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States can have from pick 2 to pick 5, would you play a pick 6?

Yes

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hypersoniq

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Aug 15, 2025, 2:19 pm

I wonder if they set up six machines with 0 to 9 in each if that would be a popular game... given the lottery commissions paying out about 50% of the odds, that would be a 1,000,000 to 1 $500,000 payday...

Would you play a game like that?

Wonder how much they would charge for a ticket... $2 per would be fair, not too sure above that.

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Aug 15, 2025, 2:32 pm

Hmm, interesting...

The PERM column would be considered the BOX.

PERM SET #	PERMUTATION SETS	PERM	COMB	PROD	PROD TOTAL
1	A A A A A A	1	10	10	1000000
2	A A A A A B	6	45	270
3	A B B B B B	6	45	270
4	A A A A B B	15	45	675
5	A A B B B B	15	45	675
6	A A A B B B	20	45	900
7	A A A A B C	30	120	3600
8	A B B B B C	30	120	3600
9	A B C C C C	30	120	3600
10	A A A B B C	60	120	7200
11	A A A B C C	60	120	7200
12	A A B B B C	60	120	7200
13	A A B C C C	60	120	7200
14	A B B B C C	60	120	7200
15	A B B C C C	60	120	7200
16	A A B B C C	90	120	10800
17	A A A B C D	120	210	25200
18	A B B B C D	120	210	25200
19	A B C C C D	120	210	25200
20	A B C D D D	120	210	25200
21	A A B B C D	180	210	37800
22	A A B C C D	180	210	37800
23	A A B C D D	180	210	37800
24	A B B C C D	180	210	37800
25	A B B C D D	180	210	37800
26	A B C C D D	180	210	37800
27	A A B C D E	360	252	90720
28	A B B C D E	360	252	90720
29	A B C C D E	360	252	90720
30	A B C D D E	360	252	90720
31	A B C D E E	360	252	90720
32	A B C D E F	720	210	151200

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Aug 15, 2025, 4:47 pm

Depends how much I win.
I enjoy winning.

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Aug 15, 2025, 5:46 pm

A A A - Triples

A A A A - Quads

A A A A A - Quints

A A A A A A - Hexes

Given a once daily draw, on average, a Hex would happen once every 273.79 years.

Twice daily, once every 136.90 years.

Four daily, once every 68.45 years.

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grwurston

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Same digits. Different games.

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Aug 15, 2025, 9:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Aug 15, 2025
A A A - Triples

A A A A - Quads

A A A A A - Quints

A A A A A A - Hexes

Given a once daily draw, on average, a Hex would happen once every 273.79 years.

Twice daily, once every 136.90 years.

Four daily, once every 68.45 years.

Hitting a pick 6 hex? Not in this lifetime.

List Pick 3 singles by low sums, high sums. Separate each sum row by consecutive pair and non consecutive pair combos. These 3 pair groups. 14 17 47, 25 28 58, 36 39 69 are in 63 combos. 54 combos do not have them. Which sums do the 3 pair groups appear and not appear? Look at root sum groups 147, 258, 369. Play accordingly.
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Aug 16, 2025, 2:44 am

I'm thinking it wouldn't be viable and guessing the state lotteries have looked at it and decided not to offer the game.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Aug 21, 2025, 12:11 am

What is the difference between the game described and the Ohio Kicker?

New Zealand has a similar game called Bullseye, but whether you win is based on how close your guess is to the number drawn in absolute terms (e.g., for the Jan. 1, 2025 draw, they picked 728534. If you guess within ten numbers (e.g., 728530), you win $10,000, but if you miss by the first digit (e.g., 128534), you win nothing.

Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!
hypersoniq

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Aug 21, 2025, 12:27 am

Quote: Originally posted by Hermanus104 on Aug 21, 2025
What is the difference between the game described and the Ohio Kicker?

New Zealand has a similar game called Bullseye, but whether you win is based on how close your guess is to the number drawn in absolute terms (e.g., for the Jan. 1, 2025 draw, they picked 728534. If you guess within ten numbers (e.g., 728530), you win $10,000, but if you miss by the first digit (e.g., 128534), you win nothing.

The Ohio classic lotto is a 6/49 game and the kicker is extra.

I do not think you get to pick your numbers in the kicker game.

The payout vs. odds on the kicker are horrible compared to what the regular daily drawn games pay out. $10 for the front 2, $100 for the front three, etc... they pay out 10% of the odds. Now, that is only for an extra dollar, where most front or back match N sub bets (like a front 3 on a pick 4 ticket) cost extra, but you get to pick your own numbers. Plus I think the kicker is drawn 3 days a week.

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Hermanus104

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Aug 23, 2025, 12:18 am

I thought Kicker was tied to one of the other Ohio games--wasn't sure which.

Michigan and Virginia had Kicker games at one point as well, but both discontinued long ago. Virginia's, I remember, ended in the late 1990s.

When I was first starting to follow the lottery, I wondered why states even had both a 3-ball and a 4-ball numbers game. Why not just a Pick-4 with the option of playing the front 3 or back 3? Or why not a Pick 6 with options for Pick 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6?

Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!
Justing618

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Sep 5, 2025, 12:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Hermanus104 on Aug 23, 2025
I thought Kicker was tied to one of the other Ohio games--wasn't sure which.

Michigan and Virginia had Kicker games at one point as well, but both discontinued long ago. Virginia's, I remember, ended in the late 1990s.

When I was first starting to follow the lottery, I wondered why states even had both a 3-ball and a 4-ball numbers game. Why not just a Pick-4 with the option of playing the front 3 or back 3? Or why not a Pick 6 with options for Pick 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6?

Va basically has a pick 6. I think they call the last ball a fireball. 🤷

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