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florida 25 doller scratch tickets is a scam

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Posted: October 14, 2015, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

My friend bought a $25 dollar scratch ticket with a 10 million dollar grand prize. He has spent over 5 grand and he ever won was $25 and never got a bag or a $500 winner. All he ever got were a couple $25 wins.

This is truely a scam and fraudulent.

He said he was going to contact 60 Minutes and have them exposed as a cheat and fraud.

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    Posted: October 14, 2015, 8:09 pm - IP Logged

    My friend bought a $25 dollar scratch ticket with a 10 million dollar grand prize. He has spent over 5 grand and he ever won was $25 and never got a bag or a $500 winner. All he ever got were a couple $25 wins.

    This is truely a scam and fraudulent.

    He said he was going to contact 60 Minutes and have them exposed as a cheat and fraud.

    Your friend sounds like a liar.

    The odds of buying 200 tickets on that game and never winning more than $25 are about 1 in 10,978,885,421,922,800,000

    Furthermore, every pack of scratch-offs has a guaranteed low-end prize structure (commonly referred as GLEPS), which means it contains at-minimum a certain prize value according to state law for that lottery's payouts and the odds of that game. Draw games do not have this luxury of lower variance, but the operators tend to structure their scratch-offs to pay out similarly to random chance in a draw game.

    If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
    If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

    2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
    P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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      Posted: October 14, 2015, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

      It is impossible to buy $5000 worth of $25 scratchoffs and only win $25.

      CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

      A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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        Posted: October 15, 2015, 8:55 am - IP Logged

        <Moved to Instant ("Scratch-Off") Games forum>

        Please post in the appropriate forum ... thank you.

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          Posted: October 15, 2015, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

          Where are the gelps posted, i can tell you I have tens of thousand of dollars worth of GRT tickets in my attic, wont 1 yes one 1,000 dollar ticket in the bunch, I have heard of this guaranteed payout structure before but never any proof via statute or rule that it exists...for now i consider it urban legand, and yes ive played enough to know.

          biggest hit 10k, Jubilee, 5K Miami Heat, 2K Emerald 8s, 1k jubilee, 1k GRT, 1k heat wave, multiple 500's

          good luck in the chase 2013 wins, maybe 4 500's

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            Posted: October 15, 2015, 9:24 pm - IP Logged

            Where are the gelps posted, i can tell you I have tens of thousand of dollars worth of GRT tickets in my attic, wont 1 yes one 1,000 dollar ticket in the bunch, I have heard of this guaranteed payout structure before but never any proof via statute or rule that it exists...for now i consider it urban legand, and yes ive played enough to know.

            They typically aren't published but you can obtain them via open records / Freedom of Information (FOIA) requests. The states all use the same, small pool of ticket vendors and they all have GLEPS. A quick google search brings up this document, this onethis one, and even a patent....all discussing or mentioning GLEPS. I know that the lottery in Texas actually makes their GLEPS available for public viewing on their website. Most lotteries aren't this candid. There isn't anything specifically secret about these documents but they outline the "maximum" number of winners per pack and number of lower prizes and this might rub players the wrong way.

            A big difference between winning a $1000 ticket out of $10000 worth, than $25 out of $5000. The odds of higher prizes are worse than those of lower prizes, which is why I am 100% sure the OP's friend is full of it.

            If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
            If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

            2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
            P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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              Posted: October 15, 2015, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

              Seems as if the OP created an account on this site just yesterday to post about his 'friends' losing streak.

              Grammatical errors aside, what the friend went through doesn't seem legit.

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                Posted: October 15, 2015, 11:23 pm - IP Logged

                Maybe his friend bought tickets in a different stores? Thats could have happened

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                  Posted: October 16, 2015, 12:07 am - IP Logged

                  Maybe his friend bought tickets in a different stores? Thats could have happened

                  The only way that it could have possibly happened is if the friend purchased four losing tickets ($100.00 worth) on a daily basis for seven weeks at different store locations resulting in possibly one of the worst losing streaks ever.

                  But who in their right mind would buy four $25.00 tickets on a daily basis for seven weeks at different store locations, losing every time except for two wins of $25.00 each in seven weeks - and still continue to purchase tickets?

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                    Posted: October 16, 2015, 12:56 am - IP Logged

                    It is not impossible, just highly improbable. On the other end of the spectrum are those that win two large prizes with only a small investment in tickets. Both can happen, but it is rare when it does...

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                      Posted: October 16, 2015, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

                      Maybe his friend bought tickets in a different stores? Thats could have happened

                      This actually doesn't make a difference other than impacting variance. The variance would be lower buying all from the same pack. But the probabilities of the game apply regardless of where the ticket is purchased. It is nearly 129 times more probable that one would hit the Powerball jackpot tomorrow night AND next Wednesday night than it would be to have the above streak. In fact, JJ would probably endorse giving away the jackpot to anyone who has such a streak. LOL

                      If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
                      If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

                      2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
                      P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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                        Posted: October 17, 2015, 10:25 am - IP Logged

                        Its very easy to go through 5000 dollars worth tickets and never get a 500 dollar winner, i have dont it here in Mandarin for the last 3 years.

                        biggest hit 10k, Jubilee, 5K Miami Heat, 2K Emerald 8s, 1k jubilee, 1k GRT, 1k heat wave, multiple 500's

                        good luck in the chase 2013 wins, maybe 4 500's

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                          Posted: October 17, 2015, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

                          Lone Ranger he isn't saying that though he is saying his friend went through 5000 dollars and only ever won 25 dollars only that is improbable. He isn't saying he hasn't hit 500 or more.

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                            Posted: October 17, 2015, 4:36 pm - IP Logged

                            copy that, i would agree with Duckman,

                            biggest hit 10k, Jubilee, 5K Miami Heat, 2K Emerald 8s, 1k jubilee, 1k GRT, 1k heat wave, multiple 500's

                            good luck in the chase 2013 wins, maybe 4 500's