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• JADELottery

  

  Native American Eagle Sun

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  Mar 21, 2018, 11:02 pm

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  This is an opinion post with an interesting poll question.
  
  Is the new Lotto America game computer generated or going to become computer generated?
  
  Now, before you answer, you need to read this through completely.
  
  We have seen many question the real ball drawing promoted about this lottery game.
  
  However, history is not in their favor.
  
  A while back there was a game called All-Or-Nothing and it too was promoted as a real ball drawn game.
  
  As time and draw moved on, we come to find that it was not, or at the very least, it was changed to a computer generated game.
  
  Here's the initial Lottery Post news about the All-Or-Nothing game which was offered in both Iowa and Minnesota.
  
  Iowa and Minnesota lotteries kick off new multi-state game
  
  
  
  We can see the game was touted as a real ball drawn game.
  
  Doing a bit more digging, we found the Lottery Post Report Card for Minnesota showing it was real ball drawn game back in 2014.
  
  https://web.archive.org/web/20140131084210/https://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp
  
  
  
  Like the Lotto America game it too was not televised; as it shows in this Minnesota Lottery web page.
  
  https://www.mnlottery.com/games/lotto_games/all_or_nothing/
  
  
  
  Questions about the game's real or virtual nature have been expressed here at the Lottery Post and for good reason, as stated in the LP news article.
  
  Going even further, we find the game rules for each state, IA and MN, that layout the games drawing procedures.
  
  The Minnesota game rules on page 5 clearly state the game uses real balls.
  
  https://www.mnlottery.com/_asset/2y749k/All-or-Nothing-Procedures-Amended_032516_Current.pdf
  
  
  
  However, the Iowa game procedures state right at the beginning it's a computerized game and way back in 2013 before the game even started.
  
  https://www.ialottery.com/PDF/GameRules/AllOrNothingGameRules.pdf
  
  
  
  The Lottery Post Report Card also changed on or just before 2015-04-07 to reflect the fact All-Or-Nothing is was a Computer Generated Drawing.
  
  https://web.archive.org/web/20150407042909/https://www.lotterypost.com/lottery-report-card.asp
  
  
  
  At this point, we can see there's good reason to question the real ball drawedness of the Lotto America game given the past probable deception.
  
  Video recording a drawing and posting it on the Internet is not a miracle of computing science.

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• ressuccess

  

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  I think it's going to be computer generated because we only had one jackpot winner in Lotto America so far in the year 2018!

  I hope that one $2 ticket is the only one that matches all 5 numbers plus the PB to win the largest PB jackpot in United States history of over $2 Billion Dollars! I hope that one $2 ticket is the only one that matches all 5 numbers plus the Mega Ball to win the largest Mega Millions jackpot in United States history of over $2 Billion Dollars!
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  Quote: Originally posted by ressuccess on Mar 22, 2018

  I think it's going to be computer generated because we only had one jackpot winner in Lotto America so far in the year 2018!

  yeah, with the Tipton tragedy, we can see why the draws are secretly hidden from view.

  maybe at some point we'll find out for sure.

  till then, we stopped playing when the jackpot is low; let everyone else be had.

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• Bodia77

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Mar 22, 2018

  yeah, with the Tipton tragedy, we can see why the draws are secretly hidden from view.

  maybe at some point we'll find out for sure.

  till then, we stopped playing when the jackpot is low; let everyone else be had.

  I have been saying this for weeks now. I think it's RNG not traditional ball draw. I mean come on they don't have 2 minutes to post video for all to see the transparency of the game after what Tipton did ?

  I stop playing this game until i see proof that is a ball draw and not computer. I will stick with Luckyforlife or Powerball or Megamillions.

    Ball games that are not televised always get a recorded videos to post on website or youtube but not this game. It stinks miles away from Florida.

  Lotto America is DOA, the payouts are awful.
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  Quote: Originally posted by Bodia77 on Mar 22, 2018

  I have been saying this for weeks now. I think it's RNG not traditional ball draw. I mean come on they don't have 2 minutes to post video for all to see the transparency of the game after what Tipton did ?

  I stop playing this game until i see proof that is a ball draw and not computer. I will stick with Luckyforlife or Powerball or Megamillions.

    Ball games that are not televised always get a recorded videos to post on website or youtube but not this game. It stinks miles away from Florida.

  Lotto America is DOA, the payouts are awful.

  Yeuh, Come On.

  Show me your balls Lotto America.

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• JADELottery

  

  Native American Eagle Sun

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  nuthin...

  maybe a computerized powerball and/or mega millions someday, aye.

  

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• bobby623

  

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  There is an entry on the 'how to play' page for Lotto America that says two machines are used to generate winning numbers - one for 5 main numbers and another for the Star (bonus) number.
  I think it would be extremely risky for a lottery to claim numbers are determined by machines but secretly use a computer.
  If they did, surely there would be a whistle blower speaking out.

  Re: All or Nothing.
  MUSL discontinued AON in June 2017.
  Without a single source, I suppose the states can use whatever means they think will provide the most profit.
  The AON game in Texas uses ball machines. The 4 daily drawings are streamed on-line.
  As for Powerball going to computers.
  MUSL is raking in big  bucks with ball machines.
  Why would they want to make gamblers angry by using computer drawings?
  But, a lot of stuff we take for granted is being warped by politics and greed.
  So, who can know what the lottery future might look like as the states seek higher profits??
• Bodia77

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on Mar 26, 2018

  There is an entry on the 'how to play' page for Lotto America that says two machines are used to generate winning numbers - one for 5 main numbers and another for the Star (bonus) number.
  I think it would be extremely risky for a lottery to claim numbers are determined by machines but secretly use a computer.
  If they did, surely there would be a whistle blower speaking out.

  Re: All or Nothing.
  MUSL discontinued AON in June 2017.
  Without a single source, I suppose the states can use whatever means they think will provide the most profit.
  The AON game in Texas uses ball machines. The 4 daily drawings are streamed on-line.
  As for Powerball going to computers.
  MUSL is raking in big  bucks with ball machines.
  Why would they want to make gamblers angry by using computer drawings?
  But, a lot of stuff we take for granted is being warped by politics and greed.
  So, who can know what the lottery future might look like as the states seek higher profits??

  All we want to see is proof of the draw. Either live or recorded and post on youtube later. We can't take their word for it. Just because they say is traditional draw with balls.

  They also said computer draws RNG was safe till Eddie rigged it.

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  So far, it's Not going good.

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