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Slick Nick

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Here in New York, as in many other states there are a variety of games. Both draw games and scratch-offs. What do you choose to play first? And is there any special reasoning behind your choice?

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Jan 6, 2018, 10:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by Slick Nick on Jan 6, 2018
Here in New York, as in many other states there are a variety of games. Both draw games and scratch-offs. What do you choose to play first? And is there any special reasoning behind your choice?

I'm an online games guy. Mostly Take5, and a little Cash 4 Life, but I did play Mega last nite, and I'll buy PB for tonite. But I'm gonna buy those PB tix's with a slight twist...

I'm driving over to Pennsylvania today to buy their New Year's Millionaire Raffle tickets. The raffle drawing is tonite, and they haven't sold all 500,000 tickets. Because last Wednesday I had a 4 out of 5 Take5 hit, I'm gonna use Andy Cuomo's money to buy 5 more Millionaire Raffle tix. While I'm there I'll grab some Pennsylvania PB tickets for tonite's drawing. G5

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Jan 6, 2018, 10:22 am

Hey "GiveFive", thanks for commenting. And good luck, Do the laws of interstate betting cause any problems? I've heard so many different stories.

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Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on Jan 6, 2018
I'm an online games guy. Mostly Take5, and a little Cash 4 Life, but I did play Mega last nite, and I'll buy PB for tonite. But I'm gonna buy those PB tix's with a slight twist...

I'm driving over to Pennsylvania today to buy their New Year's Millionaire Raffle tickets. The raffle drawing is tonite, and they haven't sold all 500,000 tickets. Because last Wednesday I had a 4 out of 5 Take5 hit, I'm gonna use Andy Cuomo's money to buy 5 more Millionaire Raffle tix. While I'm there I'll grab some Pennsylvania PB tickets for tonite's drawing. G5

I had a 4 out of 5 Take5 hit, I'm gonna use Andy Cuomo's money to buy 5 more Millionaire Raffle tix.

That's a nice $330.50 bump! Depending on how much you'll be spending from this point, Andy could be doing your heavy lifting for a good while. Nice!

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

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Jan 6, 2018, 11:50 am

You made a great point Lucky,,, >>> "depending how much you'll be spending from this point". BUDGET BETTING..

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Jan 6, 2018, 11:57 am

Unless I get extremely lucky the government is going to keep the majority of the money I spend on lottery tickets, so I see no point in trying to win chump change that won't result in a major life change. There are a few scratch games with prizes in the millions but the overwhelming majority are pretty small, and even the top prizes are often under 50k.

For the life of me I'll never understand why people play pick 3. If you spend $1 per day and win the very first time you'll be back in the red in less than a year and a half. I've played other games on very rare occasions, but the only thing I play at all regularly is NY lotto, MM and PB.
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KY, these days, and due to my budget goal I set, I don't play the 3 way, or 4 way, with an exception to the rule. My goal is 20.00 bucks a week, give or take a buck for the Take 5 out of my pocket. Cans and bottle money, my choice.

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Jan 6, 2018, 12:52 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Slick Nick on Jan 6, 2018
Here in New York, as in many other states there are a variety of games. Both draw games and scratch-offs. What do you choose to play first? And is there any special reasoning behind your choice?

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Jan 6, 2018, 1:25 pm

thank you Raven. >>> New York State Lottery, case closed!!!

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Quote: Originally posted by Slick Nick on Jan 6, 2018
KY, these days, and due to my budget goal I set, I don't play the 3 way, or 4 way, with an exception to the rule. My goal is 20.00 bucks a week, give or take a buck for the Take 5 out of my pocket. Cans and bottle money, my choice.

Yeah, I sort of share the same sentiments as you and KYFloyd but, I'll always be in favor of a small profit 100% better than a loss of any kind. I mean, we're dealing with money and gambling here so the general idea is to see a return...if possible. I'll add that it is very possible to accomplish this but, players all too often become misguided with wins and losses due to faulty mathematical practices. Let's use your $20.00 bucks per week budget as an example. If you spend $5/day on one draw and hit on the 4th draw, which would have consumed your whole budget, then you must first subtract that $20 from what ever type of win you've encountered becausethis was your total cost. What ever is left is your actual win and profit, okay. The technical win is the payout from game itself and the two must be separate of one another in order to properly maintain finances...if you're a serious player. If this is only for entertainment then it doesn't matter. Personally, I've always been a proponent of an accurate financial trail because I take my money seriously. Not sure if you've seen the following thread link like others here have but, I decided to illustrate exactly what I'm talking about with a fixed set of numbers played live. Lots of detail and my numbers are accurate which made some people happy and others not so much once they realized what was really going on. Should you decide to visit, please read carefully and it does begin on Page 8.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/276724/8

In the end and in my personal opinion, any consistent and actual real win as described above is gonna be better than losing even $1. The reason why is partially because of what Give5 said in his post. Those wins can be used to fund other games which are very, very hard...pretty much impossible to win. It's better to use other people's money (your wins) if you're going to lose elsewhere...or win even. Others may see this differently but, it just makes sense to me. Heck, who am I?

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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Jan 6, 2018, 1:50 pm

Lucky, I saw Page 8, and your posting. I didn't see where you won or lost out of 27 bets. Did it payoff?

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Jan 6, 2018, 3:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Slick Nick on Jan 6, 2018
Lucky, I saw Page 8, and your posting. I didn't see where you won or lost out of 27 bets. Did it payoff?

The experiment begins on Page 8 and runs 'effectively' through Page 11. It's a fair amount of reading which requires close attention to details and I don't blame you if you don't have the time or interest. We basically started with an $80 bankroll to spend on a set of (27) combos without changing them or the type of bet. Before each next play, we factored in the last play win, loss, and/or profit to illustrate the real time financial activity of Pick 3 which most don't do. It was designed as a help aid, and, to have fun disproving the myth that a fixed set of numbers cannot win and produce a profit over time. The main argument in that thread came from a member named 'bluerain' who claimed to be a professional...which was fine. bluerain decided to downplay what was clearly shown to be profit and recovery of investment while he was yet losing and failed to show anything. His predictions didn't do anything and he then disappeared altogether only to return on Page 12...asking what I had up my sleeve when everything was already documented and straight forward. No tricks involved. We merely showed that the set produced small profits and kept the player from having to front money on every play, that's all. I became slightly aggressive with a few un-named others but, it was warranted. In the end, yes, that list did produce actual profits but I wasn't betting in real time. We documented the 'what if' wins, also, based on had we played the list straight in addition to the pair and boxed play which was our base play strategy...it's all illustrated.

In my honest opinion, there is such a thing as playing to few numbers on the Pick Games which will not allow the player to effectively realize a hit of any kind within a reasonable amount of time and I've shared that with you. It's the truth. When you're spending money on this game, you must hit within a certain amount of time and the total cost up and to that point strictly dictates what type of hit is required to 1) recover partial costs + reduce debt, 2) recover all costs + break even, 3) recover all costs + turn a profit, or 4) match nothing at all and fall further into debt. Timing is everything and taking too long to get a hit is the enemy. *Every single lottery player will fall into one of those categories every single time they play...GUARANTEED.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

#lotto-4-a-living
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Jan 6, 2018, 3:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Slick Nick on Jan 6, 2018
Hey "GiveFive", thanks for commenting. And good luck, Do the laws of interstate betting cause any problems? I've heard so many different stories.

Thanks Slick, and I've no idea if interstate betting laws cause problems. I aint ever won a dime out side of New York. Well, on second thought, yes I did. I won 20 bucks a year or so ago while in Florida playing Fantasy Five. I won 15 bucks in North Carolina too, but as you can see, I didn't have to worry about the Tax Man.

I'll figure it out tonite after I win a cool Mill in PA's Millionaire Raffle. G5

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Jan 6, 2018, 3:26 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jan 6, 2018
I had a 4 out of 5 Take5 hit, I'm gonna use Andy Cuomo's money to buy 5 more Millionaire Raffle tix.

That's a nice $330.50 bump! Depending on how much you'll be spending from this point, Andy could be doing your heavy lifting for a good while. Nice!

Hells Bells Lucky!! 330.50??? I won $488.50!!!! But thanks anyway! G5

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Jan 6, 2018, 3:51 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jan 6, 2018
Yeah, I sort of share the same sentiments as you and KYFloyd but, I'll always be in favor of a small profit 100% better than a loss of any kind. I mean, we're dealing with money and gambling here so the general idea is to see a return...if possible. I'll add that it is very possible to accomplish this but, players all too often become misguided with wins and losses due to faulty mathematical practices. Let's use your $20.00 bucks per week budget as an example. If you spend $5/day on one draw and hit on the 4th draw, which would have consumed your whole budget, then you must first subtract that $20 from what ever type of win you've encountered becausethis was your total cost. What ever is left is your actual win and profit, okay. The technical win is the payout from game itself and the two must be separate of one another in order to properly maintain finances...if you're a serious player. If this is only for entertainment then it doesn't matter. Personally, I've always been a proponent of an accurate financial trail because I take my money seriously. Not sure if you've seen the following thread link like others here have but, I decided to illustrate exactly what I'm talking about with a fixed set of numbers played live. Lots of detail and my numbers are accurate which made some people happy and others not so much once they realized what was really going on. Should you decide to visit, please read carefully and it does begin on Page 8.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/276724/8

In the end and in my personal opinion, any consistent and actual real win as described above is gonna be better than losing even $1. The reason why is partially because of what Give5 said in his post. Those wins can be used to fund other games which are very, very hard...pretty much impossible to win. It's better to use other people's money (your wins) if you're going to lose elsewhere...or win even. Others may see this differently but, it just makes sense to me. Heck, who am I?

Smart way to play Lucky. As for me, it's purely entertainment. If I win, great! If not, Oh well! I view my number picking as a challenge and I actually like it. I lose most of time, but my recent 4 out of 5 hit was my second one in the last eight months. I won $575 playing Take5 in May of 2017. I've also had four or five three number hits since last May which pays out anywhere from $15 to $25.

I only play MM/PB when it's a large jackpot (like now) and when I play I always add either the Megaplier or The PowerPlay. Last November, I bought a few tickets for tonite's Pennsylvania New Year's Millionaire Raffle, and I had no plans to buy any more. But then I hit almost $500 this week on New York's Take5, so I decided to pop over to PA and buy five more. (Cost me $100)

I like that PA Raffle...they do it twice per year. (In January and July) There are max of 500,000 tickets sold and 4 one million dollar winners so the odds are 1:125,000 to win a million dollars. In terms of playing lotteries that's pretty low odds to win a million dollars. NY's Take5 offers worse odds (575,757 to 1) and the jackpot is 60 to 70 grand, and that's only if you're the sole winner. G5

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