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Lucky Loser

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Jul 10, 2017, 12:17 am

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Jul 9, 2017
You're not knocking anyone LL. You will never find a picture of Steve Player; except maybe a fake one of some "weird looking" guy living in the "wilderness of New England" surrounded by computers. That is most likely the only picture of 'Steve Player' you will ever find if you can find it. It would've been found in the old Lotto-World Magazine. There is no one person called Steve Player. It is a group and always has been of "lottery-system developers", who once were related to Lotto World Magazine. This magazine was basically a "vehicle" for the Steve Player lotto systems, which is why half of the magazine contained ads for Steve Player's systems. It is like a clan of lottery software developers. ------This is a direct quote from the Mr. Ion Saliu himself found on his website saliu.com.

Do you really think you can fill a room up with $20 bills wall to floor?
Do you really think the lottery pays people in cash? No, you get checks.

So if it's not one person, who's that person holding the tickets and all that cash. It's a good question.

I wholly agree with your general sentiment here. Let me be perfectly clear, I do know that it's entirely possible to be successful with lottery games, and, especially with Pick 3/4...I've said this time after time. However, I'm seeing where 'this entity' called Steve Player is excluding some very, very pertinent information regarding all the math, money, and the time frame required to produced these acclaimed wins. Let's compare his deal to the MIT students where they figured out how to master the Massachusetts Lottery Cash Winfall game which is actually documented very well. These guys used math to estimate what it would cost to guarantee a profit on each play session which falls directly in line with 'numbers don't lie.' James Harvey was actually the first person to prove the math involved by spending $1K and turning it into $3K...a $2K clear profit by intention. When they formed their group, Random Strategies Investments, they they knew that a 15 - 20 percent ROI was well within range for a $600K investment. Now, that's not chump change by any means but, the point is that its been long revealed how and what they did to attain those wins.

This Steve Player outfit has been in business, since what the 80's, and has shown not a single iota of math, expenses, or a time line of how long it took to land the wins claimed. Oh, but he has no problem posting up piles of cash and supposedly winners holding all this cash. The only numbers I ever see from this marketer are the costs of his systems and how much he claims to have won...that's it. In his claimed thirty plus years of playing and winning lottery games, why the h*ll hasn't he won both Powerball and Megamillions by now with all the profit that he's made? Surely he has the money to spend and knows the math to do it BY NOW, right? After all, PB and MM's are simply the smaller games on steroids...which simply require big money to win as proven by MIT. What's wrong with this picture? Personally, I wouldn't be doing jack until he/they disclosed how was spent and how long it took because I can guarantee that that any amount he/they have been paid out isn't all profit. It costed them both money and time to get there, and, I know darn well I could put a pencil to it and expose them. I'm not saying that his stuff doesn't or can't work, I'm saying that he's nowhere close to telling the whole story. I could put his @ss in check real quick.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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Jul 10, 2017, 12:39 am

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jul 9, 2017
This comment isn't to knock anyone or anything for that matter but, I'm just having a problem with this whole Steve Player deal. I mean, I'll start with the fact that I cannot even find a picture of this seemingly prominent person that won millions by now. Maybe I just haven't looked in the right places but, I'd think his website and/or his Facebook page would a great start. Is this his stage name? Probably so. Why is it that if he's selling exactly what he's using, someone else isn't winning just as much as he is? I just don't get it. I've tried Googling Steve Player's net worth only to come up with nothing. Why aren't the top notch Poker, Black Jack, and Roulette players all talking about Steve Player, using his systems, and winning just like he is? Does Steve Player even have a stock quote to invest in as he's so successful? These, in my humble opinion, are some very good questions and concerns. Again, not trying to knock anything but, rather to be more educated on something I may be missing.

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Jul 10, 2017, 4:39 pm

Quote: Originally posted by amber123 on Jul 9, 2017
Glad-that-you-and-one-other-who-PMed-me-today-in-Cali-asking-for-an-update,-I-forgot-to-update...my-bad!.....I-digress....

Been-working-7-days-a-week-for-about-2-months-with-Uber-making-great-money-so-no-time-for-replies...Nevertheless,-the-system-owner-PMed-me-yesterday-telling-me-he-did-an-extensive-back-test-and-it-failed.

I-didn't-ask-for-receipt-of-the-purchase...That-would-qualify-it-I-know...still-learning-how-to-manage-the-modern-ape...lol

Bottom-Line..A-BUST!...I'm-not-surprised.....Let's-at-least-thank-this-person-for-spending-what-I-would-call-"Hard-Earned-Money"-to-find-out-whether-a-system-works-or-not....But-again..it-could-still-be-a-troll.

BTW,...Need-a-new-AC-compressor-tomorrow....Business-expense-Biatch-!...My-Uber-Bonus-will-help-pay-or-the-majority-of-the-expense...Hmmm....what-a-Coincidinka-

It was obvious this system used two digit from each digit position to create 8 three digit straight numbers, but when they claimed "box" wins, a big red flag should be raised. Years ago I played the two digit playing strategy using two digits that followed the previous digit in each digit position, but one hit a month isn't exactly life changing money.
Stack47

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Jul 10, 2017, 6:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Jul 9, 2017
You're not knocking anyone LL. You will never find a picture of Steve Player; except maybe a fake one of some "weird looking" guy living in the "wilderness of New England" surrounded by computers. That is most likely the only picture of 'Steve Player' you will ever find if you can find it. It would've been found in the old Lotto-World Magazine. There is no one person called Steve Player. It is a group and always has been of "lottery-system developers", who once were related to Lotto World Magazine. This magazine was basically a "vehicle" for the Steve Player lotto systems, which is why half of the magazine contained ads for Steve Player's systems. It is like a clan of lottery software developers. ------This is a direct quote from the Mr. Ion Saliu himself found on his website saliu.com.

Do you really think you can fill a room up with $20 bills wall to floor?
Do you really think the lottery pays people in cash? No, you get checks.

So if it's not one person, who's that person holding the tickets and all that cash. It's a good question.

Gail Howard, Robert Serotic's syndicate, and many others did lots of advertising on Lotto World Magazine too. And I wouldn't be surprised the same Aussie syndicate that bought out the Virginia Lottery advertised there for new members.

IMO, most of the Steve Player systems are playing strategies that have the same odds against and are not any more productive than any other method. A good example is their pick-4 doubles box where players buy 36 tickets and parlay the winnings by buying 360 more tickets. Instead of sending the Steve Player people $100 or more for that "system", I'll explain to anyone for free.
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Jul 10, 2017, 8:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 10, 2017
Gail Howard, Robert Serotic's syndicate, and many others did lots of advertising on Lotto World Magazine too. And I wouldn't be surprised the same Aussie syndicate that bought out the Virginia Lottery advertised there for new members.

IMO, most of the Steve Player systems are playing strategies that have the same odds against and are not any more productive than any other method. A good example is their pick-4 doubles box where players buy 36 tickets and parlay the winnings by buying 360 more tickets. Instead of sending the Steve Player people $100 or more for that "system", I'll explain to anyone for free.

Hi Stack, et al-

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Jul 11, 2017, 11:52 am

Quote: Originally posted by jeeps1 on Jul 3, 2017
I can't believe as much money as he says he wins that he charges so much money for his systems.I have his power blox which I bought years ago and I do hit with it .Linda in Florida

I remember your post from way, way back when searching Steve Player on LP.

Your still hitting with the Power Blox? Wow, interesting...

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