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Do you think it's time for a PB / MM merger?

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[ 33.3% ]

[ 8 ]

[ 66.7% ]

Total valid votes

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Eagle Sun

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Jan 30, 2020, 9:29 am

Two is too many.

It's it time for a Single National Lottery?

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Cmoore50

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Jan 30, 2020, 9:33 am

No way that will happen. Greed alone will squash that.
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Eagle Sun

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Jan 30, 2020, 9:41 am

I dunno, looks like the Greedy Side Economic Financial Plan has caused one of these lottery's jackpot run to grow at a snail's pace.

The $2.00 a line price hasn't grown jackpots like it was supposed to.

The $8.00 to $12.00 a line per week is cutting hard in to people's hard earned dollars.

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Eagle Sun

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Jan 30, 2020, 9:53 am

Given a choice, based on what we've seen in jackpot growth and payouts, it seem in our opinion,
if one of these is to succeed as the Top Dog, we'd choose MM.

Although, we'd really like to see an improvement in non-jackpot payouts.

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db101

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Jan 30, 2020, 11:08 am

Or they could merge the white ball sets and the red ball sets and make it a 5-of-139 + 1-of-51 game with odds of 1 in 20.5 billion. Combine two sh***y odds games into one sh***ier odds game. Personally I wouldn't affect me much as I only buy about a dozen lines of PB and MM in a year. I'd rather see a game with better odds like Lotto America rolled out to all the states.

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Jan 30, 2020, 12:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Jan 30, 2020

Or they could merge the white ball sets and the red ball sets and make it a 5-of-139 + 1-of-51 game with odds of 1 in 20.5 billion. Combine two sh***y odds games into one sh***ier odds game. Personally I wouldn't affect me much as I only buy about a dozen lines of PB and MM in a year. I'd rather see a game with better odds like Lotto America rolled out to all the states.

Oo,gees...

Power Billions Odds
·		Wowerball
·		1	0
Black Balls	5	1 in 20,505,769,002.0000	1 in 410,115,380.0400
	4	1 in 30,605,625.3761	1 in 612,112.5075
	3	1 in 230,117.4840	1 in 4,602.3497
	2	1 in 5,229.9428	1 in 104.5989
	1	1 in 319.3858	1 in 6.3877
	0	1 in 61.4204	1 in 1.2284

But, the payouts would remain the same, 'cause you know, that Greedy Side Economics plays its role.

Match	Odds	Prize
5 + 1	1 in 20,505,769,002.0000	Jackpot
5 + 0	1 in 410,115,380.0400	$1,000,000
4 + 1	1 in 30,605,625.3761	$50,000
4 + 0	1 in 612,112.5075	$100
3 + 1	1 in 230,117.4840	$100
3 + 0	1 in 4,602.3497	$7
2 + 1	1 in 5,229.9428	$7
1 + 1	1 in 319.3858	$4
0 + 1	1 in 61.4204	$4

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cottoneyedjoe

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Jan 30, 2020, 6:12 pm

Then they'll roll out a parallel game with 140 white balls and 50 red balls. I'll leave the odds/payout table to JADELottery. I propose the names "Lazyball" and "Mega Billions" as it will take forever for either game to produce a winner and when they do it will be billions.
GoogilyMoogily

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Jan 30, 2020, 8:33 pm

20 billion to 1 odds?

visualize a 20 billion sq ft room: that would be a room 27 miles square (choosing the correct 1 sq ft tile to stand on would be so easy peasy )

i predict if 20 billion to 1 odds ever happens, governments will end up playing!

you are quite correct that $2 plays are wrong
RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Feb 1, 2020, 10:30 am

Competition is always good, it keeps the playing field level. If they do merge then I suspect

it would not be long until another similar game popped up and we would be back where we

started with even larger odds. I wonder what the starting jackpot would be for such a game.

At some point there would need to be a rolldown as jackpots could reach a trillion dollars.

I myself would like to see something like a national 5-35 without bonus ball. Daily ticket sales

might reach 50 million. Payouts at 50% of sales and wins are tax free. Run the drawing every

morning at 9:00 am, tons of winners and a lot of excitement. This would be a game I would

go for.

RL

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC

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Feb 1, 2020, 10:33 am

If they do merge than I have the perfect name for the game, "Lotto-Impossible."

RL

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Feb 5, 2020, 6:50 am

Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 1, 2020
Competition is always good, it keeps the playing field level. If they do merge then I suspect

it would not be long until another similar game popped up and we would be back where we

started with even larger odds. I wonder what the starting jackpot would be for such a game.

At some point there would need to be a rolldown as jackpots could reach a trillion dollars.

I myself would like to see something like a national 5-35 without bonus ball. Daily ticket sales

might reach 50 million. Payouts at 50% of sales and wins are tax free. Run the drawing every

morning at 9:00 am, tons of winners and a lot of excitement. This would be a game I would

go for.

RL

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cottoneyedjoe

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Feb 5, 2020, 7:38 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stat$talker on Feb 5, 2020
Never fear... Math is here..!!

If it has a finite pool, then Probability Math can always conquer it..!!

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I see you stopped posting your predictions. Have you lost faith in Probability Math?
LottoBux

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Feb 9, 2020, 4:04 am

Quote: Originally posted by cottoneyedjoe on Jan 30, 2020
Then they'll roll out a parallel game with 140 white balls and 50 red balls. I'll leave the odds/payout table to JADELottery. I propose the names "Lazyball" and "Mega Billions" as it will take forever for either game to produce a winner and when they do it will be billions.

Joe

I Love Those New Proposed "Lazyball" And "Mega Billions" Names.
Stat$talker

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Feb 19, 2020, 12:15 am

Quote: Originally posted by cottoneyedjoe on Feb 5, 2020
I see you stopped posting your predictions. Have you lost faith in Probability Math?

Absolutely NOT... I've been busy "$talkin"...

When I emerge from hibernation, all will know...!!

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...MATH... The final Stochastic frontier...

These are the Lottery Voyages of Stat$talker..!!

The ongoing Mission,..to seek out the Laws of "Probability Math"...

to master its rules to invoke...to Conquer ALL Major Jackpots..!!

...To boldly go,... Where NO Player has gone before...!!

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