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Tialuvslotto's avatar - Jailin
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Posted: December 23, 2015, 6:47 am - IP Logged

Hold your horses!

Walsh uses rest after division by 5. LP uses something like plus one and rest after division by 5. That is not the same. Besides, while posts were full of V-tracs, not clear instructions were written there. Any 12 year old kid can calculate a rest after division. It still is about what you do with it. There are plenty of ideas about this. Besides V-trac is inferior to couple followers or companions, like on my website. Maybe if  Euler was still around, all tribute would go to him, and all the others were wrong.

I agree, it is a lot of money!

Base 5 numbers and Vtracs may not "be" the same, Serge, but they perform the same. Essentially, both are boiling the 10 digit game down to a 5 digit game with 125 straight combinations and 50% double hits.

I use Base 5 as my reduction method, which I learned from Robert Walsh, but I can follow Blackapple's posts on vtracs and see the same phenomena in my Base 5 spreadsheet.

I wouldn't agree that Vtracs are inferior, either.  Generally this is the analysis method that produces the most successes for me.

"There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

~Robert A. Heinlein

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    Base 5 numbers and Vtracs may not "be" the same, Serge, but they perform the same. Essentially, both are boiling the 10 digit game down to a 5 digit game with 125 straight combinations and 50% double hits.

    I use Base 5 as my reduction method, which I learned from Robert Walsh, but I can follow Blackapple's posts on vtracs and see the same phenomena in my Base 5 spreadsheet.

    I wouldn't agree that Vtracs are inferior, either.  Generally this is the analysis method that produces the most successes for me.

    Are there twenty-seven (27) formulas to be applied in Vtrac workouts as there are  in workouts utilizing Robert Walsh's Base 5 Theory ???

    Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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      Posted: December 23, 2015, 9:26 am - IP Logged

      Are there twenty-seven (27) formulas to be applied in Vtrac workouts as there are  in workouts utilizing Robert Walsh's Base 5 Theory ???

      I guess you are referring to his workout formulas  (+1, Same, Same), (+1,Same,+1), etc, etc.?

      If I recall correctly, his book recommended 5 of the possible variations.  I don't follow that part of his theory because it produces too many combinations and doesn't hit that often.  The only part of his recommendations I follow is to play recently hit numbers, as in the compressed (Vtrac, Base 5) system they tend to hit quite often.

      "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

      ~Robert A. Heinlein

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        I guess you are referring to his workout formulas  (+1, Same, Same), (+1,Same,+1), etc, etc.?

        If I recall correctly, his book recommended 5 of the possible variations.  I don't follow that part of his theory because it produces too many combinations and doesn't hit that often.  The only part of his recommendations I follow is to play recently hit numbers, as in the compressed (Vtrac, Base 5) system they tend to hit quite often.

        Yes Exactly ! Sometime ago rumor had it that for those people who purchased his book " How To Play & Win The Pick 3 Lottery directly from him there was a contact email provided in case you had any questions about the book. Most of the questions asked were directed towards: "Which of the twenty-seven (27) formulas to use in determining your next day's play?" The word was most people were left with more questions than they got answers from the author.

        Sometimes it's extremely difficult if not practically impossible to get people to disregard the smoke and mirrors.  Instead, they seem to enjoy the ride down the proverbial Garden Path....... helpless to extricate themselves from being totally deceived by known forces in their midst who would argue that they have come here for the sole purpose of helping people.......str8ca$hhomie

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          Posted: December 23, 2015, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

          Money management and discipline.  I like to find 3-5 numbers from the systems to focus on.  I then play several bets on each to win larger amounts.  I do this on a regular basis.

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            Posted: December 26, 2015, 8:55 am - IP Logged

            Sometimed its the classic older systems that work best.

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              Posted: December 29, 2015, 6:27 pm - IP Logged

              Anyone else having the same success?

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                Posted: December 30, 2015, 5:48 pm - IP Logged

                I've become interested in this Steve Player and his systems from reading what you guys have posted and from other mentions of his systems in other topics.  I've gone to his site to purchase a system or two and find that the site's security certificate isn't valid.  Any of you that has purchased his systems run across problems like this while trying to purchase anything from him?

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                  Posted: December 30, 2015, 7:51 pm - IP Logged

                  I've become interested in this Steve Player and his systems from reading what you guys have posted and from other mentions of his systems in other topics.  I've gone to his site to purchase a system or two and find that the site's security certificate isn't valid.  Any of you that has purchased his systems run across problems like this while trying to purchase anything from him?

                  I've never had an issue.  You can also request a catolog from him which has order forms that give you the option to also pay with check or money orders.

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                    Posted: January 1, 2016, 10:46 am - IP Logged

                    Wishing everyone a successful new year.  Focus on a good system.  Dont forget to practice money management and discipline.

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                      Lets make 2016 a successful year.  Stay focused and hungry.  A good system will keep you profitable.  The trick is finding one to work in your state.  If anyone has any systems they want to trade let me know.  I have several that can help put you in the winners circle.

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                        Base 5 numbers and Vtracs may not "be" the same, Serge, but they perform the same. Essentially, both are boiling the 10 digit game down to a 5 digit game with 125 straight combinations and 50% double hits.

                        I use Base 5 as my reduction method, which I learned from Robert Walsh, but I can follow Blackapple's posts on vtracs and see the same phenomena in my Base 5 spreadsheet.

                        I wouldn't agree that Vtracs are inferior, either.  Generally this is the analysis method that produces the most successes for me.

                        V-trac basically would mean of one make two numbers. Base 5 can achieve this, some add or subtract a digit. They don't consider all cases. They can impossibly measure the strongest compositions. I don't keep busy with v-tracs but can run them in my program. And then what? What do you pick?

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                          V 1->2

                          Input: [[0, 1], [0, 1], [0, 1]].

                          Count of combinations: 8. Limit display: 200000.

                          0 0 0
                          0 0 1
                          0 1 0
                          0 1 1
                          1 0 0
                          1 0 1
                          1 1 0
                          1 1 1

                          Input: [["a", "b"], ["c", "d"], ["e", "f"]].

                          Count of combinations: 8. Limit display: 200000.

                          a c e
                          a c f
                          a d e
                          a d f
                          b c e
                          b c f
                          b d e
                          b d f

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                            V-trac basically would mean of one make two numbers. Base 5 can achieve this, some add or subtract a digit. They don't consider all cases. They can impossibly measure the strongest compositions. I don't keep busy with v-tracs but can run them in my program. And then what? What do you pick?

                            What do I pick?  Depends on my tracking.  I track sums, E/O, Hot/Cold, In/Out, Pairs, 2 and 3 digits Strings and skips.   Looking at all of that usually gives me some ideas for 4 or 5 Vtrac combos that look good.

                            The second step is expanding them into real numbers.  That is when I choose between the two digits associated with each Vtrac, or sometimes play them both.

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                              Posted: January 3, 2016, 8:12 am - IP Logged

                              Original Post by Tialuvslotto

                              What do I pick? Depends on my tracking. I track sums, E/O, Hot/Cold, In/Out, Pairs, 2 and 3 digits Strings and skips. Looking at all of that usually gives me some ideas for 4 or 5 Vtrac combos that look good.

                              The second step is expanding them into real numbers. That is when I choose between the two digits associated with each Vtrac, or sometimes play them both.

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