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Frl88p

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Apr 23, 2025, 4:06 am

Hi, I need help in this mirror/flip number formula method.
I have been searching high and low for this, but I cant find it, does anyone know how to do this, how to solve this grid ?
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Apr 23, 2025, 4:07 am

Here are more pictures of this grid,
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Apr 23, 2025, 1:34 pm

Posted a download link to my Blog.

The link contains an Excel file

Also added a video link with instructions

https://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/190751
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Apr 23, 2025, 11:05 pm

Hi, thank you so much for helping me out, I really appreciate it, however, I still dont understand how these calculations work, are you telling me they are calculated from the numbers above, +4 to every digit ?
Look at this grid and tell me how to work this out please,
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Apr 24, 2025, 7:53 am

I just used the 1st 2 examples you posted.

What is the starting values in your new post? 1-3-5-0

Are you flipping/mirroring these 4 numbers above 1-3-5-0?
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Apr 24, 2025, 8:40 am

Sorry, Im supposed to have said, the starting value is from the middle number, from the middle, it goes to the top and bottom. What I need to know is, the formula to flip or to get the top and bottom row numbers. Im guessing its by flipping them, and Im sure theres a calculation method for it, thats what im trying to figure out. Im trying some rundowns, but its not accurate, I am trying some +4, its also not working. Can you help me find out how to do this please ?
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Apr 24, 2025, 8:44 am

Im trying to base it out of this chart, but Im hoping someone could help me figure how to use this too,
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Apr 27, 2025, 2:11 am

Hi, can you help me please
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Apr 27, 2025, 6:37 am

You could implement that Thomson chart as an Xlookup in Excel. Just differentiate the 2 flip columns... maybe as flip_down and flip_up.

The carry is obviously mirror - 1

The first flip column is mirror - 2

The second flip column is mirror + 2

Have an EXCELlent day!
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Apr 27, 2025, 6:54 am

Could you demonstrate for me please ?
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Apr 27, 2025, 8:17 pm

Let's get a better understanding of what you are looking for first. The samples provided do not match up with the Thompson chart.

You also have to account for "lottery math", because if you +4 a 9 for example, that is 13, but in lottery numbers it is 3. Same goes for a -4 on a 1... 1-4 = -3, but you are looking for a 7.

I am confident in being able to put it in spreadsheet form, but I need to understand what you are trying to get to with the examples.

Have an EXCELlent day!
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Apr 29, 2025, 12:36 am

You are right, its not the Thomson Chart that I need to look into for, for answers. Heres what I do know from my research,
Firstly, what I am searching for is a method of calculation that can answer why the numbers come out the way they do for the top and bottom based on the base number that is placed in the middle.
The problem is when I key in the number, it only produces most numbers based on the base middle number, like if the base has more odd numbers, then ill only get odd numbers above and bottom and vice versa. I also noticed that when I clicked 8024-246, the answer is 7778, the same it is when i clicked 9135-1357, the answer is also 7778, Im wondering if this could be a clue ?
I also feel like it has alot to do with mirror numbers as well, and I've been told that there is a certain calculative method to it, which is what I am trying to find out., I was also told that the base calculation for every pick 4 number is 1257/9, this I also something that I dont know much about but im thinking its maybe a clue into the calculation. Im trying to create methods that can help with this grid, like 7777-Any 4 digit or 3 digit number +2222 to get an appropriate number that can work with this grid/chart. I also tried 246+ 4D or 3D number - 8024, placing the answer into the grid, well sometimes they work and sometimes they dont. So what I am asking here is if anyone can share any calculative method or strategies that make number flipping easier or that can help me find the right base number for this chart.
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Apr 29, 2025, 8:54 am

The second grid you posted, with 3 5 7 9 in the middle, has the easiest solution.

The top number given is 1 3 5 7, which is 3 5 7 9 - 2 2 2 2

The bottom number given is 9 1 3 5, which (when wrapping around is considered) is 3 5 7 9 + 6 6 6 6

That addition and subtraction of even numbers explains why you will only get odd numbers when starting with an odd number. The same would work for starting with even numbers and ending up with all evens.

The problem? The other posted grids do not follow this pattern.

Is there some significance to the numbers that appear in red vs the numbers that appear in black?

Have an EXCELlent day!
Frl88p

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Apr 29, 2025, 9:31 am

In terms of the colours, I havent found any. So far I noticed only this, the odds and evens issues, and what I believe is the need for mirror numbers conversion.
Also what I found out is, the chart also works well slightly when you place a pick 4 sum into the app.
Even that, the sums part, im looking to find out how does this work. From your point of view, shall I go with (use) ths 4d-2222+6666 method or are there anything else which I can use ?
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Apr 29, 2025, 10:21 am
so to brake down the Thompson Chart uses fixed digit transformations based on mapping rules. Each rule is designed to shift or mirror digits to create alternative sets of numbers

Here are the most frequently used transformation modes in the Thompson Chart :
Digit Mirror Carry Flip1 Flip2

0 5 4 3 7

1 6 5 4 8

2 7 6 5 9

3 8 7 6 0

4 9 8 7 1

5 0 9 8 2

6 1 0 9 3

7 2 1 0 4

8 3 2 1 5

9 4 3 2 6

What the columns mean:
- Mirror: Reflects the number over a "mirror" line (like 0 ↔ 5, 1 ↔ 6).
- Carry: Mimics how numbers carry over in math (shifting digits forward by 4).
- Flip1/Flip2: Other variants that rotate the digits through a pattern, often used for more randomness.
Given a number like 1 0 3 2 from your yellow chart applying the Mirror rule turns it into:

1 → 6 0 → 5 3 → 8 2 → 7 Result: 6 5 8 7

i made a tool that does this for you that does Mirror ,Carry and Flip1/Flip2

code for the tool

Add-Type -AssemblyName System.Windows.Forms

# Thompson Chart maps
$thompsonChart = @{
Mirror = @{0=5; 1=6; 2=7; 3=8; 4=9; 5=0; 6=1; 7=2; 8=3; 9=4}
Carry = @{0=4; 1=5; 2=6; 3=7; 4=8; 5=9; 6=0; 7=1; 8=2; 9=3}
Flip1 = @{0=3; 1=4; 2=5; 3=6; 4=7; 5=8; 6=9; 7=0; 8=1; 9=2}
Flip2 = @{0=7; 1=8; 2=9; 3=0; 4=1; 5=2; 6=3; 7=4; 8=5; 9=6}
}

function Convert-Numbers {
param ($numbers, $method)
$chart = $thompsonChart[$method]
return $numbers | ForEach-Object { $chart[$_] }
}

# Create GUI
$form = New-Object Windows.Forms.Form
$form.Text = "Thompson Lottery Chart"
$form.Size = New-Object Drawing.Size(400,250)
$form.StartPosition = "CenterScreen"

# Input label and textbox
$label = New-Object Windows.Forms.Label
$label.Text = "Enter 4 digits (separated by space):"
$label.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(20, 20)
$label.AutoSize = $true
$form.Controls.Add($label)

$inputBox = New-Object Windows.Forms.TextBox
$inputBox.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(220, 18)
$inputBox.Size = New-Object Drawing.Size(140, 20)
$form.Controls.Add($inputBox)

# Dropdown for transformation
$combo = New-Object Windows.Forms.ComboBox
$combo.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(20, 60)
$combo.Size = New-Object Drawing.Size(150, 20)
$combo.Items.AddRange(@("Mirror", "Carry", "Flip1", "Flip2"))
$combo.SelectedIndex = 0
$form.Controls.Add($combo)

# Button to convert
$button = New-Object Windows.Forms.Button
$button.Text = "Transform"
$button.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(200, 58)
$form.Controls.Add($button)

# Output box
$outputLabel = New-Object Windows.Forms.Label
$outputLabel.Text = "Transformed:"
$outputLabel.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(20, 100)
$outputLabel.AutoSize = $true
$form.Controls.Add($outputLabel)

$outputBox = New-Object Windows.Forms.TextBox
$outputBox.Location = New-Object Drawing.Point(110, 98)
$outputBox.Size = New-Object Drawing.Size(250, 20)
$outputBox.ReadOnly = $true
$form.Controls.Add($outputBox)

# Action on button click
$button.Add_Click({
$rawInput = $inputBox.Text.Trim()
$method = $combo.SelectedItem

if ($rawInput -match '^(\d\s+){3}\d$') {
$numbers = $rawInput -split '\s+' | ForEach-Object { [int]$_ }
$converted = Convert-Numbers -numbers $numbers -method $method
$outputBox.Text = ($converted -join " ")
} else {
[System.Windows.Forms.MessageBox]::Show("Please enter exactly 4 digits separated by spaces (e.g., 1 2 3 4).", "Input Error", "OK", "Error")
}
})

# Run the GUI
[void]$form.ShowDialog()