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bob27

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Dec 1, 2015, 11:02 pm

Hi all. I am planning to create my own pick 3 system, and once i finish making copies of my books, i want to go to every retail store ( the ones that sell lottery ) and talk to the owners, so they can sell my system, which can be next to the lottery machine. My question is : is this legal for me to sell pick 3 system in places where you can play lottery?
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Dec 1, 2015, 11:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by bob27 on Dec 1, 2015
Hi all. I am planning to create my own pick 3 system, and once i finish making copies of my books, i want to go to every retail store ( the ones that sell lottery ) and talk to the owners, so they can sell my system, which can be next to the lottery machine. My question is : is this legal for me to sell pick 3 system in places where you can play lottery?

I can't see why it would be illegal with the owners permission.
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Dec 1, 2015, 11:57 pm

Thank you for answer. I was wondering, because i have never seen lottery system like pick 3 or 4, in places where you can play lottery.
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Dec 2, 2015, 1:17 am

Just sell online....less hassle....and if you do the E version....less printing...

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Dec 2, 2015, 7:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by bob27 on Dec 1, 2015
Thank you for answer. I was wondering, because i have never seen lottery system like pick 3 or 4, in places where you can play lottery.

Some stores sell dream books and other lottery related stuff including systems, but it's easier using the Internet. You probably won't sell enough books to make a profit unless your system is a must buy at a reasonable price.
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Dec 4, 2015, 7:41 am

Lotto World Magazine found it almost impossible to get rack space and they were a professional publication. Chain stores didn't want anything to do with "gambling" and the mom and pop stores were not enough.

Register space is the most valuable location, what goes there should be impulse buy items. There are plenty of lottery items you don't see in stores. I can't imagine the hassle it would be to scout out every mom and pop store lucky enough to have a lottery terminal and the fun of selling them a dozen copies of my book for resale and then going back to see if they want to buy another dozen.

Not to mention setting the whole thing up as a business in order to legally do business. Paying for cover art, printing, etc.

So much easier to sell online. If it's a system, ebay. Used to be Clickbank, they dropped all lottery systems, kept other gambling systems, go figure. If it is a real book, Amazon print on demand or kindle it. You can also setup a website and sell hard or e-copies through PayPal.

Don't promise what you can't deliver. Deliver more then you promise.

Have to work around the question, Why sell a winning system instead of using it yourself.

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Dec 4, 2015, 11:23 am

Our local Barnes & Noble does not have any lottery books at all. Other gambling, especially poker, yeah, but nothing at all on lotteries.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Quote: Originally posted by BobP on Dec 4, 2015
Lotto World Magazine found it almost impossible to get rack space and they were a professional publication. Chain stores didn't want anything to do with "gambling" and the mom and pop stores were not enough.

Register space is the most valuable location, what goes there should be impulse buy items. There are plenty of lottery items you don't see in stores. I can't imagine the hassle it would be to scout out every mom and pop store lucky enough to have a lottery terminal and the fun of selling them a dozen copies of my book for resale and then going back to see if they want to buy another dozen.

Not to mention setting the whole thing up as a business in order to legally do business. Paying for cover art, printing, etc.

So much easier to sell online. If it's a system, ebay. Used to be Clickbank, they dropped all lottery systems, kept other gambling systems, go figure. If it is a real book, Amazon print on demand or kindle it. You can also setup a website and sell hard or e-copies through PayPal.

Don't promise what you can't deliver. Deliver more then you promise.

Have to work around the question, Why sell a winning system instead of using it yourself.

BobP

Have to work around the question, Why sell a winning system instead of using it yourself.

You hit the nail on the head Bob! One must ask themselves that very question when purchasing any winning system. And, with all the "winning systems" out there, it would seem the lotteries would have to shut down their operations because of all the payouts.

I'm feeling a $312,000,000.00 jackpot win coming my way!
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Dec 4, 2015, 5:53 pm

"Why sell a winning system instead of using it yourself."

Seems to me that inevitably leads to the question of why anybody would buy somebody else's "system".
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Dec 4, 2015, 7:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by bob27 on Dec 1, 2015
Hi all. I am planning to create my own pick 3 system, and once i finish making copies of my books, i want to go to every retail store ( the ones that sell lottery ) and talk to the owners, so they can sell my system, which can be next to the lottery machine. My question is : is this legal for me to sell pick 3 system in places where you can play lottery?

So you don't have a system yet?--you are going to create one. How many wins would you consider for it be marketable?

Good luck to you.

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We have our pick 3 system selling in about 11 or 12 stores!!!!!! We also do mail and email delivery upon receipt of payment.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Lotto-nc on Dec 5, 2015
We have our pick 3 system selling in about 11 or 12 stores!!!!!! We also do mail and email delivery upon receipt of payment.

Tell us about your Pick 3 system please. Have you won anything with it regularly, or, are you just selling it locally ?? How much does it cost ?? Do you sell it online, on your own website ?? If so, what is the name of the system, so that we can Google it ??
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Dec 5, 2015, 1:11 pm

I found a book about gambling, written by scientists, in the city library. It came with a cd-rom and a program that simulated roulette. That roulette was probably programmed to make you loose no matter what you bet. The book did not miss mathematics of roulette, blackjack and poker. They probably took the book out of the racks or somebody stole it. The last thing seems to be normal these days. Good books in the library?

Not one book about the lottery or gambling these days! All good books are mostly out.

I never heard about any system sold in a bookstore or newspaper shop. The lottery offers full system forms and key numbers forms.

Why would one write a book about roulette and not one about the lotto games? I think that the reason is that the lotto games come in different dimensions while the French roulette has just one dimension. A roulette player knows neighbours, series and groups, as that is the whole game. A good player knows how to place chips properly and respects the house rules. (...)

My comment about cards is, when you don't get the good cards, you cannot win. Try to bluff at roulette, you can't! :)
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Dec 6, 2015, 6:27 am

Quote: Originally posted by SergeM on Dec 5, 2015
I found a book about gambling, written by scientists, in the city library. It came with a cd-rom and a program that simulated roulette. That roulette was probably programmed to make you loose no matter what you bet. The book did not miss mathematics of roulette, blackjack and poker. They probably took the book out of the racks or somebody stole it. The last thing seems to be normal these days. Good books in the library?

Not one book about the lottery or gambling these days! All good books are mostly out.

I never heard about any system sold in a bookstore or newspaper shop. The lottery offers full system forms and key numbers forms.

Why would one write a book about roulette and not one about the lotto games? I think that the reason is that the lotto games come in different dimensions while the French roulette has just one dimension. A roulette player knows neighbours, series and groups, as that is the whole game. A good player knows how to place chips properly and respects the house rules. (...)

My comment about cards is, when you don't get the good cards, you cannot win. Try to bluff at roulette, you can't! :)

Try Amazon. I bought Lotto-How to Play and Win by Robert Serotic from there. It's for Pick 6 games.

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Dec 7, 2015, 10:17 am

destinycreation,

There's a link on jewzee35's profile to a website, I think what they're selling is a monthly dream book.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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