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fashohits

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Feb 22, 2023, 11:32 am

Hello everyone I wanted to see if individuals would be interested in joining a lottery club that's gonna be off the charts when it comes to winning different lotto/lottery games. It's currently in the set-up process and it's not gonna have many members. If you have any interest or questions please inbox me at your convenience.
rundown99

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Feb 22, 2023, 11:52 am

Don't join any lottery pool. Always play the lottery alone, and play in states where you can remain anonymous.

Smart lottery winners form trust to claim their winnings. They send an attorney to the lottery headquarters to claim the prize in trust, so that ONLY the name of the trust is revealed. And they tell NO ONE, especially relatives.

If you ever win a lottery and you are single, the only person you should ever marry is someone who was truly in love with you BEFORE you won the jackpot!

People can talk about strategies and gimmicks all they want, but unless your ticket actually matches at least 5 of those 6 balls, you are just another person who tried to win a game yet ultimately failed.
AllenB

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Feb 22, 2023, 12:48 pm

Quote: Originally posted by fashohits on Feb 22, 2023
Hello everyone I wanted to see if individuals would be interested in joining a lottery club that's gonna be off the charts when it comes to winning different lotto/lottery games. It's currently in the set-up process and it's not gonna have many members. If you have any interest or questions please inbox me at your convenience.

You sound pretty optimistic about what you are setting up. Key Words being "currently in" rather than "Complete"

How can you be sure that the Completed Set up will be "Off the Charts"?
db101

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Feb 22, 2023, 12:57 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rundown99 on Feb 22, 2023
Don't join any lottery pool. Always play the lottery alone, and play in states where you can remain anonymous.

Yeah pool play with people you meet online is just borrowing trouble.
db101

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Feb 22, 2023, 12:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by AllenB on Feb 22, 2023
You sound pretty optimistic about what you are setting up. Key Words being "currently in" rather than "Complete"

How can you be sure that the Completed Set up will be "Off the Charts"?

Make the chart very small to begin with.
AllenB

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Feb 22, 2023, 1:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Feb 22, 2023
Make the chart very small to begin with.

Good One db

"Off the Chart" may be more of an excuse than an actual Hit.

Place the Target far enough away and your shot pattern will be "Off the Chart"

Sounds like a Miss to me.
winoneday

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Feb 22, 2023, 1:41 pm

I am interested.

I think it is the best way to overcome the huge odds of games like Mega Millions and Powerball.
PrisonerSix

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Feb 22, 2023, 10:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Feb 22, 2023
Yeah pool play with people you meet online is just borrowing trouble.

I ran a pool at a job I had several years ago. I bought a mix of Powerball, MegaMillions, and Louisiana Lotto tickets. Sadly, we never hit it big, but we kept trying.

Prisoner Six

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db101

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Feb 23, 2023, 12:57 am

Quote: Originally posted by PrisonerSix on Feb 22, 2023
I ran a pool at a job I had several years ago. I bought a mix of Powerball, MegaMillions, and Louisiana Lotto tickets. Sadly, we never hit it big, but we kept trying.

With people you know and see frequently is one thing.
winoneday

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Feb 23, 2023, 12:17 pm

Given a choice of joining a lotto pool with a group of strangers or a group of friends and family, I will always take the strangers.

With friends and family, pools tend to be informal. There is always the cousin who asks to be looked after if the pool wins even though they never contribute. And then someone says, "don't worry". They have just made a promise on behalf of the group. Then there is the freeloader who always promises to pay next week but never does. They will expect a share. And of course, there are all the verbal promises and agreements that cannot be verified once money is won.

No, I will always take a group of strangers every time.

I am in a group now that plays Powerball and Mega Millions. There is a contract we all sign, there is an exact number of people in each draw and most importantly, there is a copy of all tickets sent to each member prior to the draw. Even though the organizer is responsible for checking the tickets, I also check them. Very easy to do with ticket checker apps. If we hit the jackpot, I plan to call the lottery office first thing in the morning and let them know I have a claim on the jackpot. No way the organizer can make off with the money. I trust the pool organizer but I will still cover my bases.

The best part of the lotto pool is we only buy tickets when the jackpots are large. This way if we win, each member of the pool becomes a millionaire.

This is another reason why it is important to know the odds of Powerball and Mega Millions when lots of tickets are bought. I do a rough estimate of the expected value of a draw based on the odds and the jackpot size. I put in extra money when the jackpots get really huge. Another benefit of the pool is the organizer lets people put in extra money. Everyone's share of the jackpot is based on the amount contributed by each person.

Even if we never win, it is fun knowing we have relatively good odds of winning.
PrisonerSix

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Feb 23, 2023, 4:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Feb 23, 2023
With people you know and see frequently is one thing.

Agree. I would never be in a pool online with people I don't know or never see.

Running a pool is a lot of work, but cam be rewarding.

Prisoner Six

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db101

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Feb 23, 2023, 7:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by winoneday on Feb 23, 2023
Given a choice of joining a lotto pool with a group of strangers or a group of friends and family, I will always take the strangers.

With friends and family, pools tend to be informal. There is always the cousin who asks to be looked after if the pool wins even though they never contribute. And then someone says, "don't worry". They have just made a promise on behalf of the group. Then there is the freeloader who always promises to pay next week but never does. They will expect a share. And of course, there are all the verbal promises and agreements that cannot be verified once money is won.

No, I will always take a group of strangers every time.

I am in a group now that plays Powerball and Mega Millions. There is a contract we all sign, there is an exact number of people in each draw and most importantly, there is a copy of all tickets sent to each member prior to the draw. Even though the organizer is responsible for checking the tickets, I also check them. Very easy to do with ticket checker apps. If we hit the jackpot, I plan to call the lottery office first thing in the morning and let them know I have a claim on the jackpot. No way the organizer can make off with the money. I trust the pool organizer but I will still cover my bases.

The best part of the lotto pool is we only buy tickets when the jackpots are large. This way if we win, each member of the pool becomes a millionaire.

This is another reason why it is important to know the odds of Powerball and Mega Millions when lots of tickets are bought. I do a rough estimate of the expected value of a draw based on the odds and the jackpot size. I put in extra money when the jackpots get really huge. Another benefit of the pool is the organizer lets people put in extra money. Everyone's share of the jackpot is based on the amount contributed by each person.

Even if we never win, it is fun knowing we have relatively good odds of winning.

Yeah a written operating agreement is crucial for a big pool, whether they are strangers or family. No reason why you can't insist on rules with kin. Gotta have rules for buy-in amt and frequency, what to do if someone misses a payment, whether to distribute or reinvest smaller wins, whether QPs are okay with everyone or not. What if some in the group want to do self-picks instead of QPs because they think they've cracked the code? LOL. But the biggest problem is when some pool members play individually on the side. What if the pool wins but the designated buyer claims that was actually his personal ticket he bought on the side? It's a good thing your group insists on photos. I bet most groups are not as careful as yours.

At the end of the day I prefer to reduce my stress and play solo, or at most pool with my sibling. To each their own.

(Have you considered weeding out the mathematically illiterate from your pool buy asking what's the odds of winning the PB jackpot if you buy 1,453,738 distinct combinations? If the answer is anything other than 1 in 201 they cannot join. )
winoneday

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Feb 23, 2023, 7:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by db101 on Feb 23, 2023
Yeah a written operating agreement is crucial for a big pool, whether they are strangers or family. No reason why you can't insist on rules with kin. Gotta have rules for buy-in amt and frequency, what to do if someone misses a payment, whether to distribute or reinvest smaller wins, whether QPs are okay with everyone or not. What if some in the group want to do self-picks instead of QPs because they think they've cracked the code? LOL. But the biggest problem is when some pool members play individually on the side. What if the pool wins but the designated buyer claims that was actually his personal ticket he bought on the side? It's a good thing your group insists on photos. I bet most groups are not as careful as yours.

At the end of the day I prefer to reduce my stress and play solo, or at most pool with my sibling. To each their own.

(Have you considered weeding out the mathematically illiterate from your pool buy asking what's the odds of winning the PB jackpot if you buy 1,453,738 distinct combinations? If the answer is anything other than 1 in 201 they cannot join. )

Ha ha. You made me multiply out those two numbers to see what side of the fence you were on.

See you are the graduation ceremony.

Kin and friends can be big trouble when it comes to money.
Nikkicute

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Feb 25, 2023, 3:43 pm

Fashionhits,

Your inbox is full, I cannot answer your p.m question.
winoneday

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Feb 28, 2023, 1:46 pm

Lotto Texas looks like a great candidate for a lotto pool. The expected value for the game is well above the 50% average and may be close to 100%.

The odds are reasonable enough that with a large number of tickets, winning the jackpot is a realistic goal.

Any interest?

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