Increasing Odds of Winning..SOSPrev Topic Next Topic

New Topic New Poll

Is it possible to increase the odds of winning the lottery in your favor using a:

wheel

[ 13 ]

[ 28.9% ]

system

[ 12 ]

[ 26.7% ]

Strategy

[ 20 ]

[ 44.4% ]

Total valid votes

[ 45 ]

Discarded votes

[ 11 ]

DonnaH

South Carolina
United States
Member #1,738
June 23, 2003
39 Posts
Offline

Jul 21, 2003, 5:46 pm

Everyone here at the Lottery Post have been great as I learn more. I enjoy each of your insight, wisdom, experience and humor. I am really on a quest to determine what's the issue with odds reduction and how could odds reduction effect the lottery since it is random?
Again, I value everyone's opinion and I certainly hope you will share your views.
Donna
kbcherokee

Virginia
United States
Member #1,712
June 20, 2003
1,549 Posts
Offline

Jul 21, 2003, 6:16 pm

Donna:
I think it's probably all of the above... The wheel I think improves your odds in winning but you have to have a pretty good idea of what #'s are going to "hit"
This is done by "tracking" the #'s either by a Chart or something you're comfortable with.
Strategy certainly plays a big roll also.
Ken
Andrew

Maryland
United States
Member #526
October 25, 2001
134 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 5:50 am

You know...
I realized after reading the vote options that Ken is right. Once you have a good working set of numbers, it takes a wheel to turn them into good sets of tickets.
"Random" pesimits willargue that the odds are the same, no matter what. But the player must find a way to increase his likely hood of a win. By using a system, he can guarentee with some degree of certainty that he will win higher tier prizes and more often based on his system's past performance.
Strategy comes into play when you have to decide how to spend the $$$ to buy the tickets. Strategy dictates how many numbers you will pick, and how many tickets you will wheel from your picked numbers.
From what I have seen and discussed, there is no doubt in my mind that wheeling numbers is an accepted standard in a lottery player's toolbox. Wheeling seems to have reached it's maximum performance levels, with a few software packages out there giving users everything they need to produce the finest wheels possible.
Picking numbers on the other hand, well, nothing thus far seems to give any consistent or reliable performance increase over randomly generated numbers. We still have alot of work to do in the number picking arena!

*Andrew*

WINHunter - Freeware Lottery Number Predicting software for the 21st century. NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

www.sourceforge.net/projects/winhunter
RJOh

100

mid-Ohio
United States
Member #9
March 24, 2001
20,272 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 10:56 am

Short of playing more lines, I haven't found a way to better the odds. I try to avoid repeating small combinations. When you wheel numbers, this can't be avoided, but if all the winning numbers are in the wheel, it will work to your advantage. I prefer not to wheel a small group of numbers but rather play all the numbers and limit the amount by not repeating combinations and playing within parameters of previous winners. The good thing about coming to this forum, you can get some ideas and test them in simulations before you apply them to pick the numbers you play. The longer I play the lotteries, the more I'm covinced that if you only play 20 or less lines per draw, you just got to get lucky because you can't reduce any system to that size.
RJOh
fja

100

United States
Member #91
January 19, 2002
16,125 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 12:12 pm

I believe you can improve your odds, but the percentage of improvement is minimal....take the first column number in megamillion, play numbers one through sdventeen and you have a 90 % chance of being right as my tracking sheet goes. now play numbers 39 through 52 on the fifth column and you have a 82% chance of being right on that column. Now try to work the first and last column into a winning combination and your odds of picking them both right is minimal....you have just improved your chances but you still need the luck of the draw to win.

"Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!" = W.C.Fields
hypersoniq

Pennsylvania
United States
Member #1,340
April 6, 2003
2,583 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 12:17 pm

you can never really factor out luck... I'm still learning the "system" part of it, dventually I can get into the wheels, but that will have to wait until I win enough of their money to play it with... :-)

Have an EXCELlent day!
Calscorp

Bakersfield
United States
Member #1,568
May 24, 2003
422 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 12:42 pm

Personally, I am looking at strategy. I have spent too much money on sytems that are only useful as a database or tracking numbers. Wheeling takes too much money and might not be bad if you won more than occasionally. I am tired of wasting money. I have always believed you make your own luck. So, I am definitely looking for a better way.
RJOh

100

mid-Ohio
United States
Member #9
March 24, 2001
20,272 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 1:44 pm

With Ohio649P jackpot being $31M, I might have to take a new look at wheeling. I was looking though my collections of wheels and I found two wheels for 49 numbers with a guarantee of 3 if 6 numbers are among the 49 and they are 163 and 168 lines long. I checked the wheel numbers without any exchange and they have matched 4 the last 3 draws with one 4+. A match 4 pays $100 and a 4+ pay $500 so for the last 3 draws I would have been ahead. If I can arrange the numbers in the wheel to fit within the perameters that I usually play, I might give it a try.
RJOh
golotto

Wisconsin
United States
Member #1,610
June 3, 2003
668 Posts
Offline

Jul 22, 2003, 6:16 pm
I'm curre
```
... the lottery never fails to surprise!
```
fja

100

United States
Member #91
January 19, 2002
16,125 Posts
Offline

Jul 23, 2003, 7:46 am

first column number right
fifth column number right
megaball (hot number of the year) right
combination of all column numbers wrong!
result: $6 on $15 worth of tickets

"Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!" = W.C.Fields
golotto

Wisconsin
United States
Member #1,610
June 3, 2003
668 Posts
Offline

Jul 23, 2003, 8:46 am
Just read that BOTH the Pennsylvania and Missouri Powerball tickets sharing the July 9 jackpot were also $5 tickets. I fully understand that the $5 denomination is just a very common way to purchase lotto tickets, and it is purely coincidental that the $5 figure keeps re-appearing in press releases. Nevertheless, I do find it fascinating that so many of the higher-end lotto prizes are being claimed with this quantity of number sets being played :)
```
... the lottery never fails to surprise!
```
hypersoniq

Pennsylvania
United States
Member #1,340
April 6, 2003
2,583 Posts
Offline

Jul 23, 2003, 8:52 am

If they did fill out full cards, they may have ditched the losers before claiming the prizes...

Have an EXCELlent day!
golotto

Wisconsin
United States
Member #1,610
June 3, 2003
668 Posts
Offline

Jul 23, 2003, 9:12 am
```
... the lottery never fails to surprise!
```
fja

100

United States
Member #91
January 19, 2002
16,125 Posts
Offline

Jul 23, 2003, 11:15 am

it will be hard to claim that you won the lottery because you only played $5 worth of tickets

"Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!" = W.C.Fields
RJOh

100

mid-Ohio
United States
Member #9
March 24, 2001
20,272 Posts
Offline

Jul 24, 2003, 9:25 am

Last evening I participated in Todd's Floridia challenge for LottoCheatah to post 5 lines for the lottery drawing, I posted 7 lines but all six numbers hit in the first 5 lines and I matched 3 on the first line. I have notice that many times when I play more than 10 lines for a drawing, if I hit anything worth a payout, it happen in the first ten and many times in the first 5. It could be that 5 lines are almost(odds wise) as good as 100 lines and playing more lines doesn't increase your chances that much. In Ohio and Indina, 5 lines is the most you can play on a Megamillions or Powerball tickets or QP slip, so even if you play more the winning numbers are going to be on a $5 slip.
RJOh

New Topic New Poll

Subscribe to this topic

Increasing Odds of Winning..SOSPrev TopicNext Topic

Increasing Odds of Winning..SOSPrev Topic Next Topic