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Post Iowa Lottery CEO Terry Rich Q&A Poll.

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I feel better about Random Numbers Generators?

Strongly Agree [ 1 ]  [4.76%]
Agree [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
Somewhat Agree [ 1 ]  [4.76%]
Undecided [ 4 ]  [19.05%]
Somewhat Disagree [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
Disagree [ 6 ]  [28.57%]
Strongly Disagree [ 9 ]  [42.86%]
Total Valid Votes [ 21 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 3 ]  
RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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Posted: January 12, 2016, 3:28 pm - IP Logged

Missouri went to RNG drawings years ago, I don't see a problem as in most cases the lottery has no

real motive to cheat.  The wins are consistent with the expected odds so I guess it's on the up and

up.  It's the people that we have to trust not the machines that draw the numbers.  As long as they

do everything possible to ensure the draw is fair I don't care which method is used.  A Root-kit scan

should be ran before every drawing or be part of the generating process.  I think RNG's are better in

that they seem a little more predictable than ball droppers.

RL

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they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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    Posted: January 12, 2016, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

    IMHO I think it's the terminal RNG's that should not be trusted,  QP players don't know how easy

    these machines can be tampered with.  The firmware could be changed daily and they all use

    RNG's.  I find it funny that even those who claim they would stop playing if their lottery switched

    they still buy QP's.   They trust the terminal RNG but not the drawing RNG. 

    Over a series of games we can expect certain elements to appear and in my analysis I have found

    that the draws meet the expected.  There is no way that I know of to check the QP lines that are

    sold for these qualities.

    Let me explain.  Lets say that most pick-5 number game have a certain percent of different digits

    that hit in each draw.  This is true although each matrix is a little different.  I could design a RNG

    that would produce more lines that had more or less total digits which would mean that the QP's 

    would win less often.  The lower prizes would not be affected and because most people don't buy

    enough QP's to run a analysis they would not be aware of anything.  Most JP's are won playing QP

    but that's because they make up most sales.   If the percent of sales QP vs SP are equal then one

    might conclude the game is fair.  I am not saying that the lotteries do this but it is possible and how

    would we be able to detect it.  They could release a list of all combos that were sold showing if the

    line was a QP or SP but so far I have not seen a lottery offer this data. 

    RL

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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      RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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      Posted: January 12, 2016, 4:01 pm - IP Logged

      What I mean by equal is the percent of sales.  If 80% of sales are QP tickets and 80% of wins are

      also QP's then I expect the game is fair as long as the total wins also meet the expected.

      RL

      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

      USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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        JADELottery's avatar - YingYangYong 01.PNG
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        Posted: January 13, 2016, 12:52 pm - IP Logged

        currently tipped on the disagree side with strongly disagree getting the most votes.

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