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• Soledad

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Mostoff on Oct 6, 2020

  First you need to define your Cartesian dimension, 2 dimensions? 3 dimensions?

  Then you create a matrix with 2 or 3 dimensions.

  After, allocate the numbers to an initially position within the matrix and according to the draws move them to a new position.

  For example in a lottery with 5 out of 50, you could attribute the first 5 positions to the current draw, and the numbers of the previous draw would go to the previous position occupied by the present draw numbers.

  The statistic analysis could focus on different perspectives:

  1-Consider how many times a number in the current position was a hit and use it to forecast if it will be a hit or not.

  2- Consider the current positions and count how many times they produced a hit, also could include the timeline and delay of the hits, and see if the current position is a good candidate to produce the next hit.

  I have tried this approach, and what happens is that the distribution of the position/hits is too big to give a good forecast.

  The approach that I used to reduce this distribution is by adding to the normal draw/position dynamics an induced dynamic.

  So the numbers have their position  changed by the draw and in addition I add more changes in the number positions after each draw. The target is to concentrate the probability of the hits in the less number of positions as possible.

  I didn't explore this approach much further and I went through other ways, but someone might try it and bring it to a good term.

  The most promising approaches, in my opinion, should take into account the dynamics of the system.

  Remember simple math. Directions in things not proven can go many ways. Simple math will show you an out door.

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• Mostoff

  

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  Yes I agree to that point. Everything that is complicated does not express the really truth... it's just an approach.

  The problem here is that the rules of simple math , even so simple, make it very difficult to find which ones work!

  This makes me remember the Theta method and how a simple method won the M3 forecasting world competition against much more difficult and complicated methods.
• LuckyCharmz

  

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  I tried that all none work. It's about luck two days ago I won $100 scratch off ticket_{, the next day didn't win but that's ok.}

  _{When I get lucky again I play another scratch off and win.}
• GuesssWork

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Mostoff on Oct 6, 2020

  First you need to define your Cartesian dimension, 2 dimensions? 3 dimensions?

  Then you create a matrix with 2 or 3 dimensions.

  After, allocate the numbers to an initially position within the matrix and according to the draws move them to a new position.

  For example in a lottery with 5 out of 50, you could attribute the first 5 positions to the current draw, and the numbers of the previous draw would go to the previous position occupied by the present draw numbers.

  The statistic analysis could focus on different perspectives:

  1-Consider how many times a number in the current position was a hit and use it to forecast if it will be a hit or not.

  2- Consider the current positions and count how many times they produced a hit, also could include the timeline and delay of the hits, and see if the current position is a good candidate to produce the next hit.

  I have tried this approach, and what happens is that the distribution of the position/hits is too big to give a good forecast.

  The approach that I used to reduce this distribution is by adding to the normal draw/position dynamics an induced dynamic.

  So the numbers have their position  changed by the draw and in addition I add more changes in the number positions after each draw. The target is to concentrate the probability of the hits in the less number of positions as possible.

  I didn't explore this approach much further and I went through other ways, but someone might try it and bring it to a good term.

  The most promising approaches, in my opinion, should take into account the dynamics of the system.

  Good grieve someone actually understands what the doc is talking about. wow, interesting indeed. Almost all others think the guy is a wack job but it seems he's not as Dull as others think  .. I'm even shocked that now one has tried to break the language barrier and work with the guy on one of his ideas being that i have seen countless programmers on here over the years help others with ideas that lead to wasted time spent. heck why not try some of the crazy guy's approaches. sometimes the crazies may know more than the sane ... I would have tried to help but i'm an infant when it comes to excel and the language barrier is immense lol. This is coming from a layman but there are super intelligent folks here that just look past everything that the doc says and i know he has alot to say and seems to be all over the place, But the ideas are staggering coming from the doc just need to probably iron them out. 

  The statistic analysis could focus on different perspectives:

  1-Consider how many times a number in the current position was a hit and use it to forecast if it will be a hit or not.

  2- Consider the current positions and count how many times they produced a hit, also could include the timeline and delay of the hits, and see if the current position is a good candidate to produce the next hit.

  The approach that I used to reduce this distribution is by adding to the normal draw/position dynamics an induced dynamic. 

  The most promising approaches, in my opinion, should take into account the dynamics of the system. 

  So in a nut shell what you discovered highlighted above is similar to what i have discovered for daily p3 games even though i don't play them, only on paper.. The dynamics are too unruly, that being, "random", but every now and again i will tweak the paper/excel system that has been a work in progress for over 3 years now. Very promising indeed and very simple and it seems will work in the jackpot games knowing what you just revealed is what i'm doing in the daily3. 

  It has to difficult to assemble such a methodology but once done will be so simple even a 12 year old could look at it and apply it. If it's not then it makes for looking for a needle in a haystack when it comes to a methodology to win consistently. alot of hard work at first but in the end it has to be simple, so simple you're scared if you showed it to anyone they would pick up on it lol.. 

  I like what you discarded very very interesting.... If you dropped it pick it back up and keep it around

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• GuesssWork

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Soledad on Oct 6, 2020

  You should talk about this more. Just saying it brings good ideas.

  Remember simple math. Directions in things not proven can go many ways. Simple math will show you an out door.  <<<---or some Indo

  Soledad, what are you talking about mate blazing up lol just kidding. how have you been.

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• GuesssWork

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by LuckyCharmz on Oct 10, 2020

  I tried that all none work. It's about luck two days ago I won $100 scratch off ticket_{, the next day didn't win but that's ok.}

  _{When I get lucky again I play another scratch off and win.}

  I agree to a point with you check my signature look at the leader boards. the numbers don't lie.The stats for any lotteries, the players on this site overall in any game is dismal so much so i'm shocked anyone who looks at overall averages of these posters me included would actually wager anything on any lottery game after checking the leader board for predictions. that in it's self should tell you if these everyday practitioners and guru's of gambling are not with great percentage score why even attempt to play these games? but you have many people me myself included that feel they can beat the odds. we all must have a few rocks loose somewhere lol. Truly it's like throwing a rock in a category 2 hurricane and trying to hit a bulls eye target 100 yards away with a bow and arrow.

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• Mostoff

  

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  When I read the questions of dr san it just remind me of a previous approach that I've tried. I found that he was having the same idea, but maybe didn't know how to implement it. So I just described my approach. I always do backtracking of the systems I implement, and I remember that this one didn't give good results. My criteria is positive balance in the backtracking. 

  But of course it can still be optimized. Maybe  I will return to it later. Now I'm focus on another method.

  I've been in this challenge of overcome the randomness of the lottery for only 3 years and 10 months, but every day that passes is a step closer to reach the target.
• NumberRunner

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Mostoff on Oct 12, 2020

  When I read the questions of dr san it just remind me of a previous approach that I've tried. I found that he was having the same idea, but maybe didn't know how to implement it. So I just described my approach. I always do backtracking of the systems I implement, and I remember that this one didn't give good results. My criteria is positive balance in the backtracking. 

  But of course it can still be optimized. Maybe  I will return to it later. Now I'm focus on another method.

  I've been in this challenge of overcome the randomness of the lottery for only 3 years and 10 months, but every day that passes is a step closer to reach the target.

  good luck hope it pans out for you