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Would this qualify as random sequence of digits?

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    8,296 Digits.

    766 times 0
    854 times 1
    816 times 2
    824 times 3
    860 times 4
    858 times 5
    840 times 6
    816 times 7
    852 times 8
    810 times 9

    It appears to me to be "random" enough by "Statistical Chance (Probability)", but I would not know as I don't know anything about "Math".

    I said that, based on the counts that I posted and on my quick study of your sequence of digits on that line that you posted above, it is as perfect a "random" as we are about to get, in other words, "Si es" (It is).

    "Non-Random Fernando"

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      The 0 is a bit behind, but it passes for real. You may have a look into the sequence of digits to look for repeating sequences. Pi is on the menu for this week.

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        I play the keno lottery, in Nova Scotia, Canada. i like keno alot, I don't win very often though.

         

        Maybe, someday, i will be luckier with the lottery.

         

        Have a good day!Party

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          Take PI for instance:  it's value is irrational, goes on forever to the right of the decimal without repeating itself.

          The sequence of numbers you provided appears somewhere in the value of PI, eh?

          Does that mean it's NOT random?

          If  you go far enough into a decent pseudo-random sequence, there's a good chance your sequence will appear. 

          Long story short the sequence 1111111111111 could appear somewhere in a decent pseudo-random number generator output, or for that matter, even in an "actual", "natural" series of random numbers.

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            Posted: November 2, 2015, 12:23 pm - IP Logged

            This one!?

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              A modified version of the first one!

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                Take PI for instance:  it's value is irrational, goes on forever to the right of the decimal without repeating itself.

                The sequence of numbers you provided appears somewhere in the value of PI, eh?

                Does that mean it's NOT random?

                If  you go far enough into a decent pseudo-random sequence, there's a good chance your sequence will appear. 

                Long story short the sequence 1111111111111 could appear somewhere in a decent pseudo-random number generator output, or for that matter, even in an "actual", "natural" series of random numbers.

                "Long story short the sequence 1111111111111 could appear somewhere in a decent pseudo-random number generator output, or for that matter, even in an "actual", "natural" series of random numbers."

                It could, Yes, sometime, but maybe not very often, but I am not an expert on "Statistical Probability", I think that maybe some things are more likely to happen than others, at least to happen more often than other things.

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                  This one!?

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                  While anything is possible, maybe some things are possible more often than others things.

                  I don't have the means to properly analyze that, all that I can do is take a look at it.

                  It isn't enough to count how many of each digit there are, one should also see how the digits are laid out, that is how they follow each other and themselves, a person could try

                  to compare that sequence with for example what is seen on a pick 3 and or pick 4 game, is not that some things can't happen and or that some things can happen,

                  but that How often can they happen?

                  And the same maybe for the other post.

                  Also, I don't have the software program(s) that might be needed to analyze those sequences of digits for "Statistical Probability" or "Randomness".

                  But looking at them and also looking at sequences from pick 3 and or pick 4 games can give a person an idea of how they compare for the so called "Randomness",

                  a person might need something to compare them with, I can only compare them with what I remember seen on pick 3 games.

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                    You would find the normal distribution.

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                      "Long story short the sequence 1111111111111 could appear somewhere in a decent pseudo-random number generator output, or for that matter, even in an "actual", "natural" series of random numbers."

                      It could, Yes, sometime, but maybe not very often, but I am not an expert on "Statistical Probability", I think that maybe some things are more likely to happen than others, at least to happen more often than other things.

                      https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/294081/4328182

                      The table at the link tells you how often some things happen.

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                        The longer the flipping goes the higher the chance gets to meet a long series, if that hasn't happened right at the start. That kills all kind of systems.