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Posted: July 6, 2015, 10:03 am - IP Logged

So we wait tick tock tick tock

The keys are only 1 or 2 out of the 3 digits.

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    Ok tx bought ya 9 and tn bought ya 2 way to go

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      Nothing to do with the posted keys but ill share some Roots. But the question is how to reduce the 3 Key prediction. For those who do not know what roots are may go here.  https://www.lotterypost.com/charts/pick3/rootsums

      Predicted Roots for July 6, 2015
      AZ 3-8-1
         
      AR 3-6-9
         
      CA 7-3-6
         
      CO 5-9-8
         
      CT 1-5-8
         
      DE 4-6-9
         
      FL 5-2-9
         
      GA 5-7-4
         
      ID 4-5-9
         
      IL 7-0-4
         
      IN 2-6-4
         
      IA 9-7-6
         
      KS 3-9-8
         
      KY 8-2-4
         
      LA 9-3-1
         
      MD 8-9-4
         
      MI 5-9-3
         
      MN 7-3-4
         
      MO 8-2-5
         
      NE 5-4-2
         
      NJ 8-5-7
         
      NM 8-6-1
         
      NY 8-7-2
         
      NC 2-5-1
         
      OH 5-4-2
         
      PA 1-7-2
         
      SC 8-5-2
         
      TN 7-2-8
         
      TS 4-1-6
         
      TX 4-1-9
         
      VA 6-7-3
         
      DC 7-2-9
         
      WV 4-3-6
         
      WI 1-2-5
         
      WA 6-8-3
         
      OK 3-8-5

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        001, 011, 012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 166, 167, 168, 169, 177, 178, 179, 188, 189, 199

        Boxed with 1 as key. Still wins with 55 costs. Net depends of the payout and outcome.

        You need 2/3 keys right, I posted that thread a while ago. None could come up with an answer but trying, one was half way optimistic, others gave up.

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          Posted: July 6, 2015, 12:16 pm - IP Logged

          So far my keys and roots have hit for TN and TX

          Keys for TN were 2 5 9 which produces

          002 005 009 012 015 019 022 023 024 025 026 027 028 029 035 039 045 049 055 056 057 058 059 069 079 089 099 112 115 119 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 135 139 145 149 155 156 157 158 159 169 179 189 199 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 244 245 246 247 248 249 255 256 257 258 259 266 267 268 269 277 278 279 288 289 299 335 339 345 349 355 356 357 358 359 369 379 389 399 445 449 455 456 457 458 459 469 479 489 499 555 556 557 558 559 566 567 568 569 577 578 579 588 589 599 669 679 689 699 779 789 799 889 899 999

          Roots vary. Roots predicted for TN were 7 2 8

          002 007 008 011 016 017 025 026 029 034 035 038 044 047 056 079 088 089 115 116 119 124 125 128 133 134 137 146 155 169 178 179 188 223 224 227 233 236 245 259 268 269 277 278 299 335 344 349 358 359 367 368 377 389 448 449 457 458 466 467 479 488 556 557 566 569 578 668 677 799 889 899 

           

          Huge difference in the amount of combos you can get knowing your roots. Winning number for morning in TN was 722. So what would be your approach to reducing a list knowing your keys. Sometimes 1 of your 3 digits is a repeat from last draw.

           

          If combined my root and key predictions. List  gets narrowed

          002 025 026 029 035 056 079 089 115 119 124 125 128 155 169 179 223 224 227 233 236 245 259 268 269 277 278 299 335 349 358 359 389 449 457 458 479 556 557 566 569 578 799 889 899 

           

          Looking forward to see how both the keys and roots list do for following draws today. If somenoe wants to input an idea of how you would possibly narrow your picks knowing 1/2 of the predicted keys are right.

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            So far my keys and roots have hit for TN and TX

            Keys for TN were 2 5 9 which produces

            002 005 009 012 015 019 022 023 024 025 026 027 028 029 035 039 045 049 055 056 057 058 059 069 079 089 099 112 115 119 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 135 139 145 149 155 156 157 158 159 169 179 189 199 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 244 245 246 247 248 249 255 256 257 258 259 266 267 268 269 277 278 279 288 289 299 335 339 345 349 355 356 357 358 359 369 379 389 399 445 449 455 456 457 458 459 469 479 489 499 555 556 557 558 559 566 567 568 569 577 578 579 588 589 599 669 679 689 699 779 789 799 889 899 999

            Roots vary. Roots predicted for TN were 7 2 8

            002 007 008 011 016 017 025 026 029 034 035 038 044 047 056 079 088 089 115 116 119 124 125 128 133 134 137 146 155 169 178 179 188 223 224 227 233 236 245 259 268 269 277 278 299 335 344 349 358 359 367 368 377 389 448 449 457 458 466 467 479 488 556 557 566 569 578 668 677 799 889 899 

             

            Huge difference in the amount of combos you can get knowing your roots. Winning number for morning in TN was 722. So what would be your approach to reducing a list knowing your keys. Sometimes 1 of your 3 digits is a repeat from last draw.

             

            If combined my root and key predictions. List  gets narrowed

            002 025 026 029 035 056 079 089 115 119 124 125 128 155 169 179 223 224 227 233 236 245 259 268 269 277 278 299 335 349 358 359 389 449 457 458 479 556 557 566 569 578 799 889 899 

             

            Looking forward to see how both the keys and roots list do for following draws today. If somenoe wants to input an idea of how you would possibly narrow your picks knowing 1/2 of the predicted keys are right.

            The use of the word 'keys' is too broad, the type of wager will narrow the intend picks, saying my next keys are 1,2,3 does not help, there should be specification as to positions. Lets assume my next position one for the next three  draws is 2, then the format 10P will give me 100 picks for a straight hit at cost of  $300 for prize tag of $500+(doubles/triples are covered), you can further reduce the picks to just 72 with the same format with digit repeat(720 combos), note that the key digits is the filter here or you can filter further with the format 10C3 (120 combos, distinct digits) to just 12 picks(the key is the filter here). Waging box for P3 is a lost proposition by default(The payout setup is not optimal), see example below for NY.

            NY

            Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
            MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
            Mon, Jul 6, 20157-9-28-5-08-2-0-10-5-5-7
            Sun, Jul 5, 20151-9-13-9-21-1-4-38-1-2-9
            Sat, Jul 4, 20151-9-59-6-91-8-0-81-4-1-4
            Fri, Jul 3, 20151-0-60-5-92-5-5-28-7-9-7
            Thu, Jul 2, 20151-4-64-8-85-4-3-25-8-5-0
            Wed, Jul 1, 20159-7-24-1-28-3-8-86-0-9-9
            Tue, Jun 30, 20157-4-60-4-73-4-4-91-6-2-6
            Mon, Jun 29, 20152-7-87-1-16-0-9-36-5-1-4
            Sun, Jun 28, 20155-8-34-2-51-1-9-83-9-7-9
            Sat, Jun 27, 20153-7-88-1-88-8-4-30-9-1-7

             draw   next pos 1       str  hit                           time frame       

            378       2 ,4                    278                               2

            583       1,6                   146,106,195,191              4,5,6,7

            278      7,5                     746                               1

            746     5,9                      972                                  1

            972     2,6                       x 6 pending

            146    6,7                     792, 6 pending                   4

            NB>The format NPr  or NCr   with the keys  is all you need.  suggestions to locate the next digits has been discussed on many threads by different members, a clear example is by JADELottery on math forum, he uses simulation of the sum parameter(you can use any parameter, eg root sum, deviations or digits) to illustrate a concept, which is mostly interval points for certain parameters.

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              This little discussion has nothing to do with my key workout. But if i were to tell you that 0 or 1 is the first key. How will you get your second or if possible your third.

               71% of the time, a number will repeat from the last draw.

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                 71% of the time, a number will repeat from the last draw.

                 I hear this stats all the time, I hope one can 'translate' that percentile into actual winning. The draws are random and each moment is unique. If the percentile is consistent then playing 36 picks will get you a box hit 7 out of 10 draws> cost per $=360 for prize of at least $560 (ponder on this !).

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                  I'd have write a query to be sure but 71% of the time sounds a bit high. Also, its a nice figure to throw out there but in real world playing, there are dry spells. Any system based on that stat would have to account for that.

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                    I'd have write a query to be sure but 71% of the time sounds a bit high. Also, its a nice figure to throw out there but in real world playing, there are dry spells. Any system based on that stat would have to account for that.

                    Actually, you will get one or more repeats 61% of the time!  Your instincts were correct manual.  Specifically:

                    0 digits repeat:  39%

                    1 digit repeats:  43%

                    2 digits repeat: 16%

                    3 digits repeat:  3%

                    "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

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                      Let me try these keys for today. 7/9/15

                      AZ 8-1
                         
                      AR 6-7
                         
                      CA 8-6
                         
                      CO 7-3
                         
                      CT 2-1
                         
                      DE 7-9
                         
                      FL 5-0
                         
                      GA 1-3
                         
                      ID 5-3
                         
                      IL 5-7
                         
                      IN 3-2
                         
                      IA 0-2
                         
                      KS 3-2
                         
                      KY 0-1
                         
                      LA 3-2
                         
                      MD 7-9
                         
                      MI 3-0
                         
                      MN 1-6
                         
                      MO 3-7
                         
                      NE 1-0
                         
                      NJ 0-9
                         
                      NM 7-6
                         
                      NY 1-6
                         
                      NC 5-2
                         
                      OH 0-9
                         
                      PA 0-3
                         
                      SC 2-0
                         
                      TN 7-8
                         
                      TS 8-9
                         
                      TX 6-3
                         
                      VA 9-3
                         
                      DC 7-5
                         
                      WV 6-0
                         
                      WI 8-1
                         
                      WA 5-8
                         
                      OK 0-1

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                        Combine with all pairs.  Guaranteed if your key is right.

                        I Agree!

                        Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                           I hear this stats all the time, I hope one can 'translate' that percentile into actual winning. The draws are random and each moment is unique. If the percentile is consistent then playing 36 picks will get you a box hit 7 out of 10 draws> cost per $=360 for prize of at least $560 (ponder on this !).

                          Yes, I agree that all draws are each unique, but also believe they are connected to all the draws that came before and all the draws that will be drawn. So, I don't think they are random in the ways we believe. Love your work Adobe, but I don't believe you truly employ the concept of random in your work. Your use of parameters, pivot points and etcetera is brilliant, but it's fundamentally a usage of "pattern", because you're essentially using elements of past draws to get future draws.

                          May your numbers be true this day...

                          Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                            Actually, you will get one or more repeats 61% of the time!  Your instincts were correct manual.  Specifically:

                            0 digits repeat:  39%

                            1 digit repeats:  43%

                            2 digits repeat: 16%

                            3 digits repeat:  3%

                            One should have a strategy in playing the game. It's not a magical formula that will always hit, but it's a way of creatibg reliable pools of plays from which to draw.

                            There's as many ways to do this as you can imagine. Think of it like a net designed to trap plays. Here's one method:

                            Take Tia's stats above. About the same percentage of time, for singles only (ignoring interrupting doubles), you will get at least one mirror digit appearing vertically as well. Now you have all the tools for an entire strategy. Simply play singles that repeat at least one repeating digit, and one vertical mirror.

                            E.g. say you had play 018 (appearing tonight in CA). You create nine pairs from the three repeating digits (0 1 8) & the three mirrors (5 6 3). So you get: 03x 05x 06x 13x 15x 16x 38x 58x 68x. Combine with the remaining four digits (2 4 7 9) and you have 36 plays, a pool FROM WHICH you filter accordingly. Reduce to your best ten picks, play box, and you get profits if/when you win.

                            But why only the four remaining digits, you might ask? After all, 053 would repeat & play a mirror... so aren't the choices overwhelmingly large in reality? But most of the time, at least half, it does play a remaining digit. And that's the specific pool we created, from which we're drawing: you must stick to it! Patience and skill should soon pay off with small profits. You should search for better pools with better payoffs and approaches... and profits will be larger. But this is a good starter example, that doesn't necessarily rely on keys... and, unlike Adobea's claims for his own methods, this one REALLY only looks forward. Smile

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