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Have you ever had a store clerk split the cost of an Instant?

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Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

Hey all, normally a lurker here (you all seem to have far more knowledge than I, so I can rarely contribute). Something happened to me today that has left me scratching my head.

As the subject asks: Have you ever had a store clerk split the cost (or offer to) on an instant ticket?

As of today, I have had it happen three times over the past couple years. The first time, I politely refused. The second time I did it and we each paid half the cost of the ticket. Both times, they were winning tickets, last on the roll (of course, in the latter case, we split the winnings).

Today was weird, though. As before, I was buying a $30 instant ticket. When he pulled it down, there were two left. He separated them and asked which I wanted. I couldn't tell which was the last one, so I told him to pick. After I paid for it, I decided to buy the other one, too.

Here's the weird part: he REFUSED to sell it to me, unless he and I split the cost. No lie, no exaggeration - he wasn't going to sell it. I agreed anyway, and paid half ($15). I scratched it and it turned out to be a $50 winner (yes, I verified). So, we split the winnings, $25 apiece.

I went home and scratched the first ticket (the one I bought alone), it was also a winner: $40. So, both of the last tickets were winners, and I still ended up ahead. No worries, all is good.

But the experience sat strangely with me. As I said, I have had this happen before, and each time they were winners (even if they were just breaking even). Now, I'm not trying to saying there's anything untoward going on, or some rigging or anything (maybe he just hasn't seen a winner and knew one was coming...?).

I go to the store somewhat regularly. But, as I said, he would not sell the instant to me unless I went in half. Something seems fishy about that, but I defer to the better knowledge of those here.

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    Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

    You should turn him in to the MSL.

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      Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:34 pm - IP Logged

      You should turn him in to the MSL.

      I Agree!

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        Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:41 pm - IP Logged

        I was wondering about that. (I have filed a complaint in the past for one store where I played an Easy Match draw and the clerk cashed in and gave me the reprint without ever letting me see the winning ticket. The MSL emailed me that they were going to have the clerk retrained. ::shrug::)

        I mean, obviously, I could file the complaint that he wouldn't sell the ticket unless I split it (and he did pay half). Before I made this post, I asked a friend and he had never heard of a clerk going halfsies. That's mostly the bit I am stuck on.

        In a way, I see it as a no-harm, no foul thing overall. Plus, I have had GREAT luck with instants at this place, so I'm not too keen on burning any bridges, either. I haven't had anything like this happen at this place before.

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          Posted: September 15, 2015, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

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            never  agree  to  anothers   proposition  u  always  lose

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              Chair

              Heh, I get what you're saying.

              I suppose you're right; I should send an email to the MSL and let them know what happened.

              But, the refusal guy today aside, is there a benefit to the clerk when it comes to splitting the cost (other than better odds for a higher priced ticket with a lower entry fee) that I'm not seeing?

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                SOB should be fired and if he owns the store should have his ability to sell tickets

                revoked.

                The advantage of going halvsies is that the clerks - some of them - know and keep

                track of what they sell. They anticipate a winner.

                At the risk of sounding racist, I'm NOT - the Indian store owners/workers are the worst.

                Best at what some of them do but the worst in the integrity department. They - some - 

                are shrewd. Do not EVER turn over a ticket to cash in without first scanning it yourself.

                This business of going half probably doesn't stop with you and if you are a regular there

                I'm sure he's calculated your winnings and thought about asking before. The refusal to

                sell the ticket to you is wrong...a retailer is there to sell tickets not bargain with the paying

                public...ok he paid half and got what? $25? What if next time you get a thousand...or MORE -

                winner? Would you feel good about him getting 1/2 of that?  What about taxes on such a win?

                He's a rat and needs to be reported. Don't let the bozo's at HQ's push you around, keep asking

                for a supervisor and get this guy what he deserves. He is WRONG.

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                  Posted: September 15, 2015, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

                  SOB should be fired and if he owns the store should have his ability to sell tickets

                  revoked.

                  The advantage of going halvsies is that the clerks - some of them - know and keep

                  track of what they sell. They anticipate a winner.

                  At the risk of sounding racist, I'm NOT - the Indian store owners/workers are the worst.

                  Best at what some of them do but the worst in the integrity department. They - some - 

                  are shrewd. Do not EVER turn over a ticket to cash in without first scanning it yourself.

                  This business of going half probably doesn't stop with you and if you are a regular there

                  I'm sure he's calculated your winnings and thought about asking before. The refusal to

                  sell the ticket to you is wrong...a retailer is there to sell tickets not bargain with the paying

                  public...ok he paid half and got what? $25? What if next time you get a thousand...or MORE -

                  winner? Would you feel good about him getting 1/2 of that?  What about taxes on such a win?

                  He's a rat and needs to be reported. Don't let the bozo's at HQ's push you around, keep asking

                  for a supervisor and get this guy what he deserves. He is WRONG.

                  I Agree!I Agree!I Agree!

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                    Posted: September 15, 2015, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

                    SOB should be fired and if he owns the store should have his ability to sell tickets

                    revoked.

                    The advantage of going halvsies is that the clerks - some of them - know and keep

                    track of what they sell. They anticipate a winner.

                    At the risk of sounding racist, I'm NOT - the Indian store owners/workers are the worst.

                    Best at what some of them do but the worst in the integrity department. They - some - 

                    are shrewd. Do not EVER turn over a ticket to cash in without first scanning it yourself.

                    This business of going half probably doesn't stop with you and if you are a regular there

                    I'm sure he's calculated your winnings and thought about asking before. The refusal to

                    sell the ticket to you is wrong...a retailer is there to sell tickets not bargain with the paying

                    public...ok he paid half and got what? $25? What if next time you get a thousand...or MORE -

                    winner? Would you feel good about him getting 1/2 of that?  What about taxes on such a win?

                    He's a rat and needs to be reported. Don't let the bozo's at HQ's push you around, keep asking

                    for a supervisor and get this guy what he deserves. He is WRONG.

                    You know...I hadn't thought about the taxes part. Good point...

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                      Posted: September 15, 2015, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

                      You know...I hadn't thought about the taxes part. Good point...

                      Big Smile and good move coming here! You'll get lots of advice from different posters.

                      Gl!

                       

                      EDIT - just one more thing, in no way are you in the wrong. You were pressured. I sometimes

                      get huffy and come on too strong. I just wanted you to know he is wrong....not you for

                      going along with it.

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                        You should report his ass ASAP. If you had turned around and walked out, chances are he would have tried the same thing with somebody else.
                        Bottom line, you came into his store to buy lottery tickets. The store already gets a cut of all tickets sold or cashed. As you said, he separated them and asked which one do you want? He knew something was up. He probably wanted to buy the ticket himself, and offered to split it with you in hopes you wouldn't say anything about him refusing to sell it. I wonder how many other times has he screwed other customers out of their winnings? Guaranteed you weren't the first.
                        His BS cost you half of your winnings.  I say, F him.  Report the SOB!!!

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                          Posted: September 21, 2015, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

                          I don't know about splitting a ticket or refusing to sell a ticket but I know clerks who will tell you things like the last five tickets were losers and steer you towards that ticket and hope you win and then tip them and I also know clerks who are allowed to play where they work and like to buy a ticket after someone buys a few in a row and there isn't a winner and I kind of think that was what happened to you.

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                            Hey all, normally a lurker here (you all seem to have far more knowledge than I, so I can rarely contribute). Something happened to me today that has left me scratching my head.

                            As the subject asks: Have you ever had a store clerk split the cost (or offer to) on an instant ticket?

                            As of today, I have had it happen three times over the past couple years. The first time, I politely refused. The second time I did it and we each paid half the cost of the ticket. Both times, they were winning tickets, last on the roll (of course, in the latter case, we split the winnings).

                            Today was weird, though. As before, I was buying a $30 instant ticket. When he pulled it down, there were two left. He separated them and asked which I wanted. I couldn't tell which was the last one, so I told him to pick. After I paid for it, I decided to buy the other one, too.

                            Here's the weird part: he REFUSED to sell it to me, unless he and I split the cost. No lie, no exaggeration - he wasn't going to sell it. I agreed anyway, and paid half ($15). I scratched it and it turned out to be a $50 winner (yes, I verified). So, we split the winnings, $25 apiece.

                            I went home and scratched the first ticket (the one I bought alone), it was also a winner: $40. So, both of the last tickets were winners, and I still ended up ahead. No worries, all is good.

                            But the experience sat strangely with me. As I said, I have had this happen before, and each time they were winners (even if they were just breaking even). Now, I'm not trying to saying there's anything untoward going on, or some rigging or anything (maybe he just hasn't seen a winner and knew one was coming...?).

                            I go to the store somewhat regularly. But, as I said, he would not sell the instant to me unless I went in half. Something seems fishy about that, but I defer to the better knowledge of those here.

                            I've heard similar stories in NY about clerks not wanting to sell the remaining tickets (they'd promised to sell the tickets to someone else who probably gives them a kick-back in return).

                            If any store clerk offers to split the cost of a ticket, and especially if the store clerk refuses to sell a ticket, he or she should immediately be reported to the authorities.

                            Never make a deal with that person because he or she could have made other similar deals with other ticket-buyers and the chances of the clerk getting into trouble increase with every deal made.

                            You don't want to be associated with anyone who does business in that manner.

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                              I have never had a clerk ask to split a ticket cost with me but I have seen clerks play at their own store in sheridan, oregon years ago.  Which put me at a disadvantage as a scratch-its player because they would sit their on their shift and watch tickets all day or as long as their shift was.  Then they would buy tickets when it became in their favor I saw a clerk win $5000 on a $10 holiday themed scented scratch-it around christmas time.  I will never forget it because I was going to buy the ticket because back then I would buy more scratch-its then big money jackpot games.  I talked with the manager on it he did not mind if his employees played  the lotto in his store.  Back then the clerks were like what you would call ticket hawks they would ask you if you lost on certain tickets and then scratch the next one right there at the counter.  I gave in after a couple of months of watching them do that and just came in for the fried foods they made for the deli and powerball.  The store was lucky though he sold a $200,000 winner for powerball that year so I made it my powerball buying place.  Now that I live in mcminnville which is about 20 to 25 minutes from sheridan I just buy my big jackpot games locally at circle k.  Like I said that was 10 years ago and the store is still their but the owner is someone else.  So hopefully he doesn't let the clerks play.-weshar75

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