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8 Games…..39/5=7.8 rounded to 8 Games Gives Every Number the Opportunity to Hit at least 1 Time.

La Igrok posted his Method of Playing Jackpot Games a while back. He showed up with a Book and a Picture of a Very Nice Big Check from the California Lottery for a share of a Fantasy 5 Jack Pot. Standing on that Pile of Cash, Igor is emphatic that his Method is the ONLY WAY that this Lottery can be Won with a Strategy and that All other Systems are based on “Alternative” Math and any Wins result from Luck and not the System itself. Absolute Statements, in this case “My Method is the Only Way” should always be subject to scrutiny. I am Not ready to Drink the Kool Aide, YET, and here is Why.

I will begin by Giving Credit and Praise to Igor for being the First to present the Idea of the 8 Game “Round” and for pointing out an observable expression of the 2/3 Rule. That Rule and Reality, at the End of 8 consecutive games, 1/3 of the numbers (1-39) will not be Drawn. In the last 409 Games of CA Fantasy 5, the Average of the Undrawn is 33.5%. The High Value is 46.2% and the Low is 17.9%. That is a big variation and is the Obstacle that must be overcome. Reality here is that this variance makes predicting difficult; but, out of 409 Draws, this percentage has been exactly 33.3% in 92 of those Games. Certainly the 7 Game Count is an indicator of Something; but, it Can be misleading. Relationships and Tendencies are apparent. I will have a detailed analysis of this Relationship Soon. It is near the Top of the To Do List.

I will again give Credit and Praise to Igor for the 8 Game Round. When you Look Closely at one of these rounds, you can see Exactly where the Hits come from as you go from Game 1 to Game 8. You can do this with Igor’s use of “Structures”. These Structures are a 5 Digit Sequence of 001,002 or 003. These 3 Numbers represent the Current Hit Values after the Test Game is Drawn. In Effect there are 4 Groups. The No Hits, 001=Numbers hitting once, 002=Numbers hitting twice and 003=Numbers hitting 3 or more times in the 8 Game Round. I am pretty sure that I have this Correct. By the Way, I have exchanged several Emails with Igor. I tried to make the point that the Basic Concept was Elegant (the 8 Game Round) and that it set off a Storm in my Brain. Because, I have used Groups to track games, These New Formations were like Drugs to an Addict and to be honest, probably the best on the “Market” that I have seen or created in my own Lab. Every question that I tried to ask was answered with a Statement that the only thing you needed to know was in the Book. A little bit of background needs to be addressed here. I have great respect for MrB and High praise and appreciation of Igor’s Idea. I was given the option of being in a Group or Company that was forming. That Group apparently includes some other LP Members but, I know nothing about it beyond that. The only thing I do know is that this Group is developing a way of automating the Method with a Computer Program and that Igor might have a touch of Gold Fever from their progress. I guess I am just plain stubborn, my detriment if the Group Begins to hit the Big ones. Unfortunately, “Read the Book” was not enough of or a very good answer for my Storming Brain. I completely understand what a Company is, and the Need for everyone to be on the Same Page. The goal is Jackpots. The Mission Statement is to Use Igor’s Method to do this by Automating and Programming the Process. That focus eliminated any more Brain Storming and New Ideas. Read the Book and you will be welcome was my only option if I wanted to participate. I do not Disagree with the Requirement and understood that it’s acceptance was mandatory. I just wanted to open a dialog about the Cycle and some of my thought on it’s use. The Response was…”neither I nor Mark need and want to get aboard some sort of a "loose cannon" as another partner of ours. We all have to speak same language and understand each other from the first word to the last absolutely in order to avoid even slightest possible misconceptions. Apparently this is not the case with you. But we two already have a plan and our own to do list and the strategy which we hope will eventually lead us to the ultimate success.Therefore we don't have nether time nor willingness and necessity to somehow adapt it to your intellectual performances. We are in business and not in circus.” That pissed me off. Not because it was Wrong; but, because it showed me something about Igor. Being unwilling to discuss any basics did not Set Well. It begins to look like a Cult or Church with Its own Bible. There is No Way but MY WAY is the Mantra that I cannot Accept and therefore I am not in the Group. The thing that Really pissed me off was being dismissed for asking a few questions. I accept the Brand, but I am not a malcontent. Expressing admiration and producing an Excel File that showed the History of the Structures, I was Rebuffed because I was holding off on buying the Book. I could not even get an acknowledgement that my Structure was the Same as Igor’s. I am pretty sure that it is; but, I don’t Care any more. I am not saying that I will not buy the Book. I just want to Brain Storm a little more and I’ll be honest, find out if there is Another Way.

In the coming days, I will have a few ideas to run by you all. I can not say for sure if these ideas are very similar to Igor’s; but based in his statements, I am probably not smart enough to think of anything that resembles his method. That being said, I am going to Stay on my own path. Any similarities will be pure coincidence as I have been assured by Igor, that my Ideas are in no way Similar (he might want to actually read what I sent as it appears that he only absorbed the Notion that I was a Contrarian).

For Now, I wish Igor and Mark and Company success. I Only hope that they do not ruin the Game by being to successful. Could you guys save a few games for the Rest of Us when you Crack Open the Game?

More to Come.
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Jun 13, 2018, 7:25 pm

Allen b. You sound a bit scared of him. There is no copyright protection for publicly posted ideas concerning number arrays, number calculations, etc. You are also free to improve on anyone's idea.

I am concerned about some classic red flag language in his most recent post about starting a group....basIcally only open to Special people...lol....and being promised small wins to get to possible big wins...and the group control about everyone needing to be on the same page.

Beware!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AllenB,you are one cool guy. Ignore everyone and concentrate on your own awesome stuff. Listen, it's been 2 months since that other thread started. Either it's a "winning" system or not. So far....~Crickets~ One split jackpot win...keep that in mind. Was it really because of a system or just dumb luck? When you hear of LP members actually winning real jackpots on a regular basis, then you might want to consider taking a look but until then I have faith in you and your talent. I'd love to see you concentrate more on Pick 3/4 games. Something tells me that's where you excel.
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jun 13, 2018
8 Games…..39/5=7.8 rounded to 8 Games Gives Every Number the Opportunity to Hit at least 1 Time.

La Igrok posted his Method of Playing Jackpot Games a while back. He showed up with a Book and a Picture of a Very Nice Big Check from the California Lottery for a share of a Fantasy 5 Jack Pot. Standing on that Pile of Cash, Igor is emphatic that his Method is the ONLY WAY that this Lottery can be Won with a Strategy and that All other Systems are based on “Alternative” Math and any Wins result from Luck and not the System itself. Absolute Statements, in this case “My Method is the Only Way” should always be subject to scrutiny. I am Not ready to Drink the Kool Aide, YET, and here is Why.

I will begin by Giving Credit and Praise to Igor for being the First to present the Idea of the 8 Game “Round” and for pointing out an observable expression of the 2/3 Rule. That Rule and Reality, at the End of 8 consecutive games, 1/3 of the numbers (1-39) will not be Drawn. In the last 409 Games of CA Fantasy 5, the Average of the Undrawn is 33.5%. The High Value is 46.2% and the Low is 17.9%. That is a big variation and is the Obstacle that must be overcome. Reality here is that this variance makes predicting difficult; but, out of 409 Draws, this percentage has been exactly 33.3% in 92 of those Games. Certainly the 7 Game Count is an indicator of Something; but, it Can be misleading. Relationships and Tendencies are apparent. I will have a detailed analysis of this Relationship Soon. It is near the Top of the To Do List.

I will again give Credit and Praise to Igor for the 8 Game Round. When you Look Closely at one of these rounds, you can see Exactly where the Hits come from as you go from Game 1 to Game 8. You can do this with Igor’s use of “Structures”. These Structures are a 5 Digit Sequence of 001,002 or 003. These 3 Numbers represent the Current Hit Values after the Test Game is Drawn. In Effect there are 4 Groups. The No Hits, 001=Numbers hitting once, 002=Numbers hitting twice and 003=Numbers hitting 3 or more times in the 8 Game Round. I am pretty sure that I have this Correct. By the Way, I have exchanged several Emails with Igor. I tried to make the point that the Basic Concept was Elegant (the 8 Game Round) and that it set off a Storm in my Brain. Because, I have used Groups to track games, These New Formations were like Drugs to an Addict and to be honest, probably the best on the “Market” that I have seen or created in my own Lab. Every question that I tried to ask was answered with a Statement that the only thing you needed to know was in the Book. A little bit of background needs to be addressed here. I have great respect for MrB and High praise and appreciation of Igor’s Idea. I was given the option of being in a Group or Company that was forming. That Group apparently includes some other LP Members but, I know nothing about it beyond that. The only thing I do know is that this Group is developing a way of automating the Method with a Computer Program and that Igor might have a touch of Gold Fever from their progress. I guess I am just plain stubborn, my detriment if the Group Begins to hit the Big ones. Unfortunately, “Read the Book” was not enough of or a very good answer for my Storming Brain. I completely understand what a Company is, and the Need for everyone to be on the Same Page. The goal is Jackpots. The Mission Statement is to Use Igor’s Method to do this by Automating and Programming the Process. That focus eliminated any more Brain Storming and New Ideas. Read the Book and you will be welcome was my only option if I wanted to participate. I do not Disagree with the Requirement and understood that it’s acceptance was mandatory. I just wanted to open a dialog about the Cycle and some of my thought on it’s use. The Response was…”neither I nor Mark need and want to get aboard some sort of a "loose cannon" as another partner of ours. We all have to speak same language and understand each other from the first word to the last absolutely in order to avoid even slightest possible misconceptions. Apparently this is not the case with you. But we two already have a plan and our own to do list and the strategy which we hope will eventually lead us to the ultimate success.Therefore we don't have nether time nor willingness and necessity to somehow adapt it to your intellectual performances. We are in business and not in circus.” That pissed me off. Not because it was Wrong; but, because it showed me something about Igor. Being unwilling to discuss any basics did not Set Well. It begins to look like a Cult or Church with Its own Bible. There is No Way but MY WAY is the Mantra that I cannot Accept and therefore I am not in the Group. The thing that Really pissed me off was being dismissed for asking a few questions. I accept the Brand, but I am not a malcontent. Expressing admiration and producing an Excel File that showed the History of the Structures, I was Rebuffed because I was holding off on buying the Book. I could not even get an acknowledgement that my Structure was the Same as Igor’s. I am pretty sure that it is; but, I don’t Care any more. I am not saying that I will not buy the Book. I just want to Brain Storm a little more and I’ll be honest, find out if there is Another Way.

In the coming days, I will have a few ideas to run by you all. I can not say for sure if these ideas are very similar to Igor’s; but based in his statements, I am probably not smart enough to think of anything that resembles his method. That being said, I am going to Stay on my own path. Any similarities will be pure coincidence as I have been assured by Igor, that my Ideas are in no way Similar (he might want to actually read what I sent as it appears that he only absorbed the Notion that I was a Contrarian).

For Now, I wish Igor and Mark and Company success. I Only hope that they do not ruin the Game by being to successful. Could you guys save a few games for the Rest of Us when you Crack Open the Game?

More to Come.

Allen, I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt. From my point of view, you were attempting to put your own spin on Igor's method, which is fine. The problem I had with you is your reluctance to speak in clear concise sentences. Sending me files I am not able to open also did us no good. Sending text in emails such as the one below only wasted time:

"I am the Kid that Got a New Model Statistical Drone. It started to hover by itself when I opened the box, so I just started flying it. There is an instruction manual for it's operation that is highly recommended; but, I don't want to land it just yet and start reading about how to fly. I am still not buying tickets, so if I crash will walk away without a scratch. Besides, how bad can it hurt when I am probably flying at 10% of the Limits of this New Drone. There are a lot of Crop Dusters where I Live. I always thought that Doing that would be a Thrill. So Bare With me. I don't know when I am going to land but It will be soon. I would guess that inclusion in your group would require one to have the Operating Manuel in order to participate. Assuming that is correct, then the maximum length of my first flight is in your hands"

All we wanted was for you you to speak to us in a point blank, apples to apples kind of way, but no, you always had to complicate things with your own cutesy spin on how the terminology should look and sound. Again, no problem if you want to re-write Igor's method to suit your needs, but Igor and I do not have the time nor the desire to stray away from what we are working on.

I am the one who spoke highly of you to Igor and suggested we have you join in with us on the journey. I now regret that decision, and it now appears you can't understand why we decided not to accept your input. In short, you were making things too complicated with your sometimes long winded cutesy spin on things. Your graphs and charts had my head spinning trying to understand your terminology as it applied to Igor's methods.

My time is very limited as I also have a full time business to run. I am for the most part, a quick, get to the point kind of guy. If you had read the book, you wouldn't have wasted time asking the questions as you did. Asking for more details or technical questions about the book is fine, but only after you have read the book first. All we needed was for you to get on the same page as us, but you refused. As you put it "I am not coming down before I get some Food or Poison". Well as I see it, you took our food and made it your poison.

No hard feelings here, and I hope you continue doing what you do here.

What goes around comes around.
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Jun 14, 2018, 12:20 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on Jun 14, 2018
Allen, I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt. From my point of view, you were attempting to put your own spin on Igor's method, which is fine. The problem I had with you is your reluctance to speak in clear concise sentences. Sending me files I am not able to open also did us no good. Sending text in emails such as the one below only wasted time:

"I am the Kid that Got a New Model Statistical Drone. It started to hover by itself when I opened the box, so I just started flying it. There is an instruction manual for it's operation that is highly recommended; but, I don't want to land it just yet and start reading about how to fly. I am still not buying tickets, so if I crash will walk away without a scratch. Besides, how bad can it hurt when I am probably flying at 10% of the Limits of this New Drone. There are a lot of Crop Dusters where I Live. I always thought that Doing that would be a Thrill. So Bare With me. I don't know when I am going to land but It will be soon. I would guess that inclusion in your group would require one to have the Operating Manuel in order to participate. Assuming that is correct, then the maximum length of my first flight is in your hands"

All we wanted was for you you to speak to us in a point blank, apples to apples kind of way, but no, you always had to complicate things with your own cutesy spin on how the terminology should look and sound. Again, no problem if you want to re-write Igor's method to suit your needs, but Igor and I do not have the time nor the desire to stray away from what we are working on.

I am the one who spoke highly of you to Igor and suggested we have you join in with us on the journey. I now regret that decision, and it now appears you can't understand why we decided not to accept your input. In short, you were making things too complicated with your sometimes long winded cutesy spin on things. Your graphs and charts had my head spinning trying to understand your terminology as it applied to Igor's methods.

My time is very limited as I also have a full time business to run. I am for the most part, a quick, get to the point kind of guy. If you had read the book, you wouldn't have wasted time asking the questions as you did. Asking for more details or technical questions about the book is fine, but only after you have read the book first. All we needed was for you to get on the same page as us, but you refused. As you put it "I am not coming down before I get some Food or Poison". Well as I see it, you took our food and made it your poison.

No hard feelings here, and I hope you continue doing what you do here.

Mark,

I am sorry if you find me Cute, and I will agree that I was All over the Place in some of the Early Emails that I sent. I tried to focus my thoughts in the Later Emails. Throughout the process I was just looking for confirmation that the Structures were the Same. I don't think you read anything other than my "Cute" Comments.

You are mistaken with regard to you distribution of Food. From my perspective, Food was Conditional on Buying the Book. To that End, I can not agree that I took the Food and Turned it into Poison because You and Igor withheld it. Im sorry if that is still a bit Cute.

At this point, I have found my own Food. It comes from what I have been able to observe about the 8 Game Cycle. There many thing to exploit from the Data. I just wanted to take some time to absorb it before Buying the Book.

At this point, I mildly disappointed. Both in myself and You and Igor; but, I am over it.

Good Luck to you both. I predict that you will achieve success. Not because I Know your Method, but because the Data is So Strong.

No Hard Feeling here. Somewhere down the Road we will Get to the Promised Land. I just won't be riding in Your Bus. Sorry, I guess you might be right. Aside from my appearance, maybe I am Cute.

Allen
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Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Jun 14, 2018
Mark,

I am sorry if you find me Cute, and I will agree that I was All over the Place in some of the Early Emails that I sent. I tried to focus my thoughts in the Later Emails. Throughout the process I was just looking for confirmation that the Structures were the Same. I don't think you read anything other than my "Cute" Comments.

You are mistaken with regard to you distribution of Food. From my perspective, Food was Conditional on Buying the Book. To that End, I can not agree that I took the Food and Turned it into Poison because You and Igor withheld it. Im sorry if that is still a bit Cute.

At this point, I have found my own Food. It comes from what I have been able to observe about the 8 Game Cycle. There many thing to exploit from the Data. I just wanted to take some time to absorb it before Buying the Book.

At this point, I mildly disappointed. Both in myself and You and Igor; but, I am over it.

Good Luck to you both. I predict that you will achieve success. Not because I Know your Method, but because the Data is So Strong.

No Hard Feeling here. Somewhere down the Road we will Get to the Promised Land. I just won't be riding in Your Bus. Sorry, I guess you might be right. Aside from my appearance, maybe I am Cute.

Allen

So we can part ways on a friendly basis. There is nothing wrong with being cutesy Allen, it just doesn't fit in this case. No need to be sorry, and don't change who you are just to please others. Stay the course and best of luck to you as well!

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Quote: Originally posted by Mr-B 216 on Jun 14, 2018
So we can part ways on a friendly basis. There is nothing wrong with being cutesy Allen, it just doesn't fit in this case. No need to be sorry, and don't change who you are just to please others. Stay the course and best of luck to you as well!

Absolutely!
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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on Jun 14, 2018
AllenB,you are one cool guy. Ignore everyone and concentrate on your own awesome stuff. Listen, it's been 2 months since that other thread started. Either it's a "winning" system or not. So far....~Crickets~ One split jackpot win...keep that in mind. Was it really because of a system or just dumb luck? When you hear of LP members actually winning real jackpots on a regular basis, then you might want to consider taking a look but until then I have faith in you and your talent. I'd love to see you concentrate more on Pick 3/4 games. Something tells me that's where you excel.

I agree!
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Jun 14, 2018, 6:27 pm

Mr. B216. I see you are getting caught up with this whole spiel about it being open to special people only and how this group is highly intelligent, exclusive, etc. Such sheep following their leader. You are sounding like a clone of that Igor guy.

By the way, I think you failed to understand the drone analogy and it was not cutesy at all.
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Jun 14, 2018, 6:37 pm

"When you hear of LP members actually winning real jackpots on a regular basis, then you might want to consider taking a look"

That is going to one long wait, as there is never going to be a method that produces jackpot wins on a regular basis, and I do not recall Igor ever saying his method would produce jackpots on a regular basis. He simply shared a method that worked for him.

The idea is to use his method, and then tweak it to suit your needs. If you do not get positive results from Igor's method, then move on to the next one. The Igor method is NOT for everyone.

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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on Jun 14, 2018
AllenB,you are one cool guy. Ignore everyone and concentrate on your own awesome stuff. Listen, it's been 2 months since that other thread started. Either it's a "winning" system or not. So far....~Crickets~ One split jackpot win...keep that in mind. Was it really because of a system or just dumb luck? When you hear of LP members actually winning real jackpots on a regular basis, then you might want to consider taking a look but until then I have faith in you and your talent. I'd love to see you concentrate more on Pick 3/4 games. Something tells me that's where you excel.

He's ok in my book also that wise guy Allen

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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Jun 14, 2018
Mr. B216. I see you are getting caught up with this whole spiel about it being open to special people only and how this group is highly intelligent, exclusive, etc. Such sheep following their leader. You are sounding like a clone of that Igor guy.

By the way, I think you failed to understand the drone analogy and it was not cutesy at all.

"By the way, I think you failed to understand the drone analogy and it was not cutesy at all.""

with all of his metaphors/fabled explanations to get a point across but effective

Very creative i think and maybe he should write a book about Jack in his Games..

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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on Jun 14, 2018
AllenB,you are one cool guy. Ignore everyone and concentrate on your own awesome stuff. Listen, it's been 2 months since that other thread started. Either it's a "winning" system or not. So far....~Crickets~ One split jackpot win...keep that in mind. Was it really because of a system or just dumb luck? When you hear of LP members actually winning real jackpots on a regular basis, then you might want to consider taking a look but until then I have faith in you and your talent. I'd love to see you concentrate more on Pick 3/4 games. Something tells me that's where you excel.

Lol LOL you the best, and You too Allen. I hope you overcome that obstacle and jump into great fortune. Good Luck.

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Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Jun 14, 2018
Lol LOL you the best, and You too Allen. I hope you overcome that obstacle and jump into great fortune. Good Luck.

LottoLaughs, Soledad, Guesswork and Artist77 Thank you for your Kind Words.

I think it is time for this Thread Fade into History.

Mark, No hard Feelings I hope the Ride is Going Well and that the Food is good.

I am going to continue by blog on the Idea using the same Basic Stuff that I am Talking about; but, I am Done here.

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