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• dr65

  

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  Puerto Rico has their own p2 game also..straight payout $50 and $25 boxed. The Canadian game pays

  $99 for straight and $2 for a match 1st digit.

  I'll see when it launches and for a few games after that if it's something I like here in PA.

  PA has too many games already and with the constant influx of instant games every month, it's just

  a bit too much.

  I would like to see a sum it up type add on to the daily number. A few states have it, I like that.

  I wasn't a big fan of Monopoly but did get some crazy winnings on the last game in PA. I'm happy

  it's gone actually, under regular payouts, the game was dumb IMO.

  I guess we will know soon enough whether Pick 2 sinks or swims.

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• Ron5995

  

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  Pennsylvania Bulletin weekly update just posted, but no details regarding any PA lottery game. I'd forgotten about PR Pick-2. Getting a bad feeling it's going to be like that. If so, that's a huge letdown, since one can play pairs now with Daily Number and Quinto that pays exactly the same as PR Pick-2.

  OLG's Pick-2 version is far superior - and hoping that's what PA Lottery offers. If it is, they've got a winner, but if just a regular pair game, why bother. Sure some will play, though likely cannibalize sales from other numbers games. An add-on side-bet could be good, such as sum it up, one digit away, etc.
• Ron5995

  

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  The details have been released. What a letdown!

  Basically, Pick 2 like playing pairs with some variations, such as front digit and box - which players can already do now, if so determined. Same payouts as now; 50 to 1 for matching both digits. Launches on or around January 27th.

  Even more sad, though I understand the reasoning to make the games more descriptive, is all the digit numbers games are soon being renamed ... Daily Number to Pick 3, Big 4 to Pick 4, and Quinto to Pick 5. Not imaginative at all. All payouts and wager types remain the same. Still ~50% overall payout.

  Treasure Hunt 5/30 game offers around 55%-58% overall payout - did some calculations on some recent drawings, and those percentages appear correct. Mention that, since TH generates good sales - was hoping PA Lottery would raise overall payouts, at least for Pick 2, but it looks not to be.
• LottoMetro

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Ron5995 on Jan 16, 2015

  The details have been released. What a letdown!

  Basically, Pick 2 like playing pairs with some variations, such as front digit and box - which players can already do now, if so determined. Same payouts as now; 50 to 1 for matching both digits. Launches on or around January 27th.

  Even more sad, though I understand the reasoning to make the games more descriptive, is all the digit numbers games are soon being renamed ... Daily Number to Pick 3, Big 4 to Pick 4, and Quinto to Pick 5. Not imaginative at all. All payouts and wager types remain the same. Still ~50% overall payout.

  Treasure Hunt 5/30 game offers around 55%-58% overall payout - did some calculations on some recent drawings, and those percentages appear correct. Mention that, since TH generates good sales - was hoping PA Lottery would raise overall payouts, at least for Pick 2, but it looks not to be.

  The details have been released. What a letdown!

  Now Ron, did you really expect anything less? 

  

  If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
  If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

  P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
• Ron5995

  

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  Speaking of less. The cancellation of tickets will no longer be possible for any numbers game. Not a biggie.

  I don't understand the fixation on 50% overall payout for numbers games when instant tickets go upwards of 80% with 65%-75% being very common; most casinos paying out upwards of 90%.
• LottoMetro

  

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  50% has just been the standard since the beginning and, depending on legislative requirements, balances out the lottery's portfolio of higher payout instant tickets.

  The lottery also runs the risk of unknown perfect information in draw games, since players can choose their own numbers. But this is the least of their concerns.

  If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
  If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

  P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
• Crazy Wombat

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Ron5995 on Jan 16, 2015

  The details have been released. What a letdown!

  Basically, Pick 2 like playing pairs with some variations, such as front digit and box - which players can already do now, if so determined. Same payouts as now; 50 to 1 for matching both digits. Launches on or around January 27th.

  Even more sad, though I understand the reasoning to make the games more descriptive, is all the digit numbers games are soon being renamed ... Daily Number to Pick 3, Big 4 to Pick 4, and Quinto to Pick 5. Not imaginative at all. All payouts and wager types remain the same. Still ~50% overall payout.

  Treasure Hunt 5/30 game offers around 55%-58% overall payout - did some calculations on some recent drawings, and those percentages appear correct. Mention that, since TH generates good sales - was hoping PA Lottery would raise overall payouts, at least for Pick 2, but it looks not to be.

  Well if I wanted to play pairs I can do so now like I did years ago ... don't need any new two digit game.

  As you said, very disappointing ... I was all set for the Canadian type two digit game.

  Canada has good games, their 6/49 game is at $35 million for tonight ... that game gets a large jackpot very fast.

  It got hit on the 20th of Dec so it started on Dec 24th at $5 million and tonight is $35 million and I think it is all cash ... no annuity.

  Also on Christmas Eve ... instead of drawing just the "extra" one bonus number that they always draw, they had five bonus numbers ... little extra gift to the players. Each one of those bonus numbers pays a million dollars to a player with the extra number printed on the ticket.

  Wed 24-Dec-2014
  
  MAIN DRAW
  
  01 03 21 24 31 46
  
  GUARANTEED PRIZE DRAW
  
  06519898-01
  45440674-03
  45592707-04
  60378008-01
  94347531-06

  Interesting game their 6/49 ...

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• Quinto

  

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  Pick 2 will be $1. Win will be $50 for straight and $25 for boxed, cost is also $1. You can also play 1 digit for $1 and win $5. You can play $2 straight/box and a straight win will pay $75 and $25 boxed, same as playing it recpectivly for $1 each way.. DUMB!