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Ok, hope you guys can follow me here. I'm no math person but I need to know if this is true.

Numbers from the previous draw frequently appear in the next draw. Usually 1, sometimes 2, and once in a few months, 3.
You need 15 tickets to make sure you cover any combination of 2 of the previously drawn 6 numbers.
Let's say the 6 numbers are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

So it'll be like.

1 2 A B C D
1 3 A B C D
1 4 A B C D
1 5 A B C D
1 6 A B C D
2 3 A B C D
2 4 A B C D
2 5 A B C D
2 6 A B C D
3 4 A B C D
3 5 A B C D
3 6 A B C D
4 5 A B C D
4 6 A B C D
5 6 A B C D

So, in Lotto 649, you have about 1 in 14 million chance to win. Yes?
I'll be taking the numbers from wikipedia on Lotto 649.
So referencing from there, to get 4/6 right, it's about 1 in 1000.

Let's say every week I buy the 15 tickets, hoping 2 of the previous numbers appear. On the week that 2 of them does appear, have my chances gone from 1 in 14 million to just 1 in 1000?

This is too good to be true, or I really suck at math. Probably the latter, but enlighten me.

    Tialuvslotto's avatar - Jailin
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    Well, even if your 2 repeat digits are correct you still have to pick 4 numbers out of the remaining 43.  I calculated this as 1/43*1/42*1/41*1/40 which gives odds of 1 in 2.95M.  Substantially less than 1:13.9M, but still high.

    Any math/probability gurus out there can tell me if I'm right?

    "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

    ~Robert A. Heinlein

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      Systems : for making such wheels.


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        Tialuvslotto: I was afraid of something like that. I suck at math but if I recall, the formula for the odds isn't exactly what you wrote, something about the numbers not having to be in order or something. I got my odds of 1:1000 from wikipedia (look up 649 lotto wiki), so I'm trusting that. It also makes sense to me as it seems relatively easy to get 3 numbers (I got it 5 times in the span of a month), so 4 shouldn't be in the millions. Well, we'll wait for the math gurus.


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          SergeM: Sorry, but I don't really get the relevance or what I'm really supposed to do with the wheel generators there.

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            Tialuvslotto: I was afraid of something like that. I suck at math but if I recall, the formula for the odds isn't exactly what you wrote, something about the numbers not having to be in order or something. I got my odds of 1:1000 from wikipedia (look up 649 lotto wiki), so I'm trusting that. It also makes sense to me as it seems relatively easy to get 3 numbers (I got it 5 times in the span of a month), so 4 shouldn't be in the millions. Well, we'll wait for the math gurus.

            You don't have to be good at math to use an odds calculator program.  The odds of matching 4 in a 6/49 game are 1:1032.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              So it's true your odds are tremendously improved by just betting on all combinations of 2 previous draw numbers? + 4 more?

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                It certainly looks like the odds are greatly improved.In Nj for cash  5 game -5/43,it pays 15bucks for match 3 ,costs 1 dollar so if i use your system to cover previous any 2 ,odds to pick the other 4 can decrease from 1-976.000 to 1-50 Eek ??

                I need some input on this one !

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                  SergeM: Sorry, but I don't really get the relevance or what I'm really supposed to do with the wheel generators there.

                  With the tail wheel generator is a link to a text with how you can use it. It is not limited to your simple key wheel. You have to keep busy with it to understand its facets. When you have such a wheel done, you can do the input in Covermaster free version. Let it show the covering. So first make your wheel, second put it in covermaster and third run the covering. Fourth substract the wins from the losses in Excel. Calculate the payout ratio. See Lotterypost for that part.

                  This answers more than the question you posted.

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                    Hello, ok first you have to put the draws in ascending order to see this
                      Sometimes sweepstakes that has the last sweepstakes, raffles there are in or out a number
                      And sometimes, 1,2,3, then we have 4 conditions of previous = 0,1,2,3 sweepstakes, numbers to the next from the last. The 64 patterns pairs / odd serves to position and for odd example of a code is
                    Eee000 = the first three positions is odd numbers = 19,15,23. And aso other pairs

                    O - O - O - O -O - O - X
                    E - O - O - O -O - O -
                    O - E - O - O -O - O -
                    O - O - E - O -O - O -
                    O - O - O - E -O - O -
                    O - O - O - O -E - O -
                    O - O - O - O -O - E -
                    E - E - O - O -O - O -
                    E - O - E - O -O - O -
                    E - O - O - E -O - O -
                    E - O - O - O -E - O -
                    E - O - O - O -O - E -
                    O - E - E - O -O - O -
                    O - E - O - E -O - O -
                    O - E - O - O -E - O -
                    O - E - O - O -O - E -
                    O - O - E - E -O - O -
                    O - O - E - O -E - O -
                    O - O - E - O -O - E -
                    O - O - O - E -E - O -
                    O - O - O - E -O - E -
                    O - O - O - O -E - E -
                    E - E - E - O -O - O -
                    E - E - O - E -O - O -
                    E - E - O - O -E - O -
                    E - E - O - O -O - E -
                    E - O - E - E -O - O -
                    E - O - E - O -E - O -
                    E - O - E - O -O - E -
                    E - O - O - E -E - O -
                    E - O - O - E -O - E -
                    E - O - O - O -E - E -
                    O - E - E - E -O - O - X
                    O - E - E - O -E - O - X
                    O - E - E - O -O - E - X
                    O - O - E - E -E - O - X
                    O - O - E - E -O - E - X
                    O - O - O - E -E - E - X
                    E - E - E - E -O - O -
                    E - E - E - O -E - O -
                    E - E - E - O -O - E -
                    E - E - O - E -E - O -
                    E - E - O - E -O - E -
                    E - E - O - O -E - E -
                    E - O - E - E -E - O -
                    E - O - E - E -O - E -
                    E - O - E - O -E - E -
                    E - O - O - E -E - E -
                    E - E - E - E -E - O -
                    E - E - E - E -O - E -
                    E - E - E - O -E - E -
                    E - E - O - E -E - E -
                    E - O - E - E -E - E -
                    O - E - E - E -E - E -
                    E - E - E - E -E - E -

                    A X at the end of the line indicates a combination you forgot. This includes the all odd numbers and a few lines with 3 even and 3 odd numbers.

                    And here is for a 6/49 lottery, the number of combinations for each of the possible ration of odd to even numbers:

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                      Hello, with 64 conditions of code in 100% objective is positional in ascending order
                        Numbers of previous draws, where there has not sweepstakes or number,
                        This pattern of 64 conditions is basic, separating the last digit, you can also make the
                        High low in out etc. (Monel)
                        So in addition to the odd and even still have bottom, inside out, mirror etc ....
                        View monel

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                        1.    02-12-22-32-42-52 sum: 162 even: 6 odd: 0 o|e: eeeeee delta: 10-10-10-10-10
                        2.    02-12-22-32-42-53 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeeeo delta: 10-10-10-10-11
                        3.    02-12-22-32-43-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeeoe delta: 10-10-10-11-9
                        4.    02-12-22-32-43-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeeoo delta: 10-10-10-11-10
                        5.    02-12-22-33-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeoee delta: 10-10-11-9-10
                        6.    02-12-22-33-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeoeo delta: 10-10-11-9-11
                        7.    02-12-22-33-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeooe delta: 10-10-11-10-9
                        8.    02-12-22-33-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeeooo delta: 10-10-11-10-10
                        9.    02-12-23-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeoeee delta: 10-11-9-10-10
                        10.  02-12-23-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeoeeo delta: 10-11-9-10-11
                        11.  02-12-23-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeoeoe delta: 10-11-9-11-9
                        12.  02-12-23-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeoeoo delta: 10-11-9-11-10
                        13.  02-12-23-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeooee delta: 10-11-10-9-10
                        14.  02-12-23-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeooeo delta: 10-11-10-9-11
                        15.  02-12-23-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeoooe delta: 10-11-10-10-9
                        16.  02-12-23-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eeoooo delta: 10-11-10-10-10
                        17.  02-13-22-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eoeeee delta: 11-9-10-10-10
                        18.  02-13-22-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeeeo delta: 11-9-10-10-11
                        19.  02-13-22-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeeoe delta: 11-9-10-11-9
                        20.  02-13-22-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeeoo delta: 11-9-10-11-10
                        21.  02-13-22-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeoee delta: 11-9-11-9-10
                        22.  02-13-22-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeoeo delta: 11-9-11-9-11
                        23.  02-13-22-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeooe delta: 11-9-11-10-9
                        24.  02-13-22-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eoeooo delta: 11-9-11-10-10
                        25.  02-13-23-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eooeee delta: 11-10-9-10-10
                        26.  02-13-23-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eooeeo delta: 11-10-9-10-11
                        27.  02-13-23-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eooeoe delta: 11-10-9-11-9
                        28.  02-13-23-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eooeoo delta: 11-10-9-11-10
                        29.  02-13-23-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoooee delta: 11-10-10-9-10
                        30.  02-13-23-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eoooeo delta: 11-10-10-9-11
                        31.  02-13-23-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eooooe delta: 11-10-10-10-9
                        32.  02-13-23-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: eooooo delta: 11-10-10-10-10
                        33.  03-12-22-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: oeeeee delta: 9-10-10-10-10
                        34.  03-12-22-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeeeo delta: 9-10-10-10-11
                        35.  03-12-22-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeeoe delta: 9-10-10-11-9
                        36.  03-12-22-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeeoo delta: 9-10-10-11-10
                        37.  03-12-22-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeoee delta: 9-10-11-9-10
                        38.  03-12-22-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeoeo delta: 9-10-11-9-11
                        39.  03-12-22-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeooe delta: 9-10-11-10-9
                        40.  03-12-22-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeeooo delta: 9-10-11-10-10
                        41.  03-12-23-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeoeee delta: 9-11-9-10-10
                        42.  03-12-23-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeoeeo delta: 9-11-9-10-11
                        43.  03-12-23-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeoeoe delta: 9-11-9-11-9
                        44.  03-12-23-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeoeoo delta: 9-11-9-11-10
                        45.  03-12-23-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeooee delta: 9-11-10-9-10
                        46.  03-12-23-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeooeo delta: 9-11-10-9-11
                        47.  03-12-23-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeoooe delta: 9-11-10-10-9
                        48.  03-12-23-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oeoooo delta: 9-11-10-10-10
                        49.  03-13-22-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: ooeeee delta: 10-9-10-10-10
                        50.  03-13-22-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeeeo delta: 10-9-10-10-11
                        51.  03-13-22-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeeoe delta: 10-9-10-11-9
                        52.  03-13-22-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeeoo delta: 10-9-10-11-10
                        53.  03-13-22-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeoee delta: 10-9-11-9-10
                        54.  03-13-22-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeoeo delta: 10-9-11-9-11
                        55.  03-13-22-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeooe delta: 10-9-11-10-9
                        56.  03-13-22-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: ooeooo delta: 10-9-11-10-10
                        57.  03-13-23-32-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oooeee delta: 10-10-9-10-10
                        58.  03-13-23-32-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oooeeo delta: 10-10-9-10-11
                        59.  03-13-23-32-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oooeoe delta: 10-10-9-11-9
                        60.  03-13-23-32-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oooeoo delta: 10-10-9-11-10
                        61.  03-13-23-33-42-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooooee delta: 10-10-10-9-10
                        62.  03-13-23-33-42-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: ooooeo delta: 10-10-10-9-11
                        63.  03-13-23-33-43-52 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oooooe delta: 10-10-10-10-9
                        64.  03-13-23-33-43-53 sum: 168 even: 0 odd: 6 o|e: oooooo delta: 10-10-10-10-10
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                          1.    02-12-22-32-42-52 sum: 162 even: 6 odd: 0 o|e: eeeeee delta: 10-10-10-10-10
                          2.    02-12-22-32-42-53 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeeeo delta: 10-10-10-10-11
                          3.    02-12-22-32-43-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeeoe delta: 10-10-10-11-9
                          4.    02-12-22-32-43-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeeoo delta: 10-10-10-11-10
                          5.    02-12-22-33-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeeoee delta: 10-10-11-9-10
                          6.    02-12-22-33-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeoeo delta: 10-10-11-9-11
                          7.    02-12-22-33-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeeooe delta: 10-10-11-10-9
                          8.    02-12-22-33-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeeooo delta: 10-10-11-10-10
                          9.    02-12-23-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eeoeee delta: 10-11-9-10-10
                          10.  02-12-23-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeoeeo delta: 10-11-9-10-11
                          11.  02-12-23-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeoeoe delta: 10-11-9-11-9
                          12.  02-12-23-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeoeoo delta: 10-11-9-11-10
                          13.  02-12-23-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eeooee delta: 10-11-10-9-10
                          14.  02-12-23-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeooeo delta: 10-11-10-9-11
                          15.  02-12-23-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eeoooe delta: 10-11-10-10-9
                          16.  02-12-23-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eeoooo delta: 10-11-10-10-10
                          17.  02-13-22-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: eoeeee delta: 11-9-10-10-10
                          18.  02-13-22-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeeeo delta: 11-9-10-10-11
                          19.  02-13-22-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeeoe delta: 11-9-10-11-9
                          20.  02-13-22-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeeoo delta: 11-9-10-11-10
                          21.  02-13-22-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eoeoee delta: 11-9-11-9-10
                          22.  02-13-22-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeoeo delta: 11-9-11-9-11
                          23.  02-13-22-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoeooe delta: 11-9-11-10-9
                          24.  02-13-22-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eoeooo delta: 11-9-11-10-10
                          25.  02-13-23-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: eooeee delta: 11-10-9-10-10
                          26.  02-13-23-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eooeeo delta: 11-10-9-10-11
                          27.  02-13-23-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eooeoe delta: 11-10-9-11-9
                          28.  02-13-23-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eooeoo delta: 11-10-9-11-10
                          29.  02-13-23-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: eoooee delta: 11-10-10-9-10
                          30.  02-13-23-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eoooeo delta: 11-10-10-9-11
                          31.  02-13-23-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: eooooe delta: 11-10-10-10-9
                          32.  02-13-23-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: eooooo delta: 11-10-10-10-10
                          33.  03-12-22-32-42-52 sum: 163 even: 5 odd: 1 o|e: oeeeee delta: 9-10-10-10-10
                          34.  03-12-22-32-42-53 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeeeo delta: 9-10-10-10-11
                          35.  03-12-22-32-43-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeeoe delta: 9-10-10-11-9
                          36.  03-12-22-32-43-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeeoo delta: 9-10-10-11-10
                          37.  03-12-22-33-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeeoee delta: 9-10-11-9-10
                          38.  03-12-22-33-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeoeo delta: 9-10-11-9-11
                          39.  03-12-22-33-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeeooe delta: 9-10-11-10-9
                          40.  03-12-22-33-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeeooo delta: 9-10-11-10-10
                          41.  03-12-23-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: oeoeee delta: 9-11-9-10-10
                          42.  03-12-23-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeoeeo delta: 9-11-9-10-11
                          43.  03-12-23-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeoeoe delta: 9-11-9-11-9
                          44.  03-12-23-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeoeoo delta: 9-11-9-11-10
                          45.  03-12-23-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oeooee delta: 9-11-10-9-10
                          46.  03-12-23-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeooeo delta: 9-11-10-9-11
                          47.  03-12-23-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oeoooe delta: 9-11-10-10-9
                          48.  03-12-23-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oeoooo delta: 9-11-10-10-10
                          49.  03-13-22-32-42-52 sum: 164 even: 4 odd: 2 o|e: ooeeee delta: 10-9-10-10-10
                          50.  03-13-22-32-42-53 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeeeo delta: 10-9-10-10-11
                          51.  03-13-22-32-43-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeeoe delta: 10-9-10-11-9
                          52.  03-13-22-32-43-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeeoo delta: 10-9-10-11-10
                          53.  03-13-22-33-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: ooeoee delta: 10-9-11-9-10
                          54.  03-13-22-33-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeoeo delta: 10-9-11-9-11
                          55.  03-13-22-33-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooeooe delta: 10-9-11-10-9
                          56.  03-13-22-33-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: ooeooo delta: 10-9-11-10-10
                          57.  03-13-23-32-42-52 sum: 165 even: 3 odd: 3 o|e: oooeee delta: 10-10-9-10-10
                          58.  03-13-23-32-42-53 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oooeeo delta: 10-10-9-10-11
                          59.  03-13-23-32-43-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: oooeoe delta: 10-10-9-11-9
                          60.  03-13-23-32-43-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oooeoo delta: 10-10-9-11-10
                          61.  03-13-23-33-42-52 sum: 166 even: 2 odd: 4 o|e: ooooee delta: 10-10-10-9-10
                          62.  03-13-23-33-42-53 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: ooooeo delta: 10-10-10-9-11
                          63.  03-13-23-33-43-52 sum: 167 even: 1 odd: 5 o|e: oooooe delta: 10-10-10-10-9
                          64.  03-13-23-33-43-53 sum: 168 even: 0 odd: 6 o|e: oooooo delta: 10-10-10-10-10
                          And here is for a 6/49 lottery, the number of combinations for each of the possible ration of odd to even numbers:

                          0 odd / 6 even: 134,596
                          1 odd / 5 even: 1,062,600
                          2 odd / 4 even: 3,187,800
                          3 odd / 3 even: 4,655,200
                          4 odd / 2 even: 3,491,400
                          5 odd / 1 even: 1,275,120
                          6 odd / 0 even: 177,100
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                            And here is for a 6/49 lottery, the number of combinations for each of the possible ration of odd to even numbers:

                            0 odd / 6 even: 134,596
                            1 odd / 5 even: 1,062,600
                            2 odd / 4 even: 3,187,800
                            3 odd / 3 even: 4,655,200
                            4 odd / 2 even: 3,491,400
                            5 odd / 1 even: 1,275,120
                            6 odd / 0 even: 177,100

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                              Posted: December 10, 2014, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                              Ok, hope you guys can follow me here. I'm no math person but I need to know if this is true.

                              Numbers from the previous draw frequently appear in the next draw. Usually 1, sometimes 2, and once in a few months, 3.
                              You need 15 tickets to make sure you cover any combination of 2 of the previously drawn 6 numbers.
                              Let's say the 6 numbers are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

                              So it'll be like.

                              1 2 A B C D
                              1 3 A B C D
                              1 4 A B C D
                              1 5 A B C D
                              1 6 A B C D
                              2 3 A B C D
                              2 4 A B C D
                              2 5 A B C D
                              2 6 A B C D
                              3 4 A B C D
                              3 5 A B C D
                              3 6 A B C D
                              4 5 A B C D
                              4 6 A B C D
                              5 6 A B C D

                              So, in Lotto 649, you have about 1 in 14 million chance to win. Yes?
                              I'll be taking the numbers from wikipedia on Lotto 649.
                              So referencing from there, to get 4/6 right, it's about 1 in 1000.

                              Let's say every week I buy the 15 tickets, hoping 2 of the previous numbers appear. On the week that 2 of them does appear, have my chances gone from 1 in 14 million to just 1 in 1000?

                              This is too good to be true, or I really suck at math. Probably the latter, but enlighten me.

                              In no way does this strategy improve your odds. More tickets give you more chances, but arbitrarily picking numbers does not. It doesn't matter what numbers you play, because there are still X ways that can lose. If you decide to play 1-2-3-4-5-6, there are still 49-6 = 43 numbers you didn't play and 13,983,815 ways to lose. Same if you decide to play 5-15-26-41-48. You're only playing 5 numbers and only covering 1 line of possibilities.

                              1 line = 1 combination. So buying 15 lines still leaves 13,983,801 ways to lose. Coming up with conditional odds given that you already matched 2 numbers is deceptive and honestly a waste of time, because it doesn't reflect the actual probability of winning, which does not change. I can buy 15 tickets and say my odds are 1 in 932,254.4 which is true! But this is equal to 1-(13983801/13983816), which is exactly the same as saying you have 13,983,801 ways to lose. So the odds may sound different depending on how you carve up the numbers, but in the end the chances don't really change....unless you buy more tickets of course.

                              Btw the probability of 2/6 numbers matching for 2 draws in a row is about 1.75%. And you're worried about the odds after that? Jester

                              If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
                              If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

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