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There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.

How I track repeat pairs:

I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.

Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.

Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.

Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.

I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:

12/1       177        17                                                        6

12/2       133        13                                                        5

12/3       481        14           18           48                          3

12/4       434        34                                                        7                                         

12/5       432       23           24           34                          1

12/6       676        67                                                        0

12/7       632        23           26           36                          2

12/8       135        13           15           35                          6

12/9       855        58                                                        0

12/10   016          01           06           16                          10

12/11   672          26           27           67                          4

12/12   972          27           29           79                          1

12/13   076          06           07           67                          2

12/14   763          36           37           67                          1

12/15    969        69                                                        0

12/16    486        46           48           68                          0/13

12/17    286        26           28           68                          1

12/18    560        05           06           56                          5

12/19    546        45           46           56                          1

12/20    841        14           18           48                          4

12/21    069        06           09           69                          3

12/22    107        01           07           17                          9

12/23    897        78           79           89                          11

12/24    936        36           39           69                          3

12/25    810        01           08           18                          5

12/26    551        15                                                        0

12/27    668        68                                                        10

12/28    876        67           68           78                          1

12/29    900        09                                                        8

12/30    604        04           06           46                          9

12/31    605        05           06           56                          1

 

I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency.  Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.

Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.

I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.

Jan- 31 draws:  18 within 7   20 within 11   22 within 15             9 new,8 were doubles

Feb- 28 draws:  17 within 7   23 within 11   0 addt’l within 15      5 new,3 were doubles

Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7   23 within 11   1 more in 15             7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple

Apr- 30 draws:  16 within 7   23 within 11   3 more in 15             4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple

May-31 draws: 19 within 7   22 within 11   2 more in 15               7 new, 5 were doubles

Jun-30 draws:  17 within 7   24 within 11   4 more in 15              2 new, 1 was double

Jul-31 draws:    20 within 7   26 within 11   2 more in 15             3 new, all were doubles

Aug-31 draws:  15 within 7   20 within 11   4 more in 15             7 new, 4 were doubles

Sep-30 draws:  19 within 7   26 within 11    2 more in 15            2 new, all doubles

Oct-31 draws:   14 within 7   18 within 11   4 more in 15              9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple

Nov-30 draws:   17 within 7   20 within 11   1 more in 15             9 new, 7 were doubles

Dec-31 draws:   20 within 7   26 within 11  1 more in 15              4 new, all were doubles

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    There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.

    How I track repeat pairs:

    I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.

    Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.

    Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.

    Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.

    I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:

    12/1       177        17                                                        6

    12/2       133        13                                                        5

    12/3       481        14           18           48                          3

    12/4       434        34                                                        7                                         

    12/5       432       23           24           34                          1

    12/6       676        67                                                        0

    12/7       632        23           26           36                          2

    12/8       135        13           15           35                          6

    12/9       855        58                                                        0

    12/10   016          01           06           16                          10

    12/11   672          26           27           67                          4

    12/12   972          27           29           79                          1

    12/13   076          06           07           67                          2

    12/14   763          36           37           67                          1

    12/15    969        69                                                        0

    12/16    486        46           48           68                          0/13

    12/17    286        26           28           68                          1

    12/18    560        05           06           56                          5

    12/19    546        45           46           56                          1

    12/20    841        14           18           48                          4

    12/21    069        06           09           69                          3

    12/22    107        01           07           17                          9

    12/23    897        78           79           89                          11

    12/24    936        36           39           69                          3

    12/25    810        01           08           18                          5

    12/26    551        15                                                        0

    12/27    668        68                                                        10

    12/28    876        67           68           78                          1

    12/29    900        09                                                        8

    12/30    604        04           06           46                          9

    12/31    605        05           06           56                          1

     

    I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency.  Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.

    Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.

    I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.

    Jan- 31 draws:  18 within 7   20 within 11   22 within 15             9 new,8 were doubles

    Feb- 28 draws:  17 within 7   23 within 11   0 addt’l within 15      5 new,3 were doubles

    Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7   23 within 11   1 more in 15             7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple

    Apr- 30 draws:  16 within 7   23 within 11   3 more in 15             4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple

    May-31 draws: 19 within 7   22 within 11   2 more in 15               7 new, 5 were doubles

    Jun-30 draws:  17 within 7   24 within 11   4 more in 15              2 new, 1 was double

    Jul-31 draws:    20 within 7   26 within 11   2 more in 15             3 new, all were doubles

    Aug-31 draws:  15 within 7   20 within 11   4 more in 15             7 new, 4 were doubles

    Sep-30 draws:  19 within 7   26 within 11    2 more in 15            2 new, all doubles

    Oct-31 draws:   14 within 7   18 within 11   4 more in 15              9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple

    Nov-30 draws:   17 within 7   20 within 11   1 more in 15             9 new, 7 were doubles

    Dec-31 draws:   20 within 7   26 within 11  1 more in 15              4 new, all were doubles

    Clarification Please:  What does "18 within 7 ; 20 within 11 ; 22 within 15 ------- 9 new, 8 were doubles"  mean ??? 

    What exactly is this information telling me ???

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      There have been a few posts on repeat pairs lately. Thought I would show how I use them.

      How I track repeat pairs:

      I track by draw breaking the draw down to its three pairs by lowest digit first.

      Example: draw is 481—pairs are 14, 18, and 48. Doubles I use only the non-repeat numbers. Example: 177—17.

      Each goes in a column, with spaces between. I then use these pairs in my workout. The number you see at the far edge underlined: draws back that it appeared.

      Occasionally a draw will not be a repeat based on how I use it. I have found these are most often doubles. BTW, I have the tracking for the entire year. Consistency of new pairs outside the range varied. Some months it was as much as 9, others as few as 2.

      I will use December for an example. My track sheet looks like this:

      12/1       177        17                                                        6

      12/2       133        13                                                        5

      12/3       481        14           18           48                          3

      12/4       434        34                                                        7                                         

      12/5       432       23           24           34                          1

      12/6       676        67                                                        0

      12/7       632        23           26           36                          2

      12/8       135        13           15           35                          6

      12/9       855        58                                                        0

      12/10   016          01           06           16                          10

      12/11   672          26           27           67                          4

      12/12   972          27           29           79                          1

      12/13   076          06           07           67                          2

      12/14   763          36           37           67                          1

      12/15    969        69                                                        0

      12/16    486        46           48           68                          0/13

      12/17    286        26           28           68                          1

      12/18    560        05           06           56                          5

      12/19    546        45           46           56                          1

      12/20    841        14           18           48                          4

      12/21    069        06           09           69                          3

      12/22    107        01           07           17                          9

      12/23    897        78           79           89                          11

      12/24    936        36           39           69                          3

      12/25    810        01           08           18                          5

      12/26    551        15                                                        0

      12/27    668        68                                                        10

      12/28    876        67           68           78                          1

      12/29    900        09                                                        8

      12/30    604        04           06           46                          9

      12/31    605        05           06           56                          1

       

      I use these pairs in my work out sheet which is really just the root sums sheet from LP copy and pasted in ways to meet my needs. My work out method is based on the 434 workout by Blackapple paired with Vtracs indicated by my mirror state. I count back 11 draws and use those pairs indicated. I have used 15 and that was just too many without enough consistency.  Have used 7 and found I was missing draws. The difference between 7 draws and 11 draws for December? Within 7-20. Within 11-26. So I would have missed 6 draws by using only 7. Is there a huge difference in combos indicated? Not really. I used to track it but stopped because it wasn’t many.

      Will this work for you? I once read in a tutorial (think it was one by tntea) to know your state. Track it, back test it and see.

      I’ll throw some stats and you can see what you think. I’d give percentages but my math is not the best and some posters are brutal when there is an error.

      Jan- 31 draws:  18 within 7   20 within 11   22 within 15             9 new,8 were doubles

      Feb- 28 draws:  17 within 7   23 within 11   0 addt’l within 15      5 new,3 were doubles

      Mar- 31 draws: 20 within 7   23 within 11   1 more in 15             7 new, 3 were doubles,1 triple

      Apr- 30 draws:  16 within 7   23 within 11   3 more in 15             4 new, 2 were doubles, 1 triple

      May-31 draws: 19 within 7   22 within 11   2 more in 15               7 new, 5 were doubles

      Jun-30 draws:  17 within 7   24 within 11   4 more in 15              2 new, 1 was double

      Jul-31 draws:    20 within 7   26 within 11   2 more in 15             3 new, all were doubles

      Aug-31 draws:  15 within 7   20 within 11   4 more in 15             7 new, 4 were doubles

      Sep-30 draws:  19 within 7   26 within 11    2 more in 15            2 new, all doubles

      Oct-31 draws:   14 within 7   18 within 11   4 more in 15              9 new, 3 were doubles, 1 triple

      Nov-30 draws:   17 within 7   20 within 11   1 more in 15             9 new, 7 were doubles

      Dec-31 draws:   20 within 7   26 within 11  1 more in 15              4 new, all were doubles

      Nice work!

      How about them cowboys!

       

       

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        Clarification Please:  What does "18 within 7 ; 20 within 11 ; 22 within 15 ------- 9 new, 8 were doubles"  mean ??? 

        What exactly is this information telling me ???

        These means the number of times a pair repeated in that number of draws. For instance 18 within 7 means that in that time period 18 times the number was within 7 draws. 20 times within 11 draws, 22 within 15 draws. This shows the difference using 7 for your standard of counting back, or 11 as the standard. the 9 new means that is how many it was none of those. The pair was outside that range, ie, new to the count. as I mentioned in the post, generally these are doubles.

        Obviously using 11 or 15 as the standard instead of 7 means more combos could be indicated. Also by noting the difference over a larger time period, you can see why I use 11 draws instead of 7. More hits.

        Did that help?

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          These means the number of times a pair repeated in that number of draws. For instance 18 within 7 means that in that time period 18 times the number was within 7 draws. 20 times within 11 draws, 22 within 15 draws. This shows the difference using 7 for your standard of counting back, or 11 as the standard. the 9 new means that is how many it was none of those. The pair was outside that range, ie, new to the count. as I mentioned in the post, generally these are doubles.

          Obviously using 11 or 15 as the standard instead of 7 means more combos could be indicated. Also by noting the difference over a larger time period, you can see why I use 11 draws instead of 7. More hits.

          Did that help?

          What state is this for are using both draws together.

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            This is for Kansas. We have only one draw. Although starting Feb 7 we will have two. Be interesting to see the effect that has.

            I tried tracking for another state. I found by keeping eve and mid separate it was similar.