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Letter sent to 360 elected officials and investigatory agencies regarding fraud within NYS Lottery

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ozone park
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Posted: December 13, 2015, 10:39 pm - IP Logged

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To the NYS Legislative and Investigatory agencies,

 

I a filing an official complaint against the NYS Lottery division and its distribution center GTECH. For the purposes of this complaint I am going to refer to NYS Scratch off game # 596 1 million a year for life as an example but it is for all games.

NYS Lottery started game 596 in Sept of 2008. This game had 6 tops prize and 50 2nd prize winners. The end of game was called for this game for August 11, 2016, that is 8 months away (240 days approx.). The game still has 1 (ONE) top prize remaining so the retailers are allowed to sell any tickets they have left BUT there are no more tickets in the distribution center to give to the retailers anymore. BUT whatever the retailers have left they are selling, can sell and should be selling until they either sell them or the game is over, in August 11, 2016.

Last week I called out to 250 stores across Brooklyn and Staten Island to see who had tickets left. I made a list and I set out today to go buy some. I had 5000 dollars in my pocket to spend on buying tickets. After all there is still 1 top prize and 9 2nd prize winners left so I said why not. I had spoken to retailer #96802 Viraj Grocery 280 Morningstar RD 10303. I knew he had a full book that he still had and I told him I was going to come in and buy the entire book for $1500.

The owner told me that last week the agent for the area came in from the distribution center and told him “That the game was over and that any unopened books needed to be returned.” So he returned the book. I heard this from 3 different retailers today. I had heard during the summer from retailers in Huntington LI that the agents were taking back books BUT I assumed they were redistributing them to other businesses because they were unopened. So I called GTECH to ask where they redistributed the books from Staten Island.  To my horror I spoke with Doreen from GTECH at 800-678-7457 and discovered that these books are being destroyed. I was horrified.

So not only does NYS Lottery and GTECH destroy ALL opened books of scratch offs from retailers that go out of business, that file chapter 11, that sell their businesses, that change ownership, that send back open books because they do not want them or cannot sell them fast enough BUT now I find out that agents are arbitrarily going around since July taking full closed books back and destroying them also.

This is a crime, it is absurd and it is a <snip> shame. At the very least it calls into question the validity of the games. How do we know that the last remaining ticket is not in the books that are currently being taken back and destroyed, let alone they that it could have been in the open books that were destroyed all of these years. This is a horrible policy, it is uncalled for and it brings into question the validity of the game that is still being sold until August of 2016.

How dare NYS Lottery and GTECH deprive the players of these games the opportunity to play and possibility win if they are going to destroy tickets and now they are doing it at random. This needs to be investigated and it needs to be addressed and changed. It has really caused huge suspicion amongst the players that NYS lottery has deprived us, the players, of a fair chance to win.

I had suggested many times that ALL unsold scratch offs could be filtered through the Resorts Casino in ozone park Queens because they move tickets so fast that accounting and accountability would be so easy and so fast to handle without the wait to sell them off. Resorts recently sold 24 separate slots on their Lottery vending machines, in 2 weeks’ time. That is 1200 $30 tickets in 2 weeks sold out. Why do tickets have to be destroyed at all? Why are tickets being destroyed by NYS Lottery? I was told that it is because it is too complicated for them to track tickets that are returned by retailers for the many reasons stated and I say that is all lies. They can be sold in the Ozone Park casinos so fast accounting would be too easy to track.

I am demanding an investigation, I am asking for the proper committees to set up hearings on this matter and I am asking the powers that be to address this situation immediately. This is causing many people to mistrust the NYS Lottery division by their antics of destroying tickets. And their answer to me was well the ticket could be in the washed jeans that someone forgot to take out. That is not for them to decide. They are supposed to be impartial and not taking sides and yet they seem to be tipping the odds in their favor by destroying tickets and possibly have destroyed the last remaining top prize and we will never have the chance to win because they did this. And I was told that there is no way to know where the ticket is or if it was destroyed. I believe they do not want to release that information because they know what the answer will be.

This practice needs to be stopped and the NYS Lottery needs to be honest and upfront with their supporters. I am dismayed and upset that they removed books from retailers and destroyed them while lying to these retailers that the game was over. IT IS NOT OVER. They just do not have any more tickets to distribute out but the tickets that are left can be sold until August 11, 2016 but lottery is not even allowing that.

It is almost like they are trying to tip the game so the last remaining prize definitely does not get claimed and that is fraud outright fraud.

 

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COPY SENT TO:

NY Daily News

NY POST

NY Times

NY Newsday

NYS DISTRICT ATTORNEY:

               Hon. David Soares, ALBANY COUNTY

               Hon. Terrence M. Parker, ALLEGANY COUNTY

               Hon. Robert T. Johnson, BRONX COUNTY                                                                                                         Hon. Gerald F. Mollen, BROOME COUNTY

               Hon. Edward M. Sharkey,  CATTARAUGUS COUNTY

               Hon. Jon E. Budelmann, CAYUGA COUNTY

               Hon. David W. Foley, CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY

               Hon. Weeden A. Wetmore, CHEMUNG COUNTY

               Hon. Joseph A. McBride, CHENANGO COUNTY

               Hon. Andrew J. Wylie, CLINTON COUNTY

               Hon. Beth Cozzolino, COLUMBIA COUNTY

               Hon. Mark Suben, CORTLAND COUNTY

               Hon. Richard D. Northrup, Jr., DELAWARE COUNTY

               Hon. William V. Grady, DUTCHESS COUNTY

               Hon. Frank Sedita, ERIE COUNTY

               Hon. Julia A. Garcia, ESSEX COUNTY

               Hon. Derek P. Champagne,  FRANKLIN COUNTY

               Hon. Louise K. Sira, FULTON COUNTY

               Hon. Lawrence Friedman, GENESEE COUNTY

               Hon. Terry J. Wilhelm, GREENE COUNTY

               Hon. James T. Curry, HAMILTON COUNTY

               Hon. John H. Crandall, HERKIMER COUNT                                                                                                                       Hon. Cindy F. Intschert, JEFFERSON COUNTY

               Hon. Charles J. Hynes, KINGS COUNTY

               Hon. Leanne K. Moser, LEWIS COUNTY

               Hon. Thomas E. Moran, LIVINGSTON COUNTY

               Hon. William Gabor, MADISON COUNTY

               Hon. Michael C. Green, MONROE COUNTY

               Hon. James E. Conboy, MONTGOMERY COUNTY

               Hon. Kathleen M. Rice,   NASSAU COUNTY

               Hon. Robert M. Morgenthau, NEW YORK COUNTY

               Hon. Michael J. Violante, NIAGARA COUNTY

               Hon. Scott D. McNamara, ONEIDA COUNTY

               William J. Fitzpatrick, ONONDAGA COUNTY

               Hon. R. Michael Tantillo, ONTARIO COUNTY

               Hon. Francis D. Phillips, II, ORANGE COUNTY

               Hon. Joseph V. Cardone, ORLEANS COUNTY

               Hon. Donald H. Dodd, O OTSEGO COUNTY

               Hon. John M. Muehl, OTSEGO COUNTY

               Hon. Adam B. Levy, PUTNAM COUNTY

               Hon. Richard A. Brown, QUEENS COUNTY

               Hon. Rich J. McNally, Jr., RENSSELAER COUNTY

               Hon. Daniel M. Donovan, Jr., RICHMOND COUNTY

               Hon. Thomas P. Zugibe, ROCKLAND COUNTY

               Hon. Nicole M. Duvé, SAINT LAWRENCE COUNTY

               Hon. James A. Murphy III, SARATOGA COUNTY

               Hon. Robert M. Carney, SCHENECTADY COUNTY

               Hon. James Sacket, SCHOHARIE COUNTY

               Hon. Joseph G. Fazzary, SCHUYLER COUNTY

               Hon. Richard E. Swinehart, SENECA COUNTY

               Hon. John C. Tunney, STEUBEN COUNTY

               Hon. Thomas J. Spota, SUFFOLK COUNTY

               Hon. Stephen F. Lungen, SULLIVAN COUNTY

               Hon. Gerald A. Keene, TIOGA COUNTY

               Hon. Gwen Wilkinson, TOMPKINS COUNTY

               Hon. Holley Carnright, ULSTER COUNTY

               Hon. Kathleen B. Hogan, WARREN COUNTY

               Hon. Kevin Kortright, WASHINGTON COUNTY

               Hon. Richard M. Healy, WAYNE COUNTY

               Hon. Janet DiFiore, WESTCHESTER COUNTY

               Hon. Gerald L. Stout, WYOMING COUNTY

               Hon. Susan H. Lindenmuth, YATES COUNTY

NYC COUNCIL MEMBERS:

NAME ?

DISTRICT

BOROUGH

Vincent Gentile

43

Brooklyn

Vanessa L Gibson

16

Bronx

Steven Matteo

50

Staten Island

Stephen Levin

33

Brooklyn

Ruben Wills

28

Queens

Rosie Mendez

2

Manhattan

Rory Lancman

24

Queens

Robert Cornegy

36

Brooklyn

Ritchie Torres

15

Bronx

Rafael Espinal

37

Brooklyn

Peter Koo

20

Queens

Paul Vallone

19

Queens

Melissa Mark-Viverito

8

Manhattan and Bronx

Mathieu Eugene

40

Brooklyn

Mark Treyger

47

Brooklyn

Mark Levine

7

Manhattan

Maria del Carmen Arroyo

17

Bronx

Margaret Chin

1

Manhattan

Laurie Cumbo

35

Brooklyn

Karen Koslowitz

29

Queens

Jumaane D. Williams

45

Brooklyn

Julissa Ferreras

21

Queens

Joe Borreli

51

Staten Island

Jimmy Van Bramer

26

Queens

James Vacca

13

Bronx

Inez E. Dickens

9

Manhattan

Inez Barron

42

Brooklyn

I. Daneek Miller

27

Queens

Helen Rosenthal

6

Manhattan

Fernando Cabrera

14

Bronx

Eric Ulrich

32

Queens

Elizabeth Crowley

30

Queens

Donovan Richards

31

Queens

Deborah Rose

49

Staten Island

David G. Greenfield

44

Brooklyn

Darlene Mealy

41

Brooklyn

Daniel R. Garodnick

4

Manhattan

Daniel Dromm

25

Queens

Costa Constantinides

22

Queens

Corey Johnson

3

Manhattan

Chaim M. Deutsch

48

Brooklyn

Carlos Menchaca

38

Brooklyn

Brad Lander

39

Brooklyn

Ben Kallos

5

Manhattan

Barry Grodenchik

23

Queens

Antonio Reynoso

34

Brooklyn

Annabel Palma

18

Bronx

Andy King

12

Bronx

Andrew Cohen

11

Bronx

Alan Maisel

46

Brooklyn

 

NYS SENATROS:

Addabbo, Joseph P., Jr. Senatorial District 15th,

Akshar, Frederick J. II Senatorial District 52nd,

Amedore, George A., Jr. Senatorial District 46th

Avella, Tony Senatorial District 11th,

Bonacic, John J. Senatorial District 42nd

Boyle, Philip M. Senatorial District 04th

Breslin, Neil D. Senatorial District 44th

Carlucci, David Senatorial District 38th

Comrie, Leroy G., Jr. Senatorial District 14th

Croci, Thomas D. Senatorial District 03rd

DeFrancisco, John A. Senatorial District 50th

Diaz, Ruben, Sr. Senatorial District 32nd

Dilan, Martin Malave Senatorial District 18t

Espaillat, Adriano Senatorial District 31s

Farley, Hugh T. Senatorial District 49th

Felder, Simcha Senatorial District 17th,

Flanagan, John J. Senatorial District 02n

Funke, Rich Senatorial District 55t

Gallivan, Patrick M. Senatorial District 59th,

Gianaris, Michael N. Senatorial District 12th

Golden, Martin J. Senatorial District 22nd

Griffo, Joseph A. Senatorial District 47th

Hamilton, Jesse E. Senatorial District 20th,

Hannon, Kemp Senatorial District 06th

Hassell-Thompson, Ruth Senatorial District 36th

Hoylman, Brad Senatorial District 27th

Klein, Jeffrey D. Senatorial District 34th,

Kennedy, Timothy Senatorial District 63rd,

Krueger, Liz Senatorial District 28th

Lanza, Andrew J. Senatorial District 24th

Larkin, William J., Jr. Senatorial District 39th,

Latimer, George Senatorial District 37th,

LaValle, Kenneth P. Senatorial District 01st

Marcellino, Carl L. Senatorial District 05th

Little, Elizabeth O'C. Senatorial District 45th

Marchione, Kathleen Senatorial District 43rd,

Martins, Jack M. Senatorial District 07th,

Montgomery, Velmanette Senatorial District 25th,

Murphy, Terrence P. Senatorial District 40th

Nozzolio, Michael F. Senatorial District 54th

O'Mara, Thomas F. Senatorial District 58th,

Ortt, Robert G. Senatorial District 62nd

Panepinto, Marc C. Senatorial District 60th

Parker, Kevin S. Senatorial District 21s

Peralta, Jose R. Senatorial District 13th

Perkins, Bill Senatorial District 30th

Persaud, Roxanne J. Senatorial District 19th

Ranzenhofer, Michael H. Senatorial District 61s

Ritchie, Patricia A. Senatorial District 48th,

Rivera, Gustavo Senatorial District 33rd

Robach, Joseph E. Senatorial District 56th

Sanders, James, Jr. Senatorial District 10th

Savino, Diane J. Senatorial District 23rd

Serino, Susan J. Senatorial District 41st,

Serrano, Jose M. Senatorial District 29th,

Seward, James L. Senatorial District 51s

Skelos, Dean G. Senatorial District 09th

Squadron, Daniel Senatorial District 26th

Stavisky, Toby Ann Senatorial District 16th,

Stewart-Cousins, Andrea Senatorial District 35th

Valesky, David J. Senatorial District 53rd

Venditto, Michael Senatorial District 08th

Young, Catharine M. Senatorial District 57th,

 

 

 

 

NYS ASSEMBLY MEMBERS:

District

Member

Residence

109

Patricia Fahy

Albany

139

Stephen Hawley

Batavia

124

Christopher Friend

Big Flats

117

Ken Blankenbush

Black River

46

Pamela Harris

Brooklyn

56

Annette Robinson

Brooklyn (Bedford–Stuyvesant)

49

Peter Abbate

Brooklyn (Bensonhurst)

48

Dov Hikind

Brooklyn (Borough Park)

45

Steven Cymbrowitz

Brooklyn (Brighton Beach Sheepshead Bay)

52

Jo Anne Simon

Brooklyn (Brooklyn Heights Park Slope)

55

Latrice Walker

Brooklyn (Brownsville)

54

Rafael Espinal

Brooklyn (Bushwick)

58

N. Nick Perry

Brooklyn (Canarsie East Flatbush)

57

Walter T. Mosley

Brooklyn (Clinton Hill Fort Greene Prospect Heights)

43

Diana Richardson

Brooklyn (Crown Heights Prospect Lefferts Gardens)

60

Inez Barron

Brooklyn (East New York)

53

Maritza Davila

Brooklyn (East Williamsburg Bushwick)

59

Vacant

Brooklyn (Flatlands Canarsie Mill Basin)

47

William Colton

Brooklyn (Gravesend)

50

Joseph Lentol

Brooklyn (Greenpoint Williamsburg)

44

James F. Brennan

Brooklyn (Kensington)

42

Rodneyse Bichotte

Brooklyn (Midwood)

41

Helene Weinstein

Brooklyn (Midwood Sheepshead Bay)

51

Félix Ortiz

Brooklyn (Sunset Park)

141

Crystal Peoples

Buffalo

142

Mickey Kearns

Buffalo

149

Sean Ryan

Buffalo

131

Brian Kolb

Canandaigua

6

Philip Ramos

Central Islip

143

Angela Wozniak

Cheektowaga

144

Jane Corwin

Clarence

108

John T. McDonald, III

Cohoes

132

Philip Palmesano

Corning

98

Karl A. Brabenec

Deerpark

146

Raymond Walter

East Amherst

147

David DiPietro

East Aurora

17

Thomas McKevitt

East Meadow

12

Andrew Raia

East Northport

3

L. Dean Murray

East Patchogue

22

Michaelle C. Solages

Elmont

123

Donna Lupardo

Endwell

105

Kieran Lalor

Fishkill

100

Aileen Gunther

Forestburgh

19

Ed Ra

Franklin Square

13

Charles Lavine

Glen Cove

15

Michael Montesano

Glen Head

112

Jim Tedisco

Glenville

148

Joseph Giglio

Gowanda

16

Michelle Schimel

Great Neck

134

Peter Lawrence

Greece

92

Tom Abinanti

Greenburgh

122

Clifford Crouch

Guilford

18

Earlene Hooper

Hempstead

5

Al Graf

Holbrook

106

Didi Barrett

Hudson

10

Chad A. Lupinacci

Huntington Station

136

Joseph Morelle

Irondequoit

125

Barbara Lifton

Ithaca

150

Andy Goodell

Jamestown

140

Robin Schimminger

Kenmore

103

Kevin Cahill

Kingston

145

John Ceretto

Lewiston

20

Todd Kaminsky

Long Beach

110

Phil Steck

Loudonville

21

Brian F. Curran

Lynbrook

130

Robert Oaks

Macedon

65

Vacant

Manhattan

75

Richard Gottfried

Manhattan (Chelsea Hell's Kitchen)

68

Robert J. Rodriguez

Manhattan (East Harlem)

74

Brian Kavanagh

Manhattan (East Village Murray Hill)

70

Keith L. T. Wright

Manhattan (Harlem)

73

Dan Quart

Manhattan (Midtown East Upper East Side)

69

Daniel O'Donnell

Manhattan (Morningside Heights Upper West Side)

76

Rebecca Seawright

Manhattan (Roosevelt Island Upper East Side)

66

Deborah Glick

Manhattan (SoHo Greenwich Village)

67

Linda Rosenthal

Manhattan (Upper West Side)

71

Herman D. Farrell

Manhattan (Washington Heights)

72

Guillermo Linares

Manhattan (Washington Heights)

9

Joseph Saladino

Massapequa

107

Steven McLaughlin

Melrose

14

David McDonough

Merrick

104

Frank Skartados

Milton

94

Steve Katz

Mohegan Lake

89

J. Gary Pretlow

Mount Vernon

121

William Magee

Nelson

96

Kenneth Zebrowski, Jr.

New City

101

Claudia Tenney

New Hartford

2

Anthony Palumbo

New Suffolk

118

Marc Butler

Newport

127

Al Stirpe

North Syracuse

95

Sandy Galef

Ossining

115

Janet Duprey

Peru

133

Bill Nojay

Pittsford

120

William A. Barclay

Pulaski

29

Alicia Hyndman

Queens

26

Edward Braunstein

Queens (Bayside)

35

Jeffrion Aubry

Queens (Corona)

39

Francisco Moya

Queens (Corona)

34

Michael DenDekker

Queens (East Elmhurst)

27

Michael Simanowitz

Queens (Electchester)

23

Phillip Goldfeder

Queens (Far Rockaway)

31

Michele Titus

Queens (Far Rockaway)

40

Ron Kim

Queens (Flushing)

28

Andrew Hevesi

Queens (Forest Hills)

38

Michael G. Miller

Queens (Glendale)

25

Nily Rozic

Queens (Hillcrest)

24

David Weprin

Queens (Holliswood)

32

Vivian Cook

Queens (Jamaica)

36

Aravella Simotas

Queens (Long Island City)

30

Margaret Markey

Queens (Maspeth)

33

Barbara Clark

Queens (Queens Village)

37

Catherine Nolan

Queens (Ridgewood)

114

Dan Stec

Queensbury

137

David Gantt

Rochester

138

Harry Bronson

Rochester

111

Angelo Santabarbara

Rotterdam

91

Steven Otis

Rye

113

Carrie Woerner

Saratoga Springs

7

Andrew Garbarino

Sayville

88

Amy Paulin

Scarsdale

102

Peter Lopez

Schoharie

4

Steven Englebright

Setauket

8

Michael J. Fitzpatrick

Smithtown

1

Fred Thiele

Southampton East Hampton

126

Gary Finch

Springport

62

Joseph Borelli

Staten Island (Annadale)

63

Michael Cusick

Staten Island (Lighthouse Hill)

64

Nicole Malliotakis

Staten Island (Rosebank)

61

Matthew Titone

Staten Island (West Brighton)

97

Ellen Jaffee

Suffern

128

Pamela Hunter

Syracuse

129

William Magnarelli

Syracuse

82

Michael Benedetto

The Bronx (Baychester City Island)

78

Jose Rivera

The Bronx (Bedford Park Fordham)

77

Latoya Joyner

The Bronx (Highbridge Morris Heights)

84

Carmen E. Arroyo

The Bronx (Hunts Point Mott Haven)

86

Victor M. Pichardo

The Bronx (Morris Heights University Heights)

85

Marcos Crespo

The Bronx (Morrisania Soundview)

79

Michael Blake

The Bronx (Morrisania Tremont)

80

Mark Gjonaj

The Bronx (Olinville Pelham Parkway)

87

Luis R. Sepúlveda

The Bronx (Parkchester West Farms)

81

Jeffrey Dinowitz

The Bronx (Riverdale Woodlawn)

83

Carl Heastie

The Bronx (Wakefield Williamsbridge)

116

Addie Jenne Russell

Theresa

119

Anthony Brindisi

Utica

135

Mark C. Johns

Webster

11

Kimberly Jean-Pierre

Wheatley Heights[10]

93

David Buchwald

White Plains

99

James Skoufis

Woodbury

90

Shelley Mayer

Yonkers

 

NY CONGRESSTIONAL MEMBERS:

NYS SENATOR:

CHARLES “CHUCK” SCHUMER

KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND

 

nYS ATTORNEY GENERAL”

eric schneiderman

 

 

Southern district of NY US attorney’s office

Preet bharara

eastern district of ny us attorney office

western district of ny us attorney office

nys gaming commission

 

NYS racing and wagering members:

j.gary pretlow-chair

andrew garbarion

phillip goldfeder

aileen gunther

peter lawrence

margaret markey

michael miller

amgelo santabarbara

michaele solages

james tedisco

carrie woener

 

racing gaming and wagering

 

john bonacic-chair

joseph addabbo jr

phil boyle

david carlucci

   

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    NY
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    June 22, 2015
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    Posted: December 14, 2015, 6:41 am - IP Logged

    well according to my calculations there were 85 2nd prizes at the start of the game and u have 1 of them

    good luck on trying to find out the truth sam - but unopened books should only be destroyed in the event that the last top prize has been claimed

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      ozone park
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      Posted: December 14, 2015, 8:59 am - IP Logged

      I was personally contacted by an upstate assemblyman who personally wrote me that he was going to look into this matter and see if this was really happening

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        Posted: December 14, 2015, 11:54 am - IP Logged

        You've gone through a lot of trouble to bring the light of day to this fraudulent activity happening in New York

        Good Luck to you !!!

        GO TO THE MEDIA OUTLETS, if you have to !!!  [Online Media Outlets as well]

        POST about this ONLINE somewhere other than Lottery Post, and let the issue GO VIRAL !!!

        Start an Online Petition for Explanation & Accountability regarding this issue of possible Fraud.

         

        It is possible that the NY Lottery Commission  and GTECH does know where the final winning $1 million ticket is located, [i.e., which numbered ticket deck , issued to which retailer, and where] [You cannot always believe that "they don't know" just b/c they say so] [random distribution LOL Green laugh],  and they have started destroying other rolls of scratch offs to wind the game down as quickly as possible, sooner than originally planned, for some reason. Maybe there is something "defective" about this particular game. [Game # 596 - $1 Million A Year for Life] [Maybe they are having a problem similar to Illinois ]

        However, it is still unfair to NY consumers.  They are not being allowed to purchase and win any smaller prizes remaining in the destroyed rolls of tickets, and they are still spending a lot of money trying to win the remaining $1 million ticket, thinking that it is still in circulation.  If they knew it was not in circulation anymore, they presumably wouldn't continue to waste money on that particular scratch off game. [Game # 596 - $1 Million A Year For Life]

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          ozone park
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          Posted: December 14, 2015, 6:09 pm - IP Logged

          UPDATE: Today I got my second call from a NYS Senator who said he was very disturbed by my email and if it is in fact true they were going to investigate this matter. But I am also going to contact a lawyer and possibly sue to stop the removals.

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            ozone park
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            Posted: December 14, 2015, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

            Thank you that is a very good idea and I am going to take this to social media to see if I can make a difference.

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              Posted: December 14, 2015, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

              This, an other shady practices, is an issue endemic to all state lotteries. While I salute your effort rgse90, I doubt much will come of it. Lotteries, like all other multi-billion-dollar businesses, are very good at wriggling their way out of corruption.

               

              Allow me a moment to don my pretend Lottery-Rep cap and provide a fictional, if likely, response:

              Dear [Senator],

              The primary initiative of the [insert your favorite state] Lottery is Integrity. While we understand the issue you've raised in light of the letter received from [concerned citizen], you may rest assured that the explanation is far simpler than any nefarious conspiracy aimed at cheating players. In fact, the practice described is specifically directed at protecting the players of our great state.

              As the technology available to the common consumer becomes both cheaper and more sophisticated, the Lottery must be ever-increasingly vigilant in its pursuit and investigation of potential fraud. You can see from our yearly governance reports (insert some link to lengthy reports virtually hidden somewhere), the overwhelming majority of lottery fraud cases are brought against retailers or their staff. These are the people with the most access to instant games and therefore the ones that most often attempt to compromise them. Several cases over the last [x-number] of years have proven that a book coming back to us sealed in plastic does not mean it's unadulterated. (Insert list of fraud examples.) To ensure the integrity of our games we have had to become proactive in our investigation of all manners of fraud, and indeed must recall, open and inspect some of the otherwise seemingly unopened books in the wild. The compromise inherent to the necessary process of inspection requires that the inspected tickets be destroyed (insert citation to some regulation). These investigations have reduced fraud in our state by [x-percent] over the last [some-number-of-years].

              [Blah, blah, blah, blah...]

               

              The issue which really needs to be addressed here isn't the destruction of the tickets, but rather the apparent failure to remove any destroyed prizes from the prize pool, just as if they'd been claimed. Lotteries will probably cite cost here as being prohibitive on account of how many tickets they (or their contractors) destroy, but I'd say too <snip> bad. Spend the money to expose the barcodes and scan the tickets before destroying them; the little school children the lotteries tax us for can get a few hundred grand less from their few hundred million every year.

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                Posted: December 16, 2015, 10:38 am - IP Logged

                i would be so happy to get involved in this. I run a youtube channel and have about 550 subs, a lot from new york, that are disgusted with NY states lottery. I scratch about $100 worth of tickets daily and put them on the channel. the odds on these tickets are really taking a nose dive lately. as far as the $30 tickets I had 5 stores by me that had books one day and the next day each one of them told me the same story that they were taking away. I cant find one store in queens that has them. Until 2 days ago. I found a gas station that had there $30 tickets pulled but the agent did not realize there is a vending machine tucked in the back of the store which has about 19 tickets left that I'm going to be purchasing. i will be scratching them on the channel. if you need my help the help of my subs, I'm sure they are all willing to help. They are all huge scratchers and we are fed up with this new york crap. You can check out my channel. It uses the same username as here and post a comment letting me know you are from here. i arreciate your effort to uncover this scandal

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                  ozone park
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                  Posted: December 16, 2015, 2:34 pm - IP Logged

                  f your not going to buy them let me know I will buy them thank you 

                   

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                    Posted: December 16, 2015, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

                    yeah im going to purchase the rest and scratch them live in a video everynight. I already scratched 2 and one had a $40 winner and the other was a bust

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                      ozone park
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                      Posted: December 17, 2015, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

                      I have over 100 to scratch probably for x-mas anyway