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Hi... I'm new to Florida and new to this thread.
Where I lived in the past, I did something that I'm considering doing here in Florida. I bought an entire book of scratch-offs (unopened, still sealed in the cellophane wrapper) and then I ran what I'd call a "SuperBowl Pool" by selling 100 squares in a 10 X 10 grid. As best I can recall, I sold each square for $5. (I did this so long ago that I forgot how I did it) Selling each square for $5 got me a total of $500, which paid me back for the book of scratch-offs I had previously purchased.
After all squares had been sold, I drew two single digit numbers out of a hat, and the person whose name appeared in the square at the intersection of those two numbers won the entire book of scratch-offs. I had no problem selling squares and I sold them out very quickly (I did this at work, but have since retired) After all 100 squares had been sold, I had some people who didn't get a chance to participate in the pool ask me to come and see them so they could get in on the pool if I did it a second time. (I never did it again - my boss frowned on it, but then he was a moron anyway) The guy who won the pack told me that he scratched about $200 worth of winning tickets.
I usually don't buy scratch-offs so I'm wondering if there is a particular Florida Lottery 5 dollar scratcher that would be good to buy should I do this again. Thanks! G5
PS One thing about buying an entire unopened book of scratch-offs: In the state where I lived, the retailer who sold me the pack told me he had to "activate it" first. He did that by scanning a barcode on a sticker stuck on the cellophane. Had he not done that, none of the winners in the pack would be eligible to be claimed. Retailers must do that before they start selling any tickets from a book they open and put in the case. He said "that's a protection thing". If the store was burglarized and the thief took an unopened pack that had not been scanned, he'd be out of luck as far as claiming any winners goes.
Play Smart!
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Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on May 23, 2022
Hi... I'm new to Florida and new to this thread.
Where I lived in the past, I did something that I'm considering doing here in Florida. I bought an entire book of scratch-offs (unopened, still sealed in the cellophane wrapper) and then I ran what I'd call a "SuperBowl Pool" by selling 100 squares in a 10 X 10 grid. As best I can recall, I sold each square for $5. (I did this so long ago that I forgot how I did it) Selling each square for $5 got me a total of $500, which paid me back for the book of scratch-offs I had previously purchased.
After all squares had been sold, I drew two single digit numbers out of a hat, and the person whose name appeared in the square at the intersection of those two numbers won the entire book of scratch-offs. I had no problem selling squares and I sold them out very quickly (I did this at work, but have since retired) After all 100 squares had been sold, I had some people who didn't get a chance to participate in the pool ask me to come and see them so they could get in on the pool if I did it a second time. (I never did it again - my boss frowned on it, but then he was a moron anyway) The guy who won the pack told me that he scratched about $200 worth of winning tickets.
I usually don't buy scratch-offs so I'm wondering if there is a particular Florida Lottery 5 dollar scratcher that would be good to buy should I do this again. Thanks! G5
PS One thing about buying an entire unopened book of scratch-offs: In the state where I lived, the retailer who sold me the pack told me he had to "activate it" first. He did that by scanning a barcode on a sticker stuck on the cellophane. Had he not done that, none of the winners in the pack would be eligible to be claimed. Retailers must do that before they start selling any tickets from a book they open and put in the case. He said "that's a protection thing". If the store was burglarized and the thief took an unopened pack that had not been scanned, he'd be out of luck as far as claiming any winners goes.
Hi GiveFive, nice adaptation of the age-old 10 x 10 parimutuel betting board. Question...were the $5 books where you did this 100 count ($500)?...or if less did you pocket some "House" $? Either way here in FL there are 60 tickets in a $5 book ($300 total) so unless you're looking to make House money on such a thing each square should be $3. I'd consider splitting the book and drawing 2 or even more winners perhaps, to up players chance of winning something but winner takes all of course simple and something everyone understands.
If I did this here (or anywhere) I'd chose a new game where all or most all top prizes are remaining. I'd do this to minimize potential issues because among the general public there seems to be a surprising number of people who know enough about going online to the FL Lotto site (or the app) and looking at remaining prizes and somehow think playing the game with most or all of its top prizes remaining is categorically better than playing one with most top prizes already claimed (more informed players know this is faulty logic). So, for example, if I were to run such an event today I'd probably use the new $5 "777" that just was released (as of today all top-level prizes remaining), even if it wasn't my 1st choice game if I were to play for myself.
Oh, and yes, all books are activated in such a fashion here too...therefore I'd go to a large place like Publix and watch them activate it (and they usually have books of the new games avail). If going to a smaller place and esp a mom and pop one I'd use one I know and am familiar at).
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Quote: Originally posted by Cape $cratcher on May 28, 2022
Hi GiveFive, nice adaptation of the age-old 10 x 10 parimutuel betting board. Question...were the $5 books where you did this 100 count ($500)?...or if less did you pocket some "House" $? Either way here in FL there are 60 tickets in a $5 book ($300 total) so unless you're looking to make House money on such a thing each square should be $3. I'd consider splitting the book and drawing 2 or even more winners perhaps, to up players chance of winning something but winner takes all of course simple and something everyone understands.
If I did this here (or anywhere) I'd chose a new game where all or most all top prizes are remaining. I'd do this to minimize potential issues because among the general public there seems to be a surprising number of people who know enough about going online to the FL Lotto site (or the app) and looking at remaining prizes and somehow think playing the game with most or all of its top prizes remaining is categorically better than playing one with most top prizes already claimed (more informed players know this is faulty logic). So, for example, if I were to run such an event today I'd probably use the new $5 "777" that just was released (as of today all top-level prizes remaining), even if it wasn't my 1st choice game if I were to play for myself.
Oh, and yes, all books are activated in such a fashion here too...therefore I'd go to a large place like Publix and watch them activate it (and they usually have books of the new games avail). If going to a smaller place and esp a mom and pop one I'd use one I know and am familiar at).
Hello Cape. I ran the board while I was living in The State of New York. I didn't act as the house, I simply fronted the money to buy the pack of scratchers. I figured that I'd be able to sell squares easier by showing people the pack as opposed to trying to sell squares without it. As it turned out, I could have sold out the squares without having to front any cash. Word spread very quickly about the pool... I had guys coming to see me like crazy asking to buy a square. It sold out in a single day.
I even spiced up how the winning numbers for the pool/board were drawn. I told people that bought a square that I was going to use the first number drawn from the mid-day drawing of The NY Lottery's Pick3 game ("Numbers") from a pre-determined date. Then I used the last/third number drawn during the evening Pick 3 draw for that same date. So two different Pick3 drawings actually determined who won the pack of scratchers.
I ran the pool so long ago that I dont recall exactly what I did! I'm pretty sure I paid $500 for the pack, and I do remember that I sold the squares at a price that gave me the money that I fronted back. It's possible that there were less than 100 tickets in that pack. But I'm sure I priced the squares to cover my initial outlay. The guy who won the pack showed up at my desk the next day and laid 50 bucks on my desk - which I didn't ask for nor did I expect - I told him it wasn't necessary, but he insisted. He said "We'd never had that pool if it wasn't for the work you did, and I wouldn't have won a thing either." I took the fifty bucks.
I never got the chance to run another one. I got called into the bosses office. I guess it caused a lot of excitement because my boss told me that his boss came to him and told him to tell me not to do it again.
Also, I accidentally bought a book of scratchers that had recently been released. (I didn't know that when I bought them) One guy who bought a square mentioned that he had just started playing that game because it had just been released and all the top prizes were still available. I bought the pack at a gas station near where I lived. It was that guy who told me that he had to activate them, and he asked me why I bought an entire pack. When I told him what I was doing, he asked if he could get in on the pool! I hadn't yet made the board and told him that, so he said "Well, when you have it, if you'd stop back here, I'll buy a couple of squares."
It was a fun thing, I'd have done it gain if it wasn't for the idiots in my management chain. What I really was hoping for was the winner would scratch a ticket worth a million bucks and walk into the idiots office and tell him to "take this job and" ..... G5
Play Smart!
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Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on May 28, 2022
Hello Cape. I ran the board while I was living in The State of New York. I didn't act as the house, I simply fronted the money to buy the pack of scratchers. I figured that I'd be able to sell squares easier by showing people the pack as opposed to trying to sell squares without it. As it turned out, I could have sold out the squares without having to front any cash. Word spread very quickly about the pool... I had guys coming to see me like crazy asking to buy a square. It sold out in a single day.
I even spiced up how the winning numbers for the pool/board were drawn. I told people that bought a square that I was going to use the first number drawn from the mid-day drawing of The NY Lottery's Pick3 game ("Numbers") from a pre-determined date. Then I used the last/third number drawn during the evening Pick 3 draw for that same date. So two different Pick3 drawings actually determined who won the pack of scratchers.
I ran the pool so long ago that I dont recall exactly what I did! I'm pretty sure I paid $500 for the pack, and I do remember that I sold the squares at a price that gave me the money that I fronted back. It's possible that there were less than 100 tickets in that pack. But I'm sure I priced the squares to cover my initial outlay. The guy who won the pack showed up at my desk the next day and laid 50 bucks on my desk - which I didn't ask for nor did I expect - I told him it wasn't necessary, but he insisted. He said "We'd never had that pool if it wasn't for the work you did, and I wouldn't have won a thing either." I took the fifty bucks.
I never got the chance to run another one. I got called into the bosses office. I guess it caused a lot of excitement because my boss told me that his boss came to him and told him to tell me not to do it again.
Also, I accidentally bought a book of scratchers that had recently been released. (I didn't know that when I bought them) One guy who bought a square mentioned that he had just started playing that game because it had just been released and all the top prizes were still available. I bought the pack at a gas station near where I lived. It was that guy who told me that he had to activate them, and he asked me why I bought an entire pack. When I told him what I was doing, he asked if he could get in on the pool! I hadn't yet made the board and told him that, so he said "Well, when you have it, if you'd stop back here, I'll buy a couple of squares."
It was a fun thing, I'd have done it gain if it wasn't for the idiots in my management chain. What I really was hoping for was the winner would scratch a ticket worth a million bucks and walk into the idiots office and tell him to "take this job and" ..... G5
When I ran the above pool, I know it was during the Summer of 2012. I know that because while I was making the board, I had the TV on, and I can recall seeing TV news video tape of Mitt Romney accepting The Republican Party's nomination for President. So as you can see, it was 10 years ago that I did it.
I did it because I had read an article in the newspaper about it, and how it had become "a thing" or a fad in Chicago. Seems it swept workplaces in The City of Chicago like wildfire. My compliments to whomever in Chicago that came up with the idea! IMHO that person was pretty innovative and had their thinking cap on!
One unexpected thing it did where I worked in New York was that it generated a lot of discussion among the pool participants about scratch-off's that I had never given any thought to. For instance, after the guy who won the book of scratchers said said he won "about $200", I realized that probably almost every book of tickets that gets printed will have a lesser dollar amount of winners in it than the total cost of the pack itself. How could it be otherwise? Sure, a book with a $500 winner or even the top prize being in the book is a losing proposition for The State of New York Lottery. But they could not and would not make any profit on the game if each and every pack had a greater dollar amount of winners in it than the cost of the pack.
Another thing we talked about was the fact that it might be the case that even though The State of New York Lottery said all of the top prizes were still available, that might not actually be the case. Yes, the game was new, so I doubt all of the top prizes had been scratched and were locked in a safe in the winners houses. But did New York Lottery have a warehouse somewhere where unopened packs where kept? I was told by the guy at the gas station where I bought the pack that as he ran low on tickets, he simply ordered more. That tells me The New York Lottery could have an inventory of them on hand, and distribute them as retailers needed or requested them. If all of the top prizes were still in The NY Lottery's possession and waiting to be distributed to retailers, then as far as I'm concerned the top prizes aren't available. Not yet anyway.
All things considered, it was a lot of fun and generated a fair amount of buzz in the office-place where I worked. People liked the fact that it was so very random. Participants in it didn't refuse to get in the pool due to the fact that the particular square they traditionally bought for superbowl pools was already sold. Superbowl pools are a once a year thing, but I think I could have done this pool once a month and the enthusiasm for it wouldn't have died out. G5
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