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Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 2:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Ro234 on Sep 15, 2019
S2S Strikes Again in N.Y.!

Boom!

SUN 9/15 MD 914....914Str Hit!😁

Let's keep the Vibe Alive!

Congrats to All winners!😁

And 149 Bx hit😁

Congrats to All winners
Lucky Loser

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Sep 15, 2019, 2:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Chicomon on Sep 15, 2019
Lucky, well that is the tricky part. I have been attempting to back test to look for a pattern. What I see is multiple pattern types. I have been attempting to identify, name and track the various parts of the work outs. We know the workouts will generate hits. Which ones and when, well isn't that the big unknown that every one is trying to figure out?

Yeah, see, this is my point exactly. What does a successful combo set compiled with a wager really look like? All the congrats for hits taking place in various states but, who's playing them? In the case of New York, Soledad and I are very good LP friends but, I've pressed him on this as well with no clear response yet. It's very easy to compile a set of numbers and just list them for reference but, it's a whole different ball game to do that along with how much money one is actually spending on those combos. I've personally witnessed such lists not producing anything and, in turn, there's no follow up nor any losses mentioned. But, when a list does manage to produce a hit or two, there's a breakdown on what combo hit and how it hit.

Once again, that's misleading when it comes to the finance part of it because those losses must be factored in when no hit(s) are seen. Just because a list produces a hit does not mean that money (profit) was actually made on that list at that time. I suppose that if a player simply cares about matching something regardless of these factors then, it's okay. If the idea is to win money and turn a profit, it would seem that all the numbers matter...at least to me. Since I've been with LP, I only know of one member that has has actually taken the time to put a pen to a list of numbers and properly illustrate a win/loss ratio with money...and that member is me. The list that I critiqued during that time didn't belong to me but, we wanted to show how wagering actually works because so many players ignore the losses while they applaud a win. It's just like running a business, you must account for money invested and lost just as when you turn a profit on an investment...after you've previously lost money. Everyone doesn't know how to balance books, though. I like reality.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

#lotto-4-a-living
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 2:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Sep 15, 2019
I've been peeping in on this, from time to time, and it seems very beneficial. However, the part(s) that I never see are how many of the combos are actually played if not all of them, how the combos are wagered (boxed/boxed+straight/anything), and the cost of the plays. Let's put a pen to it all and validate the efforts financially. This would be very exciting since there seems to be no concern about system duplication.

How profitable

25 numbers

50c &12.50 STR & Bx 914=250+40=$290.00

277.50 profit

1.00 25.00 STR & Bx 914=500+80..00=580.00

555.00 profit

Plus if u play online as I do and others here

IT'S more profitable if done right

Now Let's get Paid!😁
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 3:02 pm

Lucky I hear ya

I gave u a breakdown

Of how I played at the store today

And online as well

I play certain states daily or once in awhile with S2S,resets and 3ts

Sometimes at least twice a week I don't play N.Y.L but will play others states

Like tonight I won't play N.Y.

Wait on eve draws and begin Sun draws for various states and countries especially Jamaica

Lucky real talk most don't care about the WOs

they just want the winning number or numbers!

I'm cool with it
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 3:13 pm

FS Ga Eve Draws

071

559

071+559=630

071+559=530

071×559=36 689

36 689÷630=62 998

36 689÷530=74 884

630+36=666

630+62=692

630+74=704

630+689=131/319

630+998=162/628

630+884=151/514

530+36=566

530=62=592

530+74=604

530+689=121/219

530+998=152/528

530+884=141/414

Set of numbers

630 530 666 692 704 131 036 062 036 998 884 604 592 151

689 566 121 219 319 131 152 528 414 141 162 628 514
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 3:23 pm

FS Ohio Eve Draws

497

154

497+154=651

497+154=541

497×154=76. 538

76538÷651=117 569

76538÷541=141 475

651+76=727

651+117=768

651+538=118/189

651+141=792

651+475=112/126

651+569=122/220

541+76=617

541+117=658

541+538=107/079

541+141=682

541+569=111/110

541+475=101/016

Set of numbers

851 541 475 118 122 126 682 117 110 016

220 111 189 792 107 079 101 658 727 768
Soledad

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Sep 15, 2019, 3:52 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Sep 15, 2019
Yeah, see, this is my point exactly. What does a successful combo set compiled with a wager really look like? All the congrats for hits taking place in various states but, who's playing them? In the case of New York, Soledad and I are very good LP friends but, I've pressed him on this as well with no clear response yet. It's very easy to compile a set of numbers and just list them for reference but, it's a whole different ball game to do that along with how much money one is actually spending on those combos. I've personally witnessed such lists not producing anything and, in turn, there's no follow up nor any losses mentioned. But, when a list does manage to produce a hit or two, there's a breakdown on what combo hit and how it hit.

Once again, that's misleading when it comes to the finance part of it because those losses must be factored in when no hit(s) are seen. Just because a list produces a hit does not mean that money (profit) was actually made on that list at that time. I suppose that if a player simply cares about matching something regardless of these factors then, it's okay. If the idea is to win money and turn a profit, it would seem that all the numbers matter...at least to me. Since I've been with LP, I only know of one member that has has actually taken the time to put a pen to a list of numbers and properly illustrate a win/loss ratio with money...and that member is me. The list that I critiqued during that time didn't belong to me but, we wanted to show how wagering actually works because so many players ignore the losses while they applaud a win. It's just like running a business, you must account for money invested and lost just as when you turn a profit on an investment...after you've previously lost money. Everyone doesn't know how to balance books, though. I like reality.

Hey LL,

My friends are mostly jibaros from the mountains, so yeah I acknowledge what you are saying as very real ok. Most don’t think of it, what they lose. They just think they’ll win on the next one, and yeah yeah cost vs winnings, does it balance out? Usually not. But, I do at times drop info on your point. Example,

when I started playing like this I would wait until Saturday to play. And I would play 1 number. The final result. That’s the way I saw this happening, I didn’t think anything else to it. Then, RL nicely gave his program and showed exactly how many hits and when the hits occurred (based on a 10 game factor only) and I saw that the hits really occurred all over the place. And then Ro234 gave his take on it and noticed some other things as well. And now the 1 number idea has turned into a lot more. So your point is an important one to consider.

But take my first thought with this, of only playing one number on Saturday. I put this topic up after 542 on Feb 23rd this year. There’s that Saturday hit. So if you just take this idea of playing that one number on Saturday, well you would’ve had to wait 22 weeks ok for the next one, which was 846 on 7/27 this year. Ok 22 weeks a bit of time to wait, but 1 number for two drawings once a week? The profit is simple to see. And the losses, not that much.

So yeah, everybody bets their own way, I get that. There are of course ways to tweak this system. And it’s been shown. Personally I don’t believe in betting a lot daily , but I can’t really tell you what to play or how much to play. RL’s program and data, yeah of course overall it’s not gonna show a profit , but it does show that the hits are there and how many. No system overall just taken on blind faith will ever show a profit in the end. It’s just the way it is. We both know that.

Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.

Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 3:59 pm

FS Eve Draws TX

524

031

524+031=555

555+016=571

555+029=584

555+244=799

555+268=823

16+244=260

16+268=284

29+268=297

244+268=512

29+244=273

16+29=045

Set of numbers

555 571 260 584 799 823

284 512 297 045 273 244
Soledad

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Sep 15, 2019, 4:05 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Ro234 on Sep 15, 2019
Lucky I hear ya

I gave u a breakdown

Of how I played at the store today

And online as well

I play certain states daily or once in awhile with S2S,resets and 3ts

Sometimes at least twice a week I don't play N.Y.L but will play others states

Like tonight I won't play N.Y.

Wait on eve draws and begin Sun draws for various states and countries especially Jamaica

Lucky real talk most don't care about the WOs

they just want the winning number or numbers!

I'm cool with it

This is true- lol

Its cool that you can keep so many different states together, I have trouble looking at a lot of states eventually.

Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.

Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 4:10 pm

TN FS Eve Draws

706

435

706+435=1141

706+435=1131

706×435=307 110

307110÷1141=269 158

307110÷1131=271 538

141+307=448

141+110=251

141+269=410

141+158=299

141+271=412

141+538=679

131+307=438

131+110=241

131+269=400

131+141=272

131+271=402

Set of numbers

114 141 113 131 307 110 269 158 271 538 448

251 241 410 400 272 412 402 679 299 438
Soledad

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Sep 15, 2019, 4:22 pm

NC should get a double draw tonight I believe. It’s been 6 since the last one.

Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.

Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.
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Sep 15, 2019, 4:43 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Sep 15, 2019
NC should get a double draw tonight I believe. It’s been 6 since the last one.

Hi Soledad..
So I'm trying to get this.. with my math last week Did not this week work did I do it right...
Last sun.. 790 + 269 = 1059
790 + 269 LM =959
790�269�1059 =200
200+959 LM = 159

Thanks from Fla,
Pil

I Can; #seethemoneycomeinourway
Lucky Loser

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Sep 15, 2019, 4:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Ro234 on Sep 15, 2019
How profitable

25 numbers

50c &12.50 STR & Bx 914=250+40=$290.00

277.50 profit

1.00 25.00 STR & Bx 914=500+80..00=580.00

555.00 profit

Plus if u play online as I do and others here

IT'S more profitable if done right

Now Let's get Paid!😁

Thanks for the clarity here. I wasn't trying to exploit the system, poke at you, or anything like that. I just like to see all the numbers involved including the cost of how the said player is wagering because it establishes a reality in terms of both the finances and viability of the system. So many people are mislead thinking that they can just win and the losses don't matter. In fact, the example here is an optimal one in that a straight hit is realized which is great! Congrats! However, whether or not someone actually played that entire list in order to capture that hit is the question. A baseline profit here would be $27.50 @ $.50 for a box hit and $55.00 @ $1.00 on a single midday play. This is where I'd start because each time that a box hit is missed, that's $12.50 that must be made up somewhere along the way...$1.00 applies accordingly.

As such, $25.00/day for both midday and night plays @ $.50/number. Let's hope that the player hits boxed within (3) total plays which would cost $37.50 because the payout is $40.00 which is the most likely hit...net profit of $2.50 with the previous cost recovery factored in as well. A straight puts the player way ahead as noted by you but, I have to go with the most likely type of hit as a baseline. Overall, I'd say very nice because any profit and/or recovery is better than a loss every time! The ability to keep your money in your pocket and replay the same money enroute to a profit is where it's at! However, if ALL players could do this then, we'd have no losers to pay the winners...END GAME. I think we're safe, though.......

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

#lotto-4-a-living
Ro234

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Sep 15, 2019, 5:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Sep 15, 2019
Thanks for the clarity here. I wasn't trying to exploit the system, poke at you, or anything like that. I just like to see all the numbers involved including the cost of how the said player is wagering because it establishes a reality in terms of both the finances and viability of the system. So many people are mislead thinking that they can just win and the losses don't matter. In fact, the example here is an optimal one in that a straight hit is realized which is great! Congrats! However, whether or not someone actually played that entire list in order to capture that hit is the question. A baseline profit here would be $27.50 @ $.50 for a box hit and $55.00 @ $1.00 on a single midday play. This is where I'd start because each time that a box hit is missed, that's $12.50 that must be made up somewhere along the way...$1.00 applies accordingly.

As such, $25.00/day for both midday and night plays @ $.50/number. Let's hope that the player hits boxed within (3) total plays which would cost $37.50 because the payout is $40.00 which is the most likely hit...net profit of $2.50 with the previous cost recovery factored in as well. A straight puts the player way ahead as noted by you but, I have to go with the most likely type of hit as a baseline. Overall, I'd say very nice because any profit and/or recovery is better than a loss every time! The ability to keep your money in your pocket and replay the same money enroute to a profit is where it's at! However, if ALL players could do this then, we'd have no losers to pay the winners...END GAME. I think we're safe, though.......

Hey Lucky ..No problem MON

Its all good

Chicoman does his breakdown as well on cost ,losses and profit

Lucky I also know that many who come to S2S don't play all of the numbers in a set

I've learn how people get caught up in pet numbers or have so called favorite numbers

Not me

I work only with the actual draws

My thinking is my favorite numbers are the ones that drop that I play!

I Expect to Hit!

Real talk

Let's get Paid!😁
Soledad

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Sep 15, 2019, 5:32 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Pildriver on Sep 15, 2019
Hi Soledad..
So I'm trying to get this.. with my math last week Did not this week work did I do it right...
Last sun.. 790 + 269 = 1059
790 + 269 LM =959
790�269�1059 =200
200+959 LM = 159

Thanks from Fla,
Pil

Yes that’s correct. I have to add Tuesday and Wednesday’s evening draws though, thanks to Ro.

Look,

Tues. eve / Weds. eve

929 / 515

929

+515

=1444

So, 929x515=478,435.

478,435 / 1444 = 331.

And then,

331+929=250. 250+515=765.

You see that 765 popping up as 675 on Thursday evening.

Nice Ro234! Real nice.

Easy to calculate- $2=$80.

Just gotta have faith.

Sundays and tues/weds(eve) are turning out to be very nice. Watch them in particular.

Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.

Life's a game of mathematics, if you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.

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