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...The Very First Filter Can Make or Break You

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 The First Filter in this system is  4 Key  Digits .. The base is 120 Box.  First filter Part 1.... Will Part 2 give the whole system ?

012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789

Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?

Will that First Filter Make or break Me? 

Posters Please don't Post systems here, What where doing here is trying to find what BASE and FILTER to use.

There are a very lot of smart people here at LP.  I Like to know what's there First Filter and the Base . You use to start with.

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     The First Filter in this system is  4 Key  Digits .. The base is 120 Box.  First filter Part 1.... Will Part 2 give the whole system ?

    012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789

    Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?

    Will that First Filter Make or break Me? 

    Posters Please don't Post systems here, What where doing here is trying to find what BASE and FILTER to use.

    There are a very lot of smart people here at LP.  I Like to know what's there First Filter and the Base . You use to start with.

    What 4 Key Digits are you referring to ???  Are you trying to filter a group of 120 numbers down by filtering out all numbers with 4 key digits ???  Or, are you trying to play only the numbers with 4 key digits, and filter out all the other remaining numbers ???

    Why would you choose to start with the entire 120 Pick 3 number group to begin with ?? Why not narrow the initial number group down first, then filter by Key Digits ??

    Perhaps your procedure depends on the type of Pick 3/4 strategy you are using in the first place.

    If you are using a Vtrac strategy, you would not start with a group of 120 Pick 3 numbers.  You would start with a group of 8 numbers for Pick 3 or 16 numbers for Pick 4, and then narrow the numbers down based on some filter.

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       The First Filter in this system is  4 Key  Digits .. The base is 120 Box.  First filter Part 1.... Will Part 2 give the whole system ?

      012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789

      Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?

      Will that First Filter Make or break Me? 

      Posters Please don't Post systems here, What where doing here is trying to find what BASE and FILTER to use.

      There are a very lot of smart people here at LP.  I Like to know what's there First Filter and the Base . You use to start with.

      Turn 120 combos into straight wage by assuming LEAD digits or front pairs. A lead digits will yield few  picks  ,max 36 picks  for digit 0  to 1 for digit 7, front pairs is even less.

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        What 4 Key Digits are you referring to ???  Are you trying to filter a group of 120 numbers down by filtering out all numbers with 4 key digits ???  Or, are you trying to play only the numbers with 4 key digits, and filter out all the other remaining numbers ???

        Why would you choose to start with the entire 120 Pick 3 number group to begin with ?? Why not narrow the initial number group down first, then filter by Key Digits ??

        Perhaps your procedure depends on the type of Pick 3/4 strategy you are using in the first place.

        If you are using a Vtrac strategy, you would not start with a group of 120 Pick 3 numbers.  You would start with a group of 8 numbers for Pick 3 or 16 numbers for Pick 4, and then narrow the numbers down based on some filter.

        You would do a workout ever day. To get your 4 key digits.  Yes filter the 120 numbers with the 4 keys. Yes you would only play numbers with

        those 4 keys .The Remaining numbers would be another Filter..Question would 4 keys digits be your First Filter and 120 be your base?

        No vtrac so far.

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          Turn 120 combos into straight wage by assuming LEAD digits or front pairs. A lead digits will yield few  picks  ,max 36 picks  for digit 0  to 1 for digit 7, front pairs is even less.

          Should we use on more filter before going to lead digits  (Part 2) ?

          Adobea78 Excellent Lead Digit filter..

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            Should we use on more filter before going to lead digits  (Part 2) ?

            Adobea78 Excellent Lead Digit filter..

            Pick 3 and Pick 4 has two waging options, 'Straight or Box', these two options pretty much dictates your filter.With straight bet,you have less filter irrespective of the size of N(N=10 for 1000picks). Turning your 4 digits into pairs or triads can also reduce your picks whether you opt for  N sizes 1000,720 or 120.

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               The First Filter in this system is  4 Key  Digits .. The base is 120 Box.  First filter Part 1.... Will Part 2 give the whole system ?

              012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 056, 057, 058, 059, 067, 068, 069, 078, 079, 089, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489, 567, 568, 569, 578, 579, 589, 678, 679, 689, 789

              Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?

              Will that First Filter Make or break Me? 

              Posters Please don't Post systems here, What where doing here is trying to find what BASE and FILTER to use.

              There are a very lot of smart people here at LP.  I Like to know what's there First Filter and the Base . You use to start with.

              Seems to me that hose are the 120 any-order numbers, the only filtration:

              You are not using the straights

              You are that using neither doubles nor triples.

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              First question:

              "Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?"

              Yes, most of the time and for most people it is!

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              Second question:

              "Will that First Filter Make or break Me?"

              It al depends how good you are at filtration, for many people it will break them.

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              By the way, there is no one filter to use, if you use filters, you would need to use at least several of them and unless you are good at filtration, the stuff as you yourself said will break you.

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              By the way, yes, using 4 key digits is a good start, but it is not enough by itself, more filters or whatever else are needed.

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                Seems to me that hose are the 120 any-order numbers, the only filtration:

                You are not using the straights

                You are that using neither doubles nor triples.

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                First question:

                "Is that the right First Filter, and the Right Base to start with ?"

                Yes, most of the time and for most people it is!

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                Second question:

                "Will that First Filter Make or break Me?"

                It al depends how good you are at filtration, for many people it will break them.

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                By the way, there is no one filter to use, if you use filters, you would need to use at least several of them and unless you are good at filtration, the stuff as you yourself said will break you.

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                By the way, yes, using 4 key digits is a good start, but it is not enough by itself, more filters or whatever else are needed.

                For example if your 4 key-digits were 1, 2, 4 and 7 you would have 100 any-order pick 3 numbers and that is not enough filtration:

                012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 034, 037, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 057, 067, 078, 079, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 156, 157, 158, 159, 167, 168, 169, 178, 179, 189, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 256, 257, 258, 259, 267, 268, 269, 278, 279, 289, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 357, 367, 378, 379, 456, 457, 458, 459, 467, 468, 469, 478, 479, 489, 567, 578, 579, 678, 679, 789

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                  What 4 Key Digits are you referring to ???  Are you trying to filter a group of 120 numbers down by filtering out all numbers with 4 key digits ???  Or, are you trying to play only the numbers with 4 key digits, and filter out all the other remaining numbers ???

                  Why would you choose to start with the entire 120 Pick 3 number group to begin with ?? Why not narrow the initial number group down first, then filter by Key Digits ??

                  Perhaps your procedure depends on the type of Pick 3/4 strategy you are using in the first place.

                  If you are using a Vtrac strategy, you would not start with a group of 120 Pick 3 numbers.  You would start with a group of 8 numbers for Pick 3 or 16 numbers for Pick 4, and then narrow the numbers down based on some filter.

                  "What 4 Key Digits are you referring to ???  Are you trying to filter a group of 120 numbers down by filtering out all numbers with 4 key digits ???  Or, are you trying to play only the numbers with 4 key digits, and filter out all the other remaining numbers ???"

                  I think that it is the very same thing, you still would have about 100 any-order number left, which is not enough filtration, so yes, you are very right, more filtration is needed.

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                    Turn 120 combos into straight wage by assuming LEAD digits or front pairs. A lead digits will yield few  picks  ,max 36 picks  for digit 0  to 1 for digit 7, front pairs is even less.

                    If you start with all 120 box singles and have only 1 key-digit then you would have left 36 boxed singles.

                    For example the # 3 key-digit gives:

                    013, 023, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 123, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 356, 357, 358, 359, 367, 368, 369, 378, 379, 389

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                    Using pairs as filters does also help, but which-ever filters you do use they better be right otherwise the prediction will fail.

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                      You would do a workout ever day. To get your 4 key digits.  Yes filter the 120 numbers with the 4 keys. Yes you would only play numbers with

                      those 4 keys .The Remaining numbers would be another Filter..Question would 4 keys digits be your First Filter and 120 be your base?

                      No vtrac so far.

                      It probably doesn't matter much which filter-pattern is 1st and which is 2nd and which it 3rd and which is 4th and which is 5th, Etc, what does matter is that you need to know what to filter and how, otherwise your prediction will fail.

                      You need to use as fewer filter-patterns as possible to reduce the pool of numbers just enough, too much filtration might filter out the winning number.

                      Filtering is a very delicate thing, one mistake and the prediction fails.

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                        Pick 3 and Pick 4 has two waging options, 'Straight or Box', these two options pretty much dictates your filter.With straight bet,you have less filter irrespective of the size of N(N=10 for 1000picks). Turning your 4 digits into pairs or triads can also reduce your picks whether you opt for  N sizes 1000,720 or 120.

                        Many or most box filters can also be used for straight numbers filtration.

                        But maybe most straight filters are not good for use on boxed numbers.

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                          As you all know there are many filters that can be used, which are best and which are worse, it all depends on what is seen on the past history of a given particular game, the past history of the winning numbers have a tale to tell.

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                          By the way, any of the many filter patterns can break you, they can only make you if you get ALL of them right.

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                            A "pre-filter" might be to try and reduce the number of key digits that you are using.  Reducing 4 keys to 2 would reduce the number of combinations to 64. 

                            Post-filters that I would use would be the higher-probability filters first:  Last sum, 95%, Last root sum or Last LDS 90%, Last Combination Width 85-90%, All High/Low or All E/O 75%.

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                              A "pre-filter" might be to try and reduce the number of key digits that you are using.  Reducing 4 keys to 2 would reduce the number of combinations to 64. 

                              Post-filters that I would use would be the higher-probability filters first:  Last sum, 95%, Last root sum or Last LDS 90%, Last Combination Width 85-90%, All High/Low or All E/O 75%.

                              Yes, Tia, very good!

                              All that you said, only that, How many people are so good that they can get at least one of the two key digits right?

                              Because if they don't get at least one of the two digits right the prediction by filtration will fail, as for the other filters that you mentioned, yes as you said they might be higher probability filters, maybe not so much the All High, All Low, All Even and All Odd, but yes even those 4 are better than some others, but even higher probability might be the, Last Sum, Last Root, Last Low To High Digits Width and the Last Digit Of The Sum (LDS).

                              Of course, the more pattern-filters used, the more that the chance of filter(s) failure compounds, but regardless, a person needs to use several filters, otherwise the pool of numbers can't be reduced enough, so we need to take the chance, on paper at least, 'till the person is good enough to play with money.