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How To Win At Roulette

I can tell you how to win at roulette, but do you have the patience? You'll have to sit patiently for thousands of spins before you start to make money. You see, it's all about "charting" the roulette wheel.

How To Win At Roulette? Biased Wheels

Years ago, when I ran a roulette table, one of my favorite players and I would talk philosophy all night while he patiently made his simple bets. I knew he was winning, but not how much. After I quit the job, I met him for coffee and discovered that he had made over $90,000 in sixteen months of part-time play. That made it more interesting.

On a roulette wheel there are 38 "pockets" (American wheel - 1 through 36, plus 0 and 00). When the ball falls in a particular pocket, players are paid according to the number of that pocket. We'll ignore all the various bets and concentrate just on the "straight up" bets, which are bets on one number. You get paid 35 to 1 if your number comes up.

You get $35 for each dollar bet, plus you keep the bet. You can see that the house has an edge (5.6 percent, to be precise), but what if certain numbers came up more often than they should - more often than 1-in-38 spins?

Suppose, for example, number 5 is coming up an average of once every 29 spins. If you bet ten dollars on it every time, you would lose 28 times, or $280, every 29 spins, but win once which would pay you $350. In other words, in the long run, you would be making $70 for each 29 spins. ($350 minus $280) When there weren't many customers, I sometimes did 60 or more spins per hour, so you can see that this could be very lucrative.

Why would that number or any other come up more often? The short answer: Who Cares! The longer explanation has to do with the nature of the wheels. The pockets could be manufactured imperfectly, with one or more slightly larger than the others, therefore catching the ball more often. One or more of the dividers between the pockets could be loose, absorbing the force of the ball instead of bouncing it away, so the ball might drop into that pocket more often.

There are other reasons, including more temporary ones, like a drop of sticky pop in one of the pockets, or a build-up of dust. The important point isn't what causes a "biased" wheel, though. The important point is that biased wheels exist, and can be taken advantage of.

Why would a Casino let this happen? Roulette wheels are expensive, and so they are not often replaced, unlike cards and dice, which Casinos replace daily. This means that if there is a bias, it sometimes remains for months. I know for a fact that managers where I worked were aware of the problem, but as long as the table made money overall, they were too lazy to worry about one guy making money on it.

Charting a Roulette Wheel

John (not his real name) came in initially with two friends. They took turns "charting" the wheel, which is nothing more than writing down the number that comes up on every spin. They did this for weeks on both roulette wheels in the Casino. It is an incredibly boring, but crucial part of the process, often amounting to nothing, since there may not be a bias.

As it turned out, the number "0" was coming in 1-in-28 spins. Only John had the patience, though, to continue sitting there night after night, placing one bet on one number, over and over. Within a couple weeks, his friends quit. They didn't have the patience required, and probably also didn't like the fact that even with the odds in their favor, they had nights when they lost as much as $700.

Night after night John sat there discussing politics and philosophy with me, placing one bet on 0 for each spin of the wheel. He was making $50 to $100 per hour depending on the number of spins per hour, and assuming the bias was consistent in the long run. After more than a year, and $90,000 in profits for John, the casino got a new wheel, and (I assume) John moved on to new wheels. That's how to win at roulette.

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      do the same <snip> with pick 3.  Find a group of 100 numbers that hit at least once in 9 draws. Any hits before 9 draws is profit.  Hit on 9th draw.  U break even.   Any hit after 9 is in the negative

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        How To Win At Roulette

        I can tell you how to win at roulette, but do you have the patience? You'll have to sit patiently for thousands of spins before you start to make money. You see, it's all about "charting" the roulette wheel.

        How To Win At Roulette? Biased Wheels

        Years ago, when I ran a roulette table, one of my favorite players and I would talk philosophy all night while he patiently made his simple bets. I knew he was winning, but not how much. After I quit the job, I met him for coffee and discovered that he had made over $90,000 in sixteen months of part-time play. That made it more interesting.

        On a roulette wheel there are 38 "pockets" (American wheel - 1 through 36, plus 0 and 00). When the ball falls in a particular pocket, players are paid according to the number of that pocket. We'll ignore all the various bets and concentrate just on the "straight up" bets, which are bets on one number. You get paid 35 to 1 if your number comes up.

        You get $35 for each dollar bet, plus you keep the bet. You can see that the house has an edge (5.6 percent, to be precise), but what if certain numbers came up more often than they should - more often than 1-in-38 spins?

        Suppose, for example, number 5 is coming up an average of once every 29 spins. If you bet ten dollars on it every time, you would lose 28 times, or $280, every 29 spins, but win once which would pay you $350. In other words, in the long run, you would be making $70 for each 29 spins. ($350 minus $280) When there weren't many customers, I sometimes did 60 or more spins per hour, so you can see that this could be very lucrative.

        Why would that number or any other come up more often? The short answer: Who Cares! The longer explanation has to do with the nature of the wheels. The pockets could be manufactured imperfectly, with one or more slightly larger than the others, therefore catching the ball more often. One or more of the dividers between the pockets could be loose, absorbing the force of the ball instead of bouncing it away, so the ball might drop into that pocket more often.

        There are other reasons, including more temporary ones, like a drop of sticky pop in one of the pockets, or a build-up of dust. The important point isn't what causes a "biased" wheel, though. The important point is that biased wheels exist, and can be taken advantage of.

        Why would a Casino let this happen? Roulette wheels are expensive, and so they are not often replaced, unlike cards and dice, which Casinos replace daily. This means that if there is a bias, it sometimes remains for months. I know for a fact that managers where I worked were aware of the problem, but as long as the table made money overall, they were too lazy to worry about one guy making money on it.

        Charting a Roulette Wheel

        John (not his real name) came in initially with two friends. They took turns "charting" the wheel, which is nothing more than writing down the number that comes up on every spin. They did this for weeks on both roulette wheels in the Casino. It is an incredibly boring, but crucial part of the process, often amounting to nothing, since there may not be a bias.

        As it turned out, the number "0" was coming in 1-in-28 spins. Only John had the patience, though, to continue sitting there night after night, placing one bet on one number, over and over. Within a couple weeks, his friends quit. They didn't have the patience required, and probably also didn't like the fact that even with the odds in their favor, they had nights when they lost as much as $700.

        Night after night John sat there discussing politics and philosophy with me, placing one bet on 0 for each spin of the wheel. He was making $50 to $100 per hour depending on the number of spins per hour, and assuming the bias was consistent in the long run. After more than a year, and $90,000 in profits for John, the casino got a new wheel, and (I assume) John moved on to new wheels. That's how to win at roulette.

        Wasn't charting the wheel but from what I witnessed, it works. I had three $1 chips on "27" and the dealer said she that number hadn't hit all day so I asked her if I should take my bet down and she said "add some more chips" and I did. The pill dropped on "27" and I collected $210. Then she told me she once hit "27" four times in a row so I added six more chips and ten more after she started the spin;it landed on "27" again. The next spin was on "10" next to "27" and it proved to me dealers can control where the pill lands.

        Anybody trying to chart, keep in mind some spins are changed from counter clock-wise to clock-wise.

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          How To Win At Roulette

          I can tell you how to win at roulette, but do you have the patience? You'll have to sit patiently for thousands of spins before you start to make money. You see, it's all about "charting" the roulette wheel.

          How To Win At Roulette? Biased Wheels

          Years ago, when I ran a roulette table, one of my favorite players and I would talk philosophy all night while he patiently made his simple bets. I knew he was winning, but not how much. After I quit the job, I met him for coffee and discovered that he had made over $90,000 in sixteen months of part-time play. That made it more interesting.

          On a roulette wheel there are 38 "pockets" (American wheel - 1 through 36, plus 0 and 00). When the ball falls in a particular pocket, players are paid according to the number of that pocket. We'll ignore all the various bets and concentrate just on the "straight up" bets, which are bets on one number. You get paid 35 to 1 if your number comes up.

          You get $35 for each dollar bet, plus you keep the bet. You can see that the house has an edge (5.6 percent, to be precise), but what if certain numbers came up more often than they should - more often than 1-in-38 spins?

          Suppose, for example, number 5 is coming up an average of once every 29 spins. If you bet ten dollars on it every time, you would lose 28 times, or $280, every 29 spins, but win once which would pay you $350. In other words, in the long run, you would be making $70 for each 29 spins. ($350 minus $280) When there weren't many customers, I sometimes did 60 or more spins per hour, so you can see that this could be very lucrative.

          Why would that number or any other come up more often? The short answer: Who Cares! The longer explanation has to do with the nature of the wheels. The pockets could be manufactured imperfectly, with one or more slightly larger than the others, therefore catching the ball more often. One or more of the dividers between the pockets could be loose, absorbing the force of the ball instead of bouncing it away, so the ball might drop into that pocket more often.

          There are other reasons, including more temporary ones, like a drop of sticky pop in one of the pockets, or a build-up of dust. The important point isn't what causes a "biased" wheel, though. The important point is that biased wheels exist, and can be taken advantage of.

          Why would a Casino let this happen? Roulette wheels are expensive, and so they are not often replaced, unlike cards and dice, which Casinos replace daily. This means that if there is a bias, it sometimes remains for months. I know for a fact that managers where I worked were aware of the problem, but as long as the table made money overall, they were too lazy to worry about one guy making money on it.

          Charting a Roulette Wheel

          John (not his real name) came in initially with two friends. They took turns "charting" the wheel, which is nothing more than writing down the number that comes up on every spin. They did this for weeks on both roulette wheels in the Casino. It is an incredibly boring, but crucial part of the process, often amounting to nothing, since there may not be a bias.

          As it turned out, the number "0" was coming in 1-in-28 spins. Only John had the patience, though, to continue sitting there night after night, placing one bet on one number, over and over. Within a couple weeks, his friends quit. They didn't have the patience required, and probably also didn't like the fact that even with the odds in their favor, they had nights when they lost as much as $700.

          Night after night John sat there discussing politics and philosophy with me, placing one bet on 0 for each spin of the wheel. He was making $50 to $100 per hour depending on the number of spins per hour, and assuming the bias was consistent in the long run. After more than a year, and $90,000 in profits for John, the casino got a new wheel, and (I assume) John moved on to new wheels. That's how to win at roulette.

          Interesting information roulette is my favorite game at the casino I usually make profit never really thought about imperfections so much tho but very good to keep in mind

          Creativity..

          " What's more likely to happen will happen.. "

          Million dollar operation 

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            How To Win At Roulette

            I can tell you how to win at roulette, but do you have the patience? You'll have to sit patiently for thousands of spins before you start to make money. You see, it's all about "charting" the roulette wheel.

            How To Win At Roulette? Biased Wheels

            Years ago, when I ran a roulette table, one of my favorite players and I would talk philosophy all night while he patiently made his simple bets. I knew he was winning, but not how much. After I quit the job, I met him for coffee and discovered that he had made over $90,000 in sixteen months of part-time play. That made it more interesting.

            On a roulette wheel there are 38 "pockets" (American wheel - 1 through 36, plus 0 and 00). When the ball falls in a particular pocket, players are paid according to the number of that pocket. We'll ignore all the various bets and concentrate just on the "straight up" bets, which are bets on one number. You get paid 35 to 1 if your number comes up.

            You get $35 for each dollar bet, plus you keep the bet. You can see that the house has an edge (5.6 percent, to be precise), but what if certain numbers came up more often than they should - more often than 1-in-38 spins?

            Suppose, for example, number 5 is coming up an average of once every 29 spins. If you bet ten dollars on it every time, you would lose 28 times, or $280, every 29 spins, but win once which would pay you $350. In other words, in the long run, you would be making $70 for each 29 spins. ($350 minus $280) When there weren't many customers, I sometimes did 60 or more spins per hour, so you can see that this could be very lucrative.

            Why would that number or any other come up more often? The short answer: Who Cares! The longer explanation has to do with the nature of the wheels. The pockets could be manufactured imperfectly, with one or more slightly larger than the others, therefore catching the ball more often. One or more of the dividers between the pockets could be loose, absorbing the force of the ball instead of bouncing it away, so the ball might drop into that pocket more often.

            There are other reasons, including more temporary ones, like a drop of sticky pop in one of the pockets, or a build-up of dust. The important point isn't what causes a "biased" wheel, though. The important point is that biased wheels exist, and can be taken advantage of.

            Why would a Casino let this happen? Roulette wheels are expensive, and so they are not often replaced, unlike cards and dice, which Casinos replace daily. This means that if there is a bias, it sometimes remains for months. I know for a fact that managers where I worked were aware of the problem, but as long as the table made money overall, they were too lazy to worry about one guy making money on it.

            Charting a Roulette Wheel

            John (not his real name) came in initially with two friends. They took turns "charting" the wheel, which is nothing more than writing down the number that comes up on every spin. They did this for weeks on both roulette wheels in the Casino. It is an incredibly boring, but crucial part of the process, often amounting to nothing, since there may not be a bias.

            As it turned out, the number "0" was coming in 1-in-28 spins. Only John had the patience, though, to continue sitting there night after night, placing one bet on one number, over and over. Within a couple weeks, his friends quit. They didn't have the patience required, and probably also didn't like the fact that even with the odds in their favor, they had nights when they lost as much as $700.

            Night after night John sat there discussing politics and philosophy with me, placing one bet on 0 for each spin of the wheel. He was making $50 to $100 per hour depending on the number of spins per hour, and assuming the bias was consistent in the long run. After more than a year, and $90,000 in profits for John, the casino got a new wheel, and (I assume) John moved on to new wheels. That's how to win at roulette.

            Greetings Amber, et al-

            Do appreciate the posting effort on the 'Biased Wheels' phenomena & I know from seeing your other posts that your intention is sincere & you are not trolling

            Have you actually had the opportunity to apply this program???  Finding the biased wheel is pretty hard now a days  with all the casino video number occurrence checking systems for one thing.

            Beating the casino negative math ispossible but virtually improbable using the conventional arithmetic wisdom.

            Need to investigate out of the box solutions; if you want to walk on water first you have to get out of the boat (casino box) ~~~~~~

            When you solve the number prediction challenge & become a advantage player-then you will have to overcome the casino reaction: countermeasure's......

             

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              I love roulette.

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                I love roulette.

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                Hello Tatototman, Amber, Stack & all Roulette aficionados

                 

                As we all love Ruletta, so just for fun back test on past performance live Roulette out comes to observe the *#17 & #35 interaction, i.e. when either one hit L@@K for the other to also hit within several spins (not each & every time, mind you, but more often than not & likely over odds)

                *Numeric associated phenomena also works with KENO game (check it out)

                Let us know your results >>>>>

                 

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                  How To Win At Roulette

                  I can tell you how to win at roulette, but do you have the patience? You'll have to sit patiently for thousands of spins before you start to make money. You see, it's all about "charting" the roulette wheel.

                  How To Win At Roulette? Biased Wheels

                  Years ago, when I ran a roulette table, one of my favorite players and I would talk philosophy all night while he patiently made his simple bets. I knew he was winning, but not how much. After I quit the job, I met him for coffee and discovered that he had made over $90,000 in sixteen months of part-time play. That made it more interesting.

                  On a roulette wheel there are 38 "pockets" (American wheel - 1 through 36, plus 0 and 00). When the ball falls in a particular pocket, players are paid according to the number of that pocket. We'll ignore all the various bets and concentrate just on the "straight up" bets, which are bets on one number. You get paid 35 to 1 if your number comes up.

                  You get $35 for each dollar bet, plus you keep the bet. You can see that the house has an edge (5.6 percent, to be precise), but what if certain numbers came up more often than they should - more often than 1-in-38 spins?

                  Suppose, for example, number 5 is coming up an average of once every 29 spins. If you bet ten dollars on it every time, you would lose 28 times, or $280, every 29 spins, but win once which would pay you $350. In other words, in the long run, you would be making $70 for each 29 spins. ($350 minus $280) When there weren't many customers, I sometimes did 60 or more spins per hour, so you can see that this could be very lucrative.

                  Why would that number or any other come up more often? The short answer: Who Cares! The longer explanation has to do with the nature of the wheels. The pockets could be manufactured imperfectly, with one or more slightly larger than the others, therefore catching the ball more often. One or more of the dividers between the pockets could be loose, absorbing the force of the ball instead of bouncing it away, so the ball might drop into that pocket more often.

                  There are other reasons, including more temporary ones, like a drop of sticky pop in one of the pockets, or a build-up of dust. The important point isn't what causes a "biased" wheel, though. The important point is that biased wheels exist, and can be taken advantage of.

                  Why would a Casino let this happen? Roulette wheels are expensive, and so they are not often replaced, unlike cards and dice, which Casinos replace daily. This means that if there is a bias, it sometimes remains for months. I know for a fact that managers where I worked were aware of the problem, but as long as the table made money overall, they were too lazy to worry about one guy making money on it.

                  Charting a Roulette Wheel

                  John (not his real name) came in initially with two friends. They took turns "charting" the wheel, which is nothing more than writing down the number that comes up on every spin. They did this for weeks on both roulette wheels in the Casino. It is an incredibly boring, but crucial part of the process, often amounting to nothing, since there may not be a bias.

                  As it turned out, the number "0" was coming in 1-in-28 spins. Only John had the patience, though, to continue sitting there night after night, placing one bet on one number, over and over. Within a couple weeks, his friends quit. They didn't have the patience required, and probably also didn't like the fact that even with the odds in their favor, they had nights when they lost as much as $700.

                  Night after night John sat there discussing politics and philosophy with me, placing one bet on 0 for each spin of the wheel. He was making $50 to $100 per hour depending on the number of spins per hour, and assuming the bias was consistent in the long run. After more than a year, and $90,000 in profits for John, the casino got a new wheel, and (I assume) John moved on to new wheels. That's how to win at roulette.

                  I'm sorry I had not read your thread earlier. Thank you. I really enjoy Roulette when I visit Casinos. Something to think about the next time I visit.

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                    Yeah this may actually work in land casinos, but sadly not going to help in the online casinos, eh. Still we should play such games mainly for entertainment, and not gamble with money we cannot afford to lose.

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                      I won enough money playing roulette in a Detroit Casino
                      to buy my wifes engagement ring!
                      yes, it was a real diamond, almost flawless!
                      learned to play on the computer and reading up on it.

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                        Casino near me has those "automated roulette wheels" where there is no dealer, but still a physical wheel under a glass dome.  Do you think these could still fall under a bias like the manual ones?

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                          Hello again Valerie,

                          It is possible via various methods of wheel clocking to find a bias or opportunity with automated games and the bonus is you don't have to contend with some skilled dealers who will actively attempt to defeat your game - observe & check all winners on the auto roulette carousel

                          "You can observe a lot just by *watching."                                                      ~Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                          Many blue moons ago when starting to play, initiated to methodologies, I watched the winners & simply put my bet on the their selections Wink

                           

                           

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