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What is the order of balls in Megamillions before they are dropped?

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Posted: September 12, 2015, 12:52 pm - IP Logged

Preface:  I prefer cold numbers by weighting them for low draw count or time since last draw being primary considerations in my calculations.

I noticed that the Megamillions machine holds the balls in eight columns.  Ten balls in the first three columns, nine balls in the last five columns.

Are the numbers sorted like this:  (ugh, the preview shows weird column widths and I don't know how to fix that)

102030
919293948576675
818283847566574
717273746556473
616263645546372
515253544536271
414243443526170
313233342516069
212223241505968
111213140495867

Applying a simple countif with conditional format color scale (blue for cold, red for hot) results in this chart:

171711
11122111714148
131312914141114
131313101471211
1012161518111312
1214202416121312
914129811810
1713141311141211
1914151019171218
91912181019189

It seems like there is a preference for balls that drop early.

Is it the physics of the machine, and not any other kind of calculations that is of primary concern?

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    Posted: September 26, 2015, 2:07 pm - IP Logged

    Perhaps.

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      Posted: September 27, 2015, 6:35 am - IP Logged

      Why not look up some Mega Millions drawings on youtube?  They often show the balls being loaded into the machine.

      I'm not quite sure what difference it makes after they are mixed, though.

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        Posted: September 27, 2015, 9:16 am - IP Logged

        Why not look up some Mega Millions drawings on youtube?  They often show the balls being loaded into the machine.

        I'm not quite sure what difference it makes after they are mixed, though.

        I watched a few draws but the resolution wasn't there for me to see what the order was.

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            Posted: September 27, 2015, 9:55 am - IP Logged

            It looks like they are using a bucket to poor the balls into the tubes. The left side is filled up.

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              Posted: September 27, 2015, 10:08 am - IP Logged

              Preface:  I prefer cold numbers by weighting them for low draw count or time since last draw being primary considerations in my calculations.

              I noticed that the Megamillions machine holds the balls in eight columns.  Ten balls in the first three columns, nine balls in the last five columns.

              Are the numbers sorted like this:  (ugh, the preview shows weird column widths and I don't know how to fix that)

              102030
              919293948576675
              818283847566574
              717273746556473
              616263645546372
              515253544536271
              414243443526170
              313233342516069
              212223241505968
              111213140495867

              Applying a simple countif with conditional format color scale (blue for cold, red for hot) results in this chart:

              171711
              11122111714148
              131312914141114
              131313101471211
              1012161518111312
              1214202416121312
              914129811810
              1713141311141211
              1914151019171218
              91912181019189

              It seems like there is a preference for balls that drop early.

              Is it the physics of the machine, and not any other kind of calculations that is of primary concern?

              You should view every drawing and note the positions of the balls, record which ball and position was drawn.
              Example ball 1 was drawn on date X from tube 1, 2nd position from the bottom. (...)

              If I follow the thought my way, you would try to find if there is a tube or position delivering more.
              Making it more complicated, you would look if there is a relationship in drawn combinations.

              Random set up, plus random drawing, should give a random result, but the randomness combined can also have the opposite effect of mixing. This is like modifying a high quality random result by programming, and end up with a less well mixed result, that you might want to have.

              I don't play or follow MM, unless I would put it too on my website.

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                Posted: September 27, 2015, 10:34 am - IP Logged

                The balls are randomly loaded each time to prevent bias in selection.

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                  Posted: September 27, 2015, 11:21 am - IP Logged

                  Thanks for the screenshot.  Wipes that theory.  Glad to see they do this.