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PA Play Slips Wild Card Option?

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Posted: August 25, 2016, 11:38 am - IP Logged

Ok so where's the news on the new box option on the PA playslips...it's WILD card or something of

that nature..all I know was my cards didn't work when I filled them in, I'm guessing the new play slips didn't

register in the terminal because the game extra hasn't been started yet? I asked the clerk but they knew 

nothing. I checked the website, nothing I saw there. Does anyone know what this is and the details of it?

I've seen states that have the sum it up extra game and a red ball game if I got the name right.

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    Posted: August 25, 2016, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

    This is from the pa lottery retailers section, you don't have to be a retailer to read the newsletters.

    Coming this fall, the new Wild Ball add-on will make it even more fun to play and win with the Pennsylvania Lottery’s PICK family of draw games. Wild Ball will give players more chances to win. As currently planned, the Lottery will draw a Wild Ball number that will apply to PICK 2, PICK 3, PICK 4 and PICK 5. When the Wild Ball add-on is purchased, players could use that designated Wild Ball number to replace any of the drawn numbers to help create a winning combination for the ticket they played. Wild Ball payouts will differ from regular game play. Choosing the Wild Ball option will double the cost of any play type. For example, a $1 PICK 3 play would cost $2 with the Wild Ball add-on feature. A Quick Resource Guide and how-to-play demonstrations will be available at palottery.com closer to the launch date. Watch for revised Play Slips and Game Guides to arrive.

    PA mid draw front pairs did not show in 2015,2016
    17x,21x,49x,552,93x (4)

    PA eve draw front pairs for str8 plays 2016 that haven't hit yet
    17x,28x (2)
    common front both draws 17x

    singles that haven't hit in either draw yet 
    017,123,234 
    doubles
    002,220,221,
    557,662,775,991,992,994,996

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      Posted: August 25, 2016, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

      TY kreative! That explains a lot, ty for finding that for me. The new slips shouldn't be put out just yet, I filled them in 

      right but they just wouldn't read. I know it wasn't the machine because I had a couple older slips that read just fine

      and they did not have the Wild add on box on them. So if anyone wants to use slips and sees the WILD box on them,

      try and find older regular ones I guess. Better than wasting the time. I'm curious what the payouts will be for the extra

      play @ $1.

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        Posted: August 25, 2016, 5:08 pm - IP Logged

        any of you seen the new grey machines for the lotto now?

        they accept debit cards and are very advanced compared

        to the normal yellow and green ivms. 

        the liquor store by me was one of the first in the whole state

        to have one... it's been in for a week. I like it so far.

        I'll take a pic and post it another day. kinda different for 

        pa to do something more advanced like this...

        ♠♣♥♦= $$$$

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          Posted: August 25, 2016, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

          any of you seen the new grey machines for the lotto now?

          they accept debit cards and are very advanced compared

          to the normal yellow and green ivms. 

          the liquor store by me was one of the first in the whole state

          to have one... it's been in for a week. I like it so far.

          I'll take a pic and post it another day. kinda different for 

          pa to do something more advanced like this...

          The big digital machine? I've been using it at the gas station for weeks...not bad

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            Posted: August 25, 2016, 5:36 pm - IP Logged

            I haven't seen the gray machines Chris$. And they take debit cards? Wow, I know of some stores that will do that

            but boy are they making it easy for players. No cash, no problem. So another new thing to hit PA...can't say they're

            not trying to accommodate. LOL

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              Posted: September 11, 2016, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

              Details of the game was posted recently in the PA Bulletin. Wild Ball is essentially another side-bet. However, it can't be played by itself; must always be paired with another wager, such as straight, box, etc. Assuming I'm calculating correctly, it appears the payback on Wild Ball is ~60-64% depending on the Pick game and wager type it's played with. If true, Wild Ball is a worthwhile wager for players.

              For example, say one plays 500 in the Pick-3. Some possible outcomes:

              Pick 3 Straight for $0.50 and box $0.50 pays $250 and/or $80 ... total: $330 or $80 (1 in 1000 and 1 in ~333 respectively).

              Pick 3 Straight for $0.50 and Wild Ball for $0.50 pays $250 and/or $100 ... total: $350 or $100 (an extra $20 more for same odds as above).

              The following snippets regarding Wild Ball for PA Pick 3 are from: http://www.pabulletin.com/secure/data/vol46/46-36/1528.html

              (c) If the Wild Ball number is the same as one of the three numbers drawn by the Lottery, and the player's numbers already match the numbers drawn for the player's play type, the player will be awarded the Wild Ball prize plus the PICK 3 prize as identified in section 7(a) (relating to prizes available to be won and determination of prize winners). The player will be awarded a Wild Ball prize for each winning combination created using the Wild Ball for that drawing, as determined by the player's play type and wager amount.

              (Emphasis above mine; Wild Ball pays in addition to the wager it's paired with, which is a good thing)

              (j) Probability of winning. The following table sets forth all possible ways that a Wild Ball prize can be won for a single play with the Wild Ball option selected; the probability of winning each prize for each $.50 wagered; and the corresponding prize won.

              PA Pick 3 Wild Ball:

              Win With The
              Following Types
              of Play:
              Probability Of
              Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Prize Won:Wild Ball Probability
              Of Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Wild Ball
              Prize Won:
              Straight1000$250333.33$100
              3-Way Box333.33$80111.11$36
              6-Way Box166.67$4055.56$18
              Front Pair100$2550$15
              Back Pair100$2550$15

               

              Wild Ball is offered for all PA Pick games...

              PA Pick 2 Wild Ball:

              Win With The
              Following
              Types of Play:
              Probability Of
              Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Prize Won:Wild Ball Probability
              Of Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Wild Ball
              Prize Won:
              Straight100$5050$30
              Box50$2525$15
              Front Digit10$510$6
              Back Digit10$510$6

               

              PA Pick 4 Wild Ball:

              Win With The
              Following Types
              of Play:
              Probability Of
              Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Prize Won:Wild Ball Probability
              Of Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Wild Ball
              Prize Won:
              Straight10,000$2,5002,500$750
              4-Way Box2,500$600625$195
              6-Way Box1,667$400416.67$130
              12-Way Box833.33$200208.33$65
              24-Way Box416.67$100104.17$30

               

              PA Pick 5 Wild Ball:

              Win With The
              Following
              Types of Play:
              Probability Of
              Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Prize Won:Wild Ball
              Probability Of
              Winning Per
              Play Is 1 In:
              Wild Ball
              Prize Won:
              Straight100,000$50,000 20,000$12,000
              5-Way Box20,000$10,0004,000$2,400
              10-Way Box10,000$5,0002,000$1,200
              20-Way Box5,000$2,5001,000$600
              30-Way Box3333$1,700666.67$400
              60-Way Box1667$850333.33$200
              120-Way Box833.33$425166.67$100
              Front Four10,000$5,0002,500$1,500
              Back Four10,000$5,0002,500$1,500
              Front Three1,000$500333.33$200
              Back Three1,000$500333.33$200
              Front Pair100$5050$30
              Back Pair100$5050$30

              All in all, PA Wild Ball appears to be an interesting new variation for the lottery, and worthwhile for players who like to side-bet; win more often.

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                Posted: September 16, 2016, 6:43 am - IP Logged

                I used Wildcard and can't understand why my ticket didn't win.  I played 6801 straight on the evening of 9-14-16.  The wildcard number chosen was the number 6.  The number picked was 6806.  In this scenario the wildcard of 6 should replace my forth digit (1).  Somehow, I'm being informed that this is not a winner.  I checked the rules multiple times and don't understand why this wasn't a winner. 

                 

                played:  6801

                Pick 4 picked: 6806

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                  I used Wildcard and can't understand why my ticket didn't win.  I played 6801 straight on the evening of 9-14-16.  The wildcard number chosen was the number 6.  The number picked was 6806.  In this scenario the wildcard of 6 should replace my forth digit (1).  Somehow, I'm being informed that this is not a winner.  I checked the rules multiple times and don't understand why this wasn't a winner. 

                   

                  played:  6801

                  Pick 4 picked: 6806

                  If you purchased wild ball you should have won
                  Scan the ticket yourself to see

                  Evening Drawing
                  09/14/16
                  Winning Numbers: 6  8  0  6  Wild Ball: 6

                  $0.50 Straight play pays $2,500.00
                  $0.50 Box play pays $200.00

                  Use the Wild Ball to replace any one of the Lottery drawn numbers.
                  Wild Ball Winning Combinations:

                  6 8 0 6, 6 6 0 6, 6 8 6 6, 6 8 0 6

                  $0.50 Straight with $0.50 Wild Ball play pays $750.00
                  $0.50 Box with $0.50 Wild Ball play pays up to $195.00

                  PA mid draw front pairs did not show in 2015,2016
                  17x,21x,49x,552,93x (4)

                  PA eve draw front pairs for str8 plays 2016 that haven't hit yet
                  17x,28x (2)
                  common front both draws 17x

                  singles that haven't hit in either draw yet 
                  017,123,234 
                  doubles
                  002,220,221,
                  557,662,775,991,992,994,996

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                    Posted: September 16, 2016, 11:13 am - IP Logged

                    If you purchased wild ball you should have won
                    Scan the ticket yourself to see

                    Evening Drawing
                    09/14/16
                    Winning Numbers: 6  8  0  6  Wild Ball: 6

                    $0.50 Straight play pays $2,500.00
                    $0.50 Box play pays $200.00

                    Use the Wild Ball to replace any one of the Lottery drawn numbers.
                    Wild Ball Winning Combinations:

                    6 8 0 6, 6 6 0 6, 6 8 6 6, 6 8 0 6

                    $0.50 Straight with $0.50 Wild Ball play pays $750.00
                    $0.50 Box with $0.50 Wild Ball play pays up to $195.00

                    no I'm wrong, if wild ball was 1 you would have won

                    wild replaces the original pick four drawn number not your pick four numbers?

                    confusing for sure

                    PA mid draw front pairs did not show in 2015,2016
                    17x,21x,49x,552,93x (4)

                    PA eve draw front pairs for str8 plays 2016 that haven't hit yet
                    17x,28x (2)
                    common front both draws 17x

                    singles that haven't hit in either draw yet 
                    017,123,234 
                    doubles
                    002,220,221,
                    557,662,775,991,992,994,996

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                      I used Wildcard and can't understand why my ticket didn't win.  I played 6801 straight on the evening of 9-14-16.  The wildcard number chosen was the number 6.  The number picked was 6806.  In this scenario the wildcard of 6 should replace my forth digit (1).  Somehow, I'm being informed that this is not a winner.  I checked the rules multiple times and don't understand why this wasn't a winner. 

                       

                      played:  6801

                      Pick 4 picked: 6806

                      Could just be a software add on conflict at the store you had it scanned.
                      take the ticket to your nearest lottery office.

                      Good Luck!!

                      let us know how it turns out.
                      if they don't pay, you shouldn't play

                      "know your limitations, but excede your expectations"

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                        Posted: September 17, 2016, 10:24 pm - IP Logged

                        no I'm wrong, if wild ball was 1 you would have won

                        wild replaces the original pick four drawn number not your pick four numbers?

                        confusing for sure

                        Correct. Wild Ball 1 is what he needed; did not win. Concept is good, but calling it Wild Ball can lead to misunderstanding. It seems the PA Lottery is doing the best it can to educate players.

                        Adding Wild Ball is the easiest way to improving the payback of any Pick-X game. Pick-X base games is around 50% overall payback. Adding Wild Ball improves that to 55%+. For example, Pick-2 Straight / Box costs $2 and pays $75 or $25. Pick-2 Straight with Wild Ball costs $2 and pays $80 or $30. An extra $5 potential payout for the same $2 wager and same odds. Another example is Pick-3 with Wild Ball I mentioned in a reply above. That extra payback, while not huge, is real and not reliant on any system.

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                          Posted: September 18, 2016, 12:03 pm - IP Logged

                          Speaking of confusing, it appears from the retailer info posted awhile back, one can win multiple times with the Wild Ball.

                          https://www.palottery.state.pa.us/getattachment/About-PA-Lottery/For-Retailers/Current-Retailer/Sales-Maker-July-2016.pdf.aspx

                          For example, play 500 straight for 50 cents with Wild Ball. 500 is drawn along with Wild Ball 0, one could win $450. $250 for straight + $100 for wild in 2nd position + $100 for wild in third position.

                          Another example, play 999 for 50 cents with Wild Ball. Wild Ball 9 comes up and, assuming the retailer info I've linked to above is accurate, could pay $550. $250 for straight + $100 for each of the 3 positions.

                          Likewise with Pick-4 and Pick-5. Matching say 55555 with Wild Ball could potentially pay $110,000. That's $10,000 more than what a regular $2 wager on the same number would pay, though the odds are more difficult. However, overall payback with Wild Ball is still better, since it also pays on near misses on a straight. For many, it's better to win at least $12,000 than $0.

                          Shame the PA Wild Ball faqs doesn't include more examples of what can possibly win along with more examples of what won't win. As it stands now, Wild Ball appears to be an even better value than I'd thought, but if the PA Lottery isn't more clear, the add-on game likely won't last. If Wild Ball truly does pay multiple times, it's a worthwhile wager even for those who normally don't side-bet.