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Posted: March 23, 2003, 9:33 am - IP Logged

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    Posted: March 23, 2003, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

    Susan...You're the best and I thank you for bring-

    the issue to our attention.It is clear now,We're

    in The United States Of America where true freedom

    will be protected at all cost.

    So,when will the Appeals Court become an elected-

    office?



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      Thanks lotto

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          god stays !!!!

                      "i am .........."meant to"       

          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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            Posted: March 23, 2003, 7:21 pm - IP Logged

            Susan:

             

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              Dear John,



              As you know, We've been working real hard in our town to get prayer back in our schools. Finally, the school board approved a plan of teacher-led prayer with the children participating at their own option. Children not wishing to participate were to be allowed to stand out in the hallway during prayer time. We hoped someone would sue us so we could go all the way to the Supreme Court and get the old devil-inspired ruling reversed.



              Naturally, we were all excited by the school board action. As you know, our own little Billy (not so little, any more though) is now in the second grade. Of course, Margaret and I explained to him no matter what the other kids did, he was going to stay in the classroom and participate.



              After the first day of school, I asked him "How did the prayer time go?"



              "Fine."



              "Did many kids go out into the hallway?"



              "Two.



              "Excellent. How did you like your teacher's prayer?"



              "It was different, Dad. Real different from the way you pray."



              "Oh? Like how?"



              "She said, 'Hail Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners...'"



              The next day I talked with the principal. I politely explained I wasn't prejudiced against Catholics but I would appreciate Billy being transferred to a non-Catholic teacher. The principal said it would be done right away.



              At supper that evening I asked Billy to say the blessings. He slipped out of his chair, sat cross-legged, closed his eyes, raised his hand palms up in the air and began to hum. You'd better believe I was at the principal's office at eight o'clock the next morning. "Look," I said. 'I don't really know much about these Transcendental Meditationists, but I would feel a lot more comfortable If you could move Billy to a room where the teacher practices an older, more established religion."



              That afternoon I met Billy as soon as he walked in the door after school.



              "I don't think you're going to like Mrs. Nakasone's prayer either, Dad."



              "Out with it."



              "She kept chanting Namu Amida Butsu..."



              The following morning I was waiting for the principal in the school parking lot. "Look, I don't want my son praying to the Eternal Spirit of whatever to Buddha. I want him to have a teacher who prays in Jesus' name!"



              "What about Bertha Smith?"



              "Excellent."



              I could hardly wait to hear about Mrs. Smith's prayer. I was standing on the front steps of the school when the final bell rang.



              "Well?" I asked Billy as we walked towards the car.



              "Okay."



              "Okay what?"



              "Mrs. Smith asked God to bless us and ended her prayer in Jesus' name, amen just like you."



              I breathed a sigh of relief. "Now we're getting some place."



              "She even taught us a verse of scripture about prayer," said Billy.



              I beamed. "Wonderful. What was the verse?"



              "Lets see..." he mused for a moment. "And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God."



              We had reached the car. "Fantastic," I said reaching for the door handle. Then paused. I couldn't place the scripture.



              "Billy, did Mrs. Smith say what book that verse was from?"



              "Third Nephi, chapter 19, verse 18."



              "Nephi what?"



              "Nephi," he said. "It's in the Book of Mormon.



              The school board doesn't meet for a month. I've given Billy very definite instructions that at prayer time each day he's to go out into the hallway. I plan to be at that board meeting. If they don't do something about this situation, I'LL sue. I might even call the ACLU. I'LL take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. I don't need schools or anybody else teaching my son about religion. We can take care of that ourselves at home and at church, thank you very much.



              Your brother, James


              Okay, now I believe you can predict lottery numbers

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                Another anti-Christian mess

                 

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                  My

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                     Thomas - Little Billy must be pretty confused by now huh?

                    Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on March 24, 2003






                    Naturally, we were all excited by the school board action. As you know, our own little Billy (not so little, any more though) is now in the second grade. Of course, Margaret and I explained to him no matter what the other kids did, he was going to stay in the classroom and participate.



                    The school board doesn't meet for a month. I've given Billy very definite instructions that at prayer time each day he's to go out into the hallway. I plan to be at that board meeting. If they don't do something about this situation, I'LL sue. I might even call the ACLU. I'LL take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. I don't need schools or anybody else teaching my son about religion. We can take care of that ourselves at home and at church, thank you very much.

                    Your brother, James





                    Thomas have you ever look up the word confuse? According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary:

                    Main Entry: con·fuse
                    Pronunciation: k&n-'fyüz
                    Function: transitive verb
                    Inflected Form(s): con·fused; con·fus·ing
                    Etymology: back-formation from Middle English confused perplexed, from Middle French confus, from Latin confusus, past participle of confundere
                    Date: 14th century
                    1 archaic : to bring to ruin
                    2 a : to make embarrassed : size=-1ABASH b : to disturb in mind or purpose : size=-1THROW OFF
                    3 a : to make indistinct : size=-1BLUR <stop confusing the issue> b : to mix indiscriminately : size=-1JUMBLE c : to fail to differentiate from an often similar or related other <confuse money with comfort>

                    Get a grip Thomas!

                    Remember this -   GOD WILL PREVAIL 

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                        Atheists always use psuedo-facts and stories with that make no sense to bolster their arguments.  It's designed to frustrate and confuse, just as you pointed out Susan.  He has no clear logic for removing the term "God" from the pledge, so he resorts to trying to divert to a completely different argument and goes on a Christian-bashing mission.  Maybe I need better glasses, but I just don't see where Christianity is endorsed in the pledge of allegiance.

                         

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                          The term "God" is a judeo-christian term. It signifies a singular head and not-so-coincidentally is used explicitly in the Old and New Testaments.

                          If you really want "God" to stay in the pledge, ask for it to be changed to "all gods" or a better "all faiths".

                          To act like "God" is an ambiguous term is either ignorant or idiotic. Take your pick.

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                            I would like to put a positive spin on little Billy's exposure to prayer in school. Unlike his dad Billy took each experience in stride, not making any comment pro or con to the way other people expressed thier belief in God.

                            Left alone without the narrow mindness of his dad, Billy could grow up to be an understanding person who accepts others for what they are.

                            The tragedy of Thomas's little tale is that in his quest to eliminate God from school prayer, he is teaching his son to be a bigot.

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                              Quote: Originally posted by Loops on March 24, 2003



                              ....To act like "God" is an ambiguous term is either ignorant or idiotic....




                              Sorry, Loops, I think you should assign those terms to your post.  We weren't founded on the principles of greek mythology with a gaggle of gods, we were founded with the principle of one God.  Don't like it?  You're about 200+ years too late to do anything about it.

                               

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