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The number 17 in Italy

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Posted: March 7, 2016, 1:35 am - IP Logged
In Italian culture, the number 17 is considered unlucky. When viewed as the Roman numeral, XVII, it is then changed anagramtically to VIXI, which in the Latin language it translates to "I have lived", the perfect tense implying "My life is over." (c.f. "Vixerunt", Cicero's famous announcement of an execution.) In Italy, it is not uncommon to notice that buildings do not have 17th floor, hotels do not have a room 17. The Italian airline carrier, Alitalia, does not have a seat 17. Renault sold its "R17" model in Italy as "R177."

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    In Italian culture, the number 17 is considered unlucky. When viewed as the Roman numeral, XVII, it is then changed anagramtically to VIXI, which in the Latin language it translates to "I have lived", the perfect tense implying "My life is over." (c.f. "Vixerunt", Cicero's famous announcement of an execution.) In Italy, it is not uncommon to notice that buildings do not have 17th floor, hotels do not have a room 17. The Italian airline carrier, Alitalia, does not have a seat 17. Renault sold its "R17" model in Italy as "R177."

    Many thanks again , Coin, for the intriguing Italian Fortunata historical perspective on the #17

    I thought you as a former croupier, might find it quite fascinating where our Sean Connery crushed the #17 @ the Casino de la Vallen Casino in Saint Vincent, 1963 by wagering & Winning an impressive 20 million lire on the numbers 17 three spins  consecutively - and he wasn't even in the character as 007 !!! Wink

    The 17 because of it's central layout position, has always been one of the fav by players world wide

     

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    Never Say Never.....

    You know the statistical probability......

     

    Fortes Fortuna Juvat

    Where the wheel of fortune never stops >>>>> 

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      Edessaknight,

      Good observation.

      I'm sure you know that in roulette 17 and its harmonics appear very often in payouts.

      17 also seems to hit very often in lottery draw games too.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        HI Coin,

        Those are good experienced calls & frequencies Emoji that work with our #17

        Here is something else that escapes conventional mathematics is how often the enigmatic #17 will spawn the #35 in roulette & keno, although not each & every time, however usually above the random expectation. Don't know about lottery & bingo?

         

        As Always Lep

        Fortes Fortuna Juvat

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          Posted: March 10, 2016, 12:02 am - IP Logged

          Good insight!

          Funny how some numbers 'run in pairs'.

          All the 'gambling gurus' warn crap layers not to bet the Horn bet (2,3,11,12 for those who don't know) because they are all high % props...........but it's uncanny how often those numbers show one after another. Parlaying a horn bet can bring some sweet payoffs.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: March 12, 2016, 5:43 pm - IP Logged

            LET IT RIDE......Coin, et al

            Continuing.....

            Connery  placed 5 bets on the number 17. The first two he lost, but he persisted. The third time he hit, his number came up winning him 31:1 odds. Not content to settle with that, he placed all his winnings back on the number 17. Literally against all odds, the 007 Bond movie star wins again. Instead of walking away, Connery daringly tempts fate and puts all his money on the 17 for a fifth and final time. The number comes up - did he know something???

            Answering my own question, apparently the probability of hitting three single number bets in a row is 0.0000197% or 50,000:1. 

            CRAPS EXPERT:

            "it's uncanny how often those numbers show one after another. Parlaying a horn bet can bring some sweet payoffs." ~CT

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            There is phenomena in games unexplainable in conventional linear math. If anyone checked out the results of the previous #17/35 association, they will find that they profitably occur above the negative odds.

            And this is not just a single oddity and can be proved with more continuing predictable number connections, which I will happily furnish if there is an earnestly expressed interest. Just graph a list of past performance numbers from roulette or keno & SEE Emoji

            Beyond the luck of the Irish, mind you Lep

            Good Weekend Wishes All

             

            Fortes Fortuna Juvat

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              Posted: March 13, 2016, 6:06 am - IP Logged

              HI Coin,

              Those are good experienced calls & frequencies Emoji that work with our #17

              Here is something else that escapes conventional mathematics is how often the enigmatic #17 will spawn the #35 in roulette & keno, although not each & every time, however usually above the random expectation. Don't know about lottery & bingo?

               

              As Always Lep

              Fortes Fortuna Juvat

              Eddessa_Knight with Light Sun Smiley

              more #s that sometimes play with  your  '17'

              13    33   35

              35    33   13   12 

              32  9  10  5   21

              36  16  7  11  12  22  1   32   19  31   6   15  222  3  35  513   21  2

              "If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."  Nikola Tesla 

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                Greetings our MystiQue & Coin et al-

                Your participation & quality work & contributions are always most welcome.

                I am going to L@@K @ how well these numbers perform in Real Time gaming applications; notice how often #35 appears.

                Additionally, as you showed earnest interest,  for your serious consideration, these following associated vibrational numbers Emoji with # the 17:

                #5 -17- 29- 41- 53-65 & 77 plus one: the aforementioned #35

                These invisible numbers are in real resonance, not just theory and you can bet on them Wink rather you can back test without risk - does not hit each & every time, mind you, but they will actually occur over the odds.

                Graph any numbers from past performance plays & see Emoji

                Let us know what you uncover.....

                 

                Best Wishes for Continued Success >>>

                Fortes Fortuna Juvat 

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                  Greetings our MystiQue & Coin et al-

                  Your participation & quality work & contributions are always most welcome.

                  I am going to L@@K @ how well these numbers perform in Real Time gaming applications; notice how often #35 appears.

                  Additionally, as you showed earnest interest,  for your serious consideration, these following associated vibrational numbers Emoji with # the 17:

                  #5 -17- 29- 41- 53-65 & 77 plus one: the aforementioned #35

                  These invisible numbers are in real resonance, not just theory and you can bet on them Wink rather you can back test without risk - does not hit each & every time, mind you, but they will actually occur over the odds.

                  Graph any numbers from past performance plays & see Emoji

                  Let us know what you uncover.....

                   

                  Best Wishes for Continued Success >>>

                  Fortes Fortuna Juvat 

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                    Just seeing this  177/117 you have to play both part's of doubles... thanks for sharing..

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                      In Italian culture, the number 17 is considered unlucky. When viewed as the Roman numeral, XVII, it is then changed anagramtically to VIXI, which in the Latin language it translates to "I have lived", the perfect tense implying "My life is over." (c.f. "Vixerunt", Cicero's famous announcement of an execution.) In Italy, it is not uncommon to notice that buildings do not have 17th floor, hotels do not have a room 17. The Italian airline carrier, Alitalia, does not have a seat 17. Renault sold its "R17" model in Italy as "R177."

                      See Ya! Thanks for the cool info.

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