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Lotto Cheatah

How much does your software cost???? I am just wondering???

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Quote: Originally posted by visiondude on September 19 2002

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you and i  however are at the polar opposites as to how we approach the lottery.  i am cool with that.  i still (at this time) do not believe that you or anyone else can beat a random game.  put it this way, i have never seen convincing evidence. there are people out there who have won "WHILE"  using a system but based on the way i look at things, it had NOTHING to do with the system.  if systems really worked, they wouldn't be so "random"  would they?   they would make winning more- c.o.n.s.i.s.t.e.n.t.  i have NEVER seen that. i have seen a "hit" here and there. not consistently enough to make a "believer" out of me. (yet)

There are two major errors in this logic:
1.  The assumption that the lottery is a random system.
2. The presumption that "random" and "not predictable" are synonymous.

These common errors are only part truths at best.

Regarding assumption 1:
I can predict one winning number for any pick 5 or pick 6 50% of the time without looking any further back than the last winning number. So can you. Simply pick one of the numbers from the last winner. One of those will hit on the next draw half of the time, by average. It ain't all random. infact it ain't random at all! Know thy game.

Regarding presumption 2:
Take your common minted coin-toss. Heads or Tails. Random enough to decide the superbowl kickoff. Can be guessed, but can't be predicted, right?

Consider this. Toss that coin 10 times and record the result. Even though the "random" odds say you should get 5 heads and 5 tails, it rarely turns out that way. Usually it's 6-4 or 7-3. Give it a try.  So what, eh?

Take it one step further. If the random nature of the game says the result should be 5-5, but you got 7-3, then the odds of you picking correct on the next toss go in your favor if you pick whatever your 3-hit side was. There is a mathematics to randomness. Use the "random" nature of the game to your advantage. Know thy game.

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Quote: Originally posted by secret4777 on September 20 2002

Lotto Cheatah

How much does your software cost???? I am just wondering???

It is free. The whole Kahuna, absolutely free! Just download it. Loaded and ready to go!

It will dventually become obsolete if you don't get an update key for \$10 cash/snail or \$12.95 online by secure server/credit card, however it won't stop making picks.. it just won't stay at the leading edge. WebTV users get  similar deal except I run their software for them and email them their picks.

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I should add, the 1:3 odds only apply if you try 5 times and pick 5 numbers, If you just pick one number than the odds are 1:52 that will pick one of the winning numbers.  Even I get confuse on the math.

RJOh

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"cheetah",  all i said was that we have a different approach about the lottery. i believe that no one can predict the next draw and in that sense it is random.  you believe it is "predictable".  you believe that so much that you charge people money for your "ability" to predict winning numbers. i did not attack your assertion that you can, i only disagreed that you could. i said that i was "cool" with our differences.

i understand that you have some credibility at stake in here and that you are making your best case to hold onto it.  you need to sell your "system".  you made a comment to me in the above post and i responded in kind.  our conversation (so far) has been civil although we disagree. i intend on keeping it that way on my end until something changes that.

since you are the one that claims he has something (and charges \$\$\$ for it),  it is now time for you to prove it. you said in the last post ; "i can predict"...   i know that you were refering to being able to predict  (1) number every draw 50% of the time on avg based on the previous draw.  but i also know that you can't make any money for the people that you charge \$\$\$ for your services unless you can pick more than one number regularly. and by regularly i mean that you at minimum must give your paying customers the ability to make money, not lose money.

it is interesting to me that you never took my challenge before. you are the one making the claims, not me.  you approached me, i did not approach you. you say you can,  lets see solid evidence.  sedertree has stepped up, what about you? do you have the ability for all to see that you truly have something?  now is your chance. the lottery post will either bring you the credibilty you seek,  our you will have to find greener pastures. (it's called "gambling")

i wish this didn't include me for once. why does this stuff find me?  we agreed to disagree, at least i was.  you should have left it there.  you know how i am. i will ask you to prove it.   time for you to do a sedertree type challenge. one month. show a profit over a (1) month period of time.  i say you cannot predict 'squat" (that is ONLY my opinion).  you say you can.

PROVE IT.  time to quit talking about what you got and show it instead. right here for all to see. if you are as good as you say,  after we are done, they will be lining up.  so to "coin" a gambling  phrase,  are you ready to "roll the dice"?  it will be obvious if you truly have a "system".  with all the people that watch this stuff, you could be on your way to "predicting stardom". so what do you say, can you really give the people you charge money for your services "their" moneys worth?  lets give it a try. it will be a fair barometer. i will as always be fair with you. we will dialog as to the terms of the challenge. we will come to an acceptable agreement TOGETHER on this matter. i will give you every chance you need to show your "stuff".  so, what do you say cheetah, are you up to it? you stand to make alot of money (or lose)  depending on the outcome.

much respect,  .........................vision - why does this stuff find me? - dude

"i am .........."meant to"

P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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dinojd and lottocheetah,

Big congrats on your little lotto win.  I play it daily and now I'm gonna check this software out.

I'm really happy for you dinojd...you'll be able to get a nice computer with your winnings.

Rick G.

Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).

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Hi, RJOH

I have download that software and I see that is don't have mega million

on it software if it do I don't know how to get it up if you could me how to do that  please e-mail

Thank v1028

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Hello Veronica,

In Lotto Cheatha's earlier posts, he said that Megamillions didn't have enough history to add to the list, but would add it in a few weeks.  You will have to wait until it is added.  The software is free, but you have to pay to update it after you use the free credits.  Good luck to you.

RJOh

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Quote: Originally posted by visiondude on September 20 2002

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since you are the one that claims he has something (and charges \$\$\$ for it),  it is now time for you to prove it. you said in the last post ; "i can predict"...   i know that you were refering to being able to predict  (1) number every draw 50% of the time on avg based on the previous draw.  but i also know that you can't make any money for the people that you charge \$\$\$ for your services unless you can pick more than one number regularly. and by regularly i mean that you at minimum must give your paying customers the ability to make money, not lose money.

The proof is in the using. That is why it is a free fully-functional download. That is why I have the "prove it to me" link at the website, and that is why Jeff hit his jackpot. He's been playing 10 picks a day for two months. Why not ask him how much he's won using Lotto Cheatah in addition to his jackpot hit?

Those that use Lotto Cheatah regularly will find that they win more than with a quick-pick. This doesn't mean they win more than they lose. It means they win more and more often than they used to.

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I am wondering if the lotto cheatah can be used for the Mass cash which is a 5 number of 35.

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invalid command line arguments. I did try and load it again because the first time i had 8 credits which never allowed me to use so I think I should be allowed to try again. Do I need a key for which I feel i should not be charged. I would like to try for the florida fantasy five. thanks. my e-mail is salesmn419@aol.com

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"cheetah",  first of all like i have said in the past to you i am glad that you offer a free trial.  that is fair.  second i would like to commend for not being as greedy as some of the others in here who charge \$\$\$ for what they do.

i really don't enjoy this type of thing. there is a part of me that prefers to not say anything.  a "small"  part of me cannot sit back and watch you guy's make empty promises.  at least you were a little more honest in your representation of your product,  at least "partially" honest. the part where you were honest was when you said "this doesn't mean that they win more then they lose".  the other half that was not honest and was marketed as a ploy to sell your wares: "Those that use lotto cheetah regularly will win more than with a quick-pick".  that is not true and you cannot produce data (at least that i have seen) that shows that your system will out perform quick picks (which people can do without your help).

you can post all the positive 'spin' that you want on your website,  it doesn't prove that you can do what people could do themselves.  you "forgot" to post the amount of money that you have "lost" for people in comparison to how much you have "won" for them.  to most people that look at your site or read on here that a couple of people have won using your "system",  there seems to be some credibility there.  they know nothing about the amounts of money that people lose while using your system. there is no representation on your website concerning win/loss. only the trumpting of wins.  that is not a fair representation of what you can/cannot do.

that is why i issued you a challenge.  a fair challenge. who cares what i say or believe, this is your chance to showcase your talent.  if you really believed in yourself and what you do, you would jump on this oppurtunity.  by proving yourself to all who watch in here,  you stand the chance of getting more customers than you can imagine. if you have something, i am really helping you to sell alot of programs. this could be your big oppurtunity. if you are a good business man,  this is the perfect marketing vehicle for what you are doing. there are plenty of people in here that want what you supposedly have. give it to them.  take the challenge.  you have positive spin on your website,  that proves nothing. an un-biased challenge equally agreed upon will showcase your stuff accurately.

because i truly do not enjoy this type of thing, this will be the last time i issue any challenge to you. i will always stand up for what's right. however i do not want to be known in here as someone who "butts heads"  with people. i want to be known for things more important than that.  i understand what you do, i do not agree with it. i am cool with it. at the end of the day, you have to answer to yourself, not me. i am cool with that.  so really it is about whether you want to show your stuff in a fair challenge,  or you will continue to put positive "spin" on something that you may or may not actually be able to deliver.

in closing i am going to be fair. you at least give people a free trial. that's fair. and people will choose after that whether they give you their money. but i would hope that you would be a stand up guy and take the challenge.  you will give the people a fair barometer about what you can do. and it is the marketing vehicle that a guy like you craves.  if you have something you will greatly benefit. my "bet" is that you won't because that might show that you are unable to deliver. your choice about this matter shows whether you believe in yourself or not.  i will not debate with you about this anymore.  i respect your right to be in here as well as me. unless you have something to dialog with me about,  we are done.  do what you will.  if you want the challenge, we can work out the terms...

...........................visiondude

"i am .........."meant to"

P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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Quote: Originally posted by retxx on September 20 2002

invalid command line arguments. I did try and load it again because the first time i had 8 credits which never allowed me to use so I think I should be allowed to try again. Do I need a key for which I feel i should not be charged. I would like to try for the florida fantasy five. thanks. my e-mail is salesmn419@aol.com

Yes, I remember you from months earlier. Lotto Cheatah has problems installing in WinXP unless you use the zipfile version. It's the installer that XP doesn't like. Once you have Lotto Cheatah installed [using the zipfile version] it should work fine.

The zipfile [for WinXP] and the self-installer [for Win9x/SE/ME] have the same contents. Only the envelope is different.

If you have problems with the install and start mucking with the software to get it to work, all bets are off! Lotto Cheatah is smartware. It has internal security features to stop any unauthorized tampering. Those that tamper with or try to crack it will find that it will no longer work for them without a valid key.

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Quote: Originally posted by retxx on September 20 2002

I am wondering if the lotto cheatah can be used for the Mass cash which is a 5 number of 35.

If it is not on the menu, it is not yet supported. I have room for 24 games and there are 24 games on the menu. Each one of those games has many people clicking out Lotto Cheatah picks.

I can't add a new game without dropping an existing one, and I can't drop an existing one without abandoning existing users.. so that just can't happen.  I do add new games when old ones end. Florida and NY were added when the Big Game and Rolldown ended.

I do take requests from users and maintain these in a [rather long] waiting list.

The exception is custom work. You have to win the Jackpot before I will discuss custom work with you.

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