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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jan 5, 2020
Hey Greenfox,
Things are ok here. Mama is still working toward getting better.
I get a laugh out of folks like Stat and their conspiracy stuff.
Something I do with games like Texas 2 Step, and Cash 5 which is here in Texas is eliminate numbers. BobP had an idea in which you can wipe a lot of combinations off the board simply by not playing the numbers that were drawn in the previous draw. Does it work every time. Of course not. But it's a strategy better than QP's. I take that a step further by playing all even, or all odd numbers, which occasionally will be drawn. It's simple, and doesn't require any kind of programming or computer work, which way over my head, LOL.
Good luck!
Good good! Still praying for ya here!
I used to research that stuff years ago. Just got so tired of worrying and thinking about it. It's gonna be what it's gonna be so no point in it. Not going to go crazy worrying over what they're going to do.
I can't really see another way of actually making it happen without elimination. Some sort of or sorts of ways to make it happen. Just too many number option per pick without reducing options.
Even as you're talking of playing all even or all odd is setting a trap for a win. You're reducing your options by half, around about, that way and it will hit so. It it still better than QP's in my opinion.
You can do whatever you set your mind to there. Not real hard to use excel. Once you get the basics down. I don't know much about it myself either, but I try. Nowhere near as skilled as some of the other programmers like winsum, Jade and the others. I just cobble together what I need to work as best I can and had a lot of help from people that do know. Nothing wrong with asking how to do something.
Best of luck to you and yours also and get that little lady back to great!
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Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Jan 5, 2020
Hey, Green Fox...!
No, I wasn't saying that your cookies may have been read,.. I was saying that they may have read MY cookies when I visited their website...
That's why I mentioned that I had been researching "positional" number strategies..1st time doing so..
... Notice that the 1/4/2020 PB drawing were all from "cold numbers"...plus a 1.9 difference in the Average..!!.. Yea,.. they were running..!!
-Stat$talker
What's up Stat,
Oh. I gotya now. You was using "read" as in reed and not red? That and the "your" and "you" kinda threw me off. Words are just weird sometimes. When you can't hear the pronunciation that is.
Positional, from what I've seen is the way to go. Finding what positions work the best is the trick.
You just keep on chasing them. You'll catch up to em. I've ran enough in my time and just gonna let them come to me now. Gives me more time to do other things that need done. It's like setting there in the woods waiting on that deer to come out as opposed to running thru the woods trying to find one? You can get a much better shot and a much clearer one setting there than you can runnin and shootin. And deer are fast. Badly skittish also. Chances of actually catching one to get a bead on making all that noise is difficult. Plus you have the energy to drag it out the woods to get it in the pan when waiting. No, I don't hunt. LOL. Fish now? Setting there on the boat, casting out to see what hits, then dragging it in when it does. Enjoying the sunshine and cool lake breeze. Makes for a nice peaceful, no stress day.
All a metaphor of course. But I do like fishing. :)
Good luck to ya Stat!
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Hello AB,
That's what I'm talking about. Exactly. By setting a guideline of what would be really useful for an excellent chance of that win. Preferably THOSE wins. A standard that could or would be set for a starting point to go off of. If everyone could agree on what that standard was, then we would all know if what we was doing was worthwhile to begin with or just a waste of time. I hate wasting time. It's like looking for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. The closer you get to the end of it, the more it moves away. But if you set up a small showering system and a little lighting, you can see that rainbow wherever you want to. It's not God's rainbow, and there may not be a pot of gold there, but it's still pretty to look at.
I'm only looking at the most discernible data to even start with. I know now, that the 49 was the smallest number for the PB in 4 years, but that's 384 draws. If that's a full four years. Might happen again next draw, BUT chances are it isn't going to. Probably won't happen for at least another 3 to 4 years. If it happens 10 times this year alone, that's still 86 draws on the PB that it's not going to happen. Say 39 happens 10 times as the smallest. You've still got 76 draws that it won't be either. Even 29 would be 66 draws that you could focus on 1-28 or whatever you choose to. If you're picking 49 as the smallest pick and playing that set every draw, with the chances from historically looking, you pretty much had one shot in 4 years. When you could have had at least 86 by starting smaller. Getting back to my fishing story. If you're on the lake trying to catch a fish. Say you're over next to the bank where there's a downed tree in the water. You're probably going to be using a rubber worm so you don't get hung up and probably lose your bait. You throw a double treble crank bait in that mess, you're probably going to get hung up and lose it. Or you're going swimming to retrieve it. The you're left with less options to use out in the open water. Unless you're just an expert caster and you can lay that plug right up to the edge of the limbs and work him back. The other problem with crank baits near debris is, fish are visual predators for the most part and most artificial bait has not smell. Say you get that bait right up close and the fish has his back to it and is further in the limbs. Does he even know it's there? Use what works best in whatever environment.
To me, the games change each draw. So, shouldn't our methods change to adapt? I was thinking late last night about how I "set" the percentages to a set amount that happens over and over for each draw. That was what I was using to determine my start off position. The problem with that is, the more numbers that are drawn, that percentage may be low the next game. Or even 10 future games it could be off. And it would. I have tested near 5,000 draws at 4 different set percentages to get my data for the cash 5 from. That was a LOT of work to do and was done manually so it was a lot of time. I have a real good idea of where to set them as far as the set percentage, but the changes. The changes when each new draw was inserted was all checked at against a fixed position. By allowing the percentages to change and flow with the draw, it would be keeping par with the process of more data as it goes. Giving more truer results. The thing about doing the same thing over and over is, you get good at doing that one thing. If one thing would beat these games, it would have been done by now. If we can build whatever system we are trying to adapt to past changes, it will adapt to future ones also. I can't say that the past 10 draws fist pick was odd or each was larger than the previous so the next will be even or smaller. But maybe I can find out how many times before what happened in that circumstance and have it adapt to tell me that data. If it did change 4 out of 5 times, I would say yes, even or larger.
Whatever we create to help give us an idea of what to do next has to adapt and change to the new data. If it's not adapting to change, it's giving the same ole same ole over and over again. We're just chasing our tail and not even noticing the light has turned green. So I need to change those fixed percentages so that they adapt to new data and still do what they do as it goes along. Changing how it thinks but retaining it's knowledge of what it does. I think that maybe most of our systems are doing the same thing over and over. When they do work, it's the clock is always right twice a day syndrome. The rest of the time, it's not going to produce though.
Thanks for the reply and insight AB! I had to put my glasses on to read it though. LOL. Could hardly see it. Just picking at ya man. Put it out there so it can be seen I say.
Best of luck to you!
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Quote: Originally posted by aquariuslottery on Jan 5, 2020
I'm looking to put in the draws and it spit out only the winners.
That's what everybody is looking for, whether on LP or not. I haven't heard about anybody finding such a method and personally consider this a dreamland territory. Nothing wrong with dreaming but do not take it as reality.
A couple of axioms I believe relate to lotteries:
1) No system, no matter how promising, wins forever.
2) No system looses forever, either.
3) Therefore you have to look at many systems at the same time to see what category they belong to. You will need computerized tools to do that (a task for lottery software designers). These tools have to include backtracks for the most recent past and a mechanism for evaluating near future winning probabilities for each system using THE SAME measurement method.
4) Whatever system you use look not at HOW it selects your numbers but WHAT it selects and how these selections relate to the newest trends in your lottery. Apply 4) to see where you are heading from and where you are possibly going to.
5) Treat all future projections only as PROBABILITIES not GUARANTEES. Not winning should not be a reason for whining but a motivation for improvements or refinements.
And that's my point of view on lottery (any lottery) principles.
Hi aquariuslottery,
Ain't it though? I'd say none of us will actually hear of it if it did happen. I've not really gave out any info other than some stats. Not going to either. And we all have to dream about something. For me, it's just achieving a goal of completion and results.
1) Correct. I kind of got into this in my last post. I'm willing to bet that most all systems do the same thing/s over and over. I think that's why they work, then they don't. We're doing the same thing for 3,500 draws as we did for 300. The numbers change with each new draw. Stats change because of this. Parameters do also. What we build doesn't change to accept those changes so it's stuck. Stuck on picking up what happened on certain draws because that's where we saw the best results at. Making it adapt to the new changes and still keep doing what it was when it did produce should fix that so it isn't stuck in clock is right twice a day syndrome.
2) Exactly correct. We build a system and will see winning results from time to time. That old saying about a blind squirrel. It's true.
3) Correct and check. Got the computer and the software. It not only backtracks up to 7,000 draws, (at the moment), it also does near past and you're set up for each new draw with what works for all the previous draws. As I stated before. Out of 64 possible subsets where the winning number could show up, I know with certainty that the 3rd and 4th pick, in numeric order happens in one of 4 spots nearly 100% of the time. It's actually right at 95%, but that's close enough for me to know to look there for those picks. That is around 95% out of near 5,000 draws. (I had stated there was 128 subsets on my other post, but it's actually 64 possible for starters. 64 subsets per pick. Not 128. Pretty sure on that. Haven't looked at those stats since refining, but it's one or the other. Those pick positions are cut down drastically either way because most never happens or so rarely does happen, they're not worth tracking.) Just dawned on me and don't want to knowingly or unknowingly lie about anything.
4) Correct again. You have to know how to set it up to know how it works is the only thing I see different. You most definitely have to know what it picks. More importantly I've found is where it does that picking. If you know how it's doing what it does, why it's doing it, what it is doing and you can get close. If you know where it's doing it though, you do know where to look to make it pick and/or pick yourself. Depending on your programming abilities. Mine aren't that great to be honest. I just dabble.
5) Correct again. With a slight difference in opinion. Not all probabilities are guaranteed. On the other hand, I've had many many MANY times where I knew exactly what a parameter was going to do. It's almost always right on the money. If I know something is going to happen and listen to what it tells me to do, it's never wrong. And that happens every draw that I see spots that I know are going to do something. The way I have this set up, I can have one of those, know what is going to happen spots show up, I can put that data in and cut my options down from 8 to 14 to 1 to half and have the winning number as an option or just have the winning number. Providing that winning number is in my starting group to begin with. Stats are on that on my other post. First pick for 3 years is around 76% of the time it's there. And if anyone is whining on not winning the lottery, lol, they're going to have a rough, rough life. As many times as I've wanted to give up on many things, I can't. It's just not in me. It might be easier that way, but, what happens next? What happens without trying? Nothing.
Thank you much for the reply and input!
Best of luck to you aquariuslottery!
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Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on Jan 3, 2020
Hey cotton,
It's similar to that but not really related to that post. The way I've got this worked out, there will be times that there is the same digits in other picks options, but it lays it out that you have to reach up the ladder for the next highest rung to get to the next step. It's basically just an idea of what results would really make one take a completely serious look with a knowing that something was really working as it should. To me, in my mind, cutting down to around 10 options to start with is cutting out about 80% or better, average of course, of the options before further filtering down to the winners is not bad I guess, but I don't really know. With my mind, you have to figure in the "have to have perfection" into my question, but I'm looking for honest answers that I can average out to tune with and see just how good, or bad this is really doing or can do. I know the odds stated, but I know the minds here also. I already know the odd are wrong and stated compared to the most extreme conditions. With the minds that ARE on the site, I know the answers will be more honest than the odds provided.
Thank you very much for your input.
I don't claim to be a math genius, but the odds posted on all the lottery sites are the real odds, assuming the lottery is random. There are no secret hidden "real" odds unless the lottery is rigged or very nonrandom. Yeah there are cases of bad RNG programming, but they aren't the norm. If you're thinking the lottery is nonrandom, how did it get that way? Unevenly weighted balls, bad RNG programming, tampering?
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Quote: Originally posted by lottologix on Jan 3, 2020
While I a not a huge fan of the BIG lotteries since PB & MM whent to 2 bucks per play. I find that if you look at the last 15 plays you will find all or most of the 5 digits without power or mega ball will show up in the next play. All 5 digits seem to come out about 35 ish percent of the time. Of the number that seem to actually come out in the next game alot of the time seem to be numbers that only came out 1 time in the last 15 games. I use Lottery stastic analyser to show a lexigraphical order where you can see what position the numbers are most likley to come out in. From there I would compare the digits selected to the numbers in the complete history (atleast since the last date that the numbers in the game have changed) as those sequence of digits are not likely to come out again in our life times or until the lottery officials change the number of balls in the game again. From there you could look at the association strengths of the numbers left to play. Basically thats another thing I look at in pick 3 where you look at the frequency of pairs where lets say you have 05 box pair as the strongest pair from my pool of numbers, then I look at the next strongest box pair that started with a 5. This idea seems to hold true for the cash 5 game atleast in my state. This is how I create sets to play. Hope this helps
I do something similar but not with software. I eyeball the past dozen draws to pick out four numbers that were drawn and then I pick a fifth that wasn't drawn in that time frame.
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Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Jan 8, 2020
I don't claim to be a math genius, but the odds posted on all the lottery sites are the real odds, assuming the lottery is random. There are no secret hidden "real" odds unless the lottery is rigged or very nonrandom. Yeah there are cases of bad RNG programming, but they aren't the norm. If you're thinking the lottery is nonrandom, how did it get that way? Unevenly weighted balls, bad RNG programming, tampering?
They are the real odds, yes. But they are odds that include quick pick sales. Most tickets are quick picks. You also have the ones that play 1,2,3,4,5 and the likes. Can you guess how many tickets are played with those numbers? Maybe do a little research and see. It's many.
Just a little bit of thinking though and a whole lot of work, and those odds will drop. I guarantee it. Seen it.
Random is what random is. Maybe life it's self isn't so random? How do you think that many things out there got created and made happen? There's many many ideas that people was told they was crazy for thinking. Until they made them reality. Random or not, I've seen enough through years of working on this, that it is possible.
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Quote: Originally posted by Greenfox on Jan 8, 2020
They are the real odds, yes. But they are odds that include quick pick sales. Most tickets are quick picks. You also have the ones that play 1,2,3,4,5 and the likes. Can you guess how many tickets are played with those numbers? Maybe do a little research and see. It's many.
Just a little bit of thinking though and a whole lot of work, and those odds will drop. I guarantee it. Seen it.
Random is what random is. Maybe life it's self isn't so random? How do you think that many things out there got created and made happen? There's many many ideas that people was told they was crazy for thinking. Until they made them reality. Random or not, I've seen enough through years of working on this, that it is possible.
We'll have to agree to disagree because I don't believe the numbers that other people choose to play have any effect on the numbers the lottery draws. If you play 1,2,3,4,5 and that's the numbers the lottery happens to draw, then yeah you will be sharing the jackpot with tons of people. But your odds of winning with 1,2,3,4,5 are the same as yourbodds of winning with 2,14,23,24,45. They both have the same chance of coming out of the machine. Good luck to you in any case.
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Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Jan 8, 2020
We'll have to agree to disagree because I don't believe the numbers that other people choose to play have any effect on the numbers the lottery draws. If you play 1,2,3,4,5 and that's the numbers the lottery happens to draw, then yeah you will be sharing the jackpot with tons of people. But your odds of winning with 1,2,3,4,5 are the same as yourbodds of winning with 2,14,23,24,45. They both have the same chance of coming out of the machine. Good luck to you in any case.
The numbers that others play do not have an effect on what they draw. That is correct. 1,2,3,4,5 does have the exact same chance as all the others do of course. It has been close to that and probably has happened somewhere. I don't have time to track every draw, but know it has been close. If and when it does happen though, the only ones that will win with it will be the ones that played those numbers, just because. LOL. Not many systems players will ever see that come up in a workout and actually play them though. Not many I'll say. With these large games, if you look though, you will see sets that repeat the same numbers with a 3 of 5 and even a 4 of 5. You'll be real hard pressed to find numerous repeat 5 of 5's though. True true random should be all possibilities shouldn't it? Wouldn't it be possible that a 5 of 5 repeated back to back with the exact same numbers? It is possible, but the odds are way higher than what they post for a jackpot. Why? I can't say that I know. Wish I did. Same thing as 1,2,3,4,5. Only different.
Best of luck to you there also.
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What you thought is exactly correct. Lotto commissions can scan the numbers picked for a combination that no one has picked or very low frequency to appear. Lucky numbers for example never ever show up except one or two per drawing. For that matter, unlucky numbers. The reason I say this is noting how many times the draw results are not announced until hours after the draw time.
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I Remember back when California first started it's Lottery. I was working for a developer at the time and the Lottery was looking to lease a space in an industrial building for Office Space and a Stage Set where they conducted a Live Draw before a Studio Audience. There was no opportunity for the Lottery to sort out a combination of it's Choice. I don't recall any problems but, I might be wrong.
Over Time the Lottery began to block independent observation. The kind you can Trust where anyone can watch. They Replaced the Live Draw with a Video and claimed that some independents monitored the result. The kind of motoring that you Should Not Trust.
No matter how you look at it, the Lottery has increased it's ability to hide things from us and given us no choice but to accept it. I blame the Lottery Industry and the companies that operate the games for the states. They realized that as the Jackpot got larger, the sales increased and so did their profits (the State and the Lottery companies.) Hiding like the Rats that they probably are, there is no telling what they do in that hour after the draw.
If this is happening, All we can hope for is, they at least are honest when they decide to let someone win.
