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Has anyone tried Everett's New Program?

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Posted: June 27, 2003, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

Has anyone tried The new Fire and Ice Pick 3 selection system ??/  I am back testing it now to see how it does.  It did pick our midday number...it had 036.  Ours was 630.  It is very different from the chart thing..  it only gives you 4 selections to play.

If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

You never know when you will get another hit.

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    Posted: June 30, 2003, 9:50 am - IP Logged

    Littleoldlady,

    I just saw your message. I did not have very much time lately for being in the forum.

    There are certainly quite a few users of Fire and Ice out there.

    Here some additional info on how to use it that will help for backtracking and - of course - playing:

    The system combines a prediction system (of hot and cold numbers) with a wheeling system. It evaluates the draws for hot and cold numbers and wheels these.

    The most efficient results are with the recommended 2 hot numbers and 5 cold numbers, using the standard filters (CCH and CHH, whihc means that one or both hot numbers are in each predicted selection).

    The predictions are ranked. The predictions the system expects most likely, are in the front of the list.

    If you play only singles keep CCH and CHH as filters and get about 25 selections.

    If you play singles and doubles you can use CCH (only one hot number in each selection) to reduce the number of selections to 30.

    Test showed that to enter 10 previous drawings works well. You can easily copy the results for your own tracking data by using the Windows features Copy (Conrol-C) and Paste (Control-V). Same for copying the results into messages or documents.

    For others to try it out, here the link to the fully working demo version:

    http://www.tciworld.com/FIREANDICE/download.htm

    A version for PICK 4 lotteries is available at

    http://www.tciworld.com/FIREANDICE4/download.htm

    Good Luck...

    Recent Samples from CA (which I follow mainly)

    June 28 - 422 Straight

    Fire & Ice PICK 3 Wheeling System
    Draw entries: 10
    248 458 034 601 315 246 144 107 901 167

    Hot#: 2(14)
    Cold#: 5(92357)

    Hot/Cold Filters:
    CCH
    Number Filters:
    Singles Doubles

    Playing Suggestions: 30
    499 492 919 422 493 912 122 423 594 913
    312 433 479 519 524 313 453 472 512 719
    455 473 513 712 515 574 713 715 774 771

    June 27 - 248 Boxed

    Fire & Ice PICK 3 Wheeling System
    Draw entries: 10
    458 034 601 315 246 144 107 901 167 348

    Hot#: 2(14)
    Cold#: 5(29578)

    Hot/Cold Filters:
    CCH
    Number Filters:
    Singles Doubles

    Playing Suggestions: 30
    422 212 492 499 524 912 472 495 512 919
    455 479 482 519 712 489 515 574 719 812
    584 715 774 819 771 784 815 781 884 881


     

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      Posted: June 30, 2003, 11:45 am - IP Logged

      Hmmm....this is beginning to sound interesting, Everett.

      I follow CA lottos exclusively, please keep posting those results.

      O6/27 the payout for #248 was:

      Straight:        $429

      Boxed:              68

      Str/Bx/Str        249

      Box Only            34

      On 6/28 the payout for #422 was:

      Straight:      $357

      Boxed:            112

      Str/Bx/Str        233

      Box Only:          56

       

      Nice little profit even if a person played all 30 picks.  Even better if one selected only the first 15 0r so.

      As I have said before, my PC is old and pretty full, so I'm real cautious about downloading anything, or I would get Fire and Ice in a hot/cold minute.

      Thanks, keep those results and picks coming.

      Good Luck to All,

      Ellie

       

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        Posted: June 30, 2003, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

        Thanks for your response, Ellie!

        After today's Fire & Ice Lunch time hit you might look into getting 0.5 MB space (That's all it really needs!) to download Fice & Ice.

        Good Luck...

        June 30 - 798 Boxed

        color=#0000ccFire & Ice PICK 3 Wheeling System
        Draw entries: 10
        931 148 682 821 428 827 432 392 548 487

        Hot#: 2(28)
        Cold#: 5(05679)

        Hot/Cold Filters:
        CCH
        Number Filters:
        Singles Doubles

        Playing Suggestions: 30
        800 200 805 086 205 855 255 260 865 870
        089 265 270 866 875 209 266 275 786 859
        259 276 778 869 269 277 879 279 899 299

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          Posted: July 1, 2003, 7:30 am - IP Logged

          Everette, I blew it big time.&

          If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

          You never know when you will get another hit.

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            Posted: July 1, 2003, 8:59 am - IP Logged

            Lookin' good, Everett.

            CA 6/30 payout for #798:

            Straight:            $602

            Boxed                    96

            Stra/box              349

            Box only                48 

            When I get ready to play P3 (I'm currently focused on Fantasy Five) I will give it a test drive.

            Does Fire & Ice have a "positional" filter thingy?

            If I were to play P3 I would probably play "Box", but it would be great if one could have some certainty of position, then playing "straight/box" would make sense.

            Thanks for your posts.

            Ellie

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              Posted: July 1, 2003, 11:49 am - IP Logged

              Littleoldlady,

              There will be plenty of time to use the system, and there will be many opportunities still to come.

              Ellie,

              Positioning: The system is a combination of prediction and wheeling system. It is selecting the numbers from the boxed possible combinations. Part of the "ranking" feature is to put the digits wihtin the number in the most likely postions according - to its internal system of of course. So it has a "positional" evaluation "thingy" that it is using to try to improve the position. I guess that is particularly why I like F&I, it does not need very much input, has only few filters.

              To talk more about positioning.

              For the "Straight Only" player the System ZID is available too. It is also a hot and cold based system and wheel, but it evaluates every position separately. That actually brings some interesting combination selection up, because the hot and cold numbers might differ very much from one position to the other....

              In addition the system selects - because it is based on position - its numbers from all of the 1000 straight possibilities, which makes it come up with same boxed numbers at times. There are of course more predictions in this system because it expects mainly straight or at least straight/boxed players. So you have to play more numbers to play straight only. This system also contains more filters to reduce the number of selections: Odd/Even and High/Low.

              It also requires at least two more previous draw entries (12) to have enough data for the the prediction process...

              During the testing of this system it became immediately clear the the system works way better


              • when used combined (Midday/Evening). and

              • making hot and cold numbers equal (e.g. 3 hot 3 cold).

              Completely different then F&I.

              Here last night's California results using System Zid as an example:

              June 30 - 328 Straight/Boxed hit

              System ZID - PICK 3 Straight Wheeling
              Draw entries: 12
              606 422 248 458 034 601 798 931 148 682
              821 428
              Hot/Cold Selections
              Pos. 1: Hot# 3(864) Cold# 3(537)
              Pos. 2: Hot# 3(042) Cold# 3(716)
              Pos. 3: Hot# 3(218) Cold# 3(573)

              Filter Settings
              Hot/Cold: CCH CHH
              High/Low: HHL HLL
              Odd/Even: OOE OEE
              Num.Type: Singles Doubles

              Playing Suggestions: 120
              475 525 325 378 415 425 477 478 518 527
              528 545 318 327 328 345 417 418 427 445
              465 471 473 505 521 523 547 548 572 615
              625 725 305 347 348 368 372 405 447 467
              472 507 508 512 522 541 543 561 617 618
              627 645 671 673 718 727 728 745 815 825
              307 308 361 407 461 463 501 503 542 562
              605 611 613 623 647 672 705 721 723 747
              748 772 817 818 827 845 871 873 362 502
              607 612 643 661 663 707 708 712 722 741
              743 761 805 811 813 823 847 872 603 701
              703 742 762 807 812 843 861 863 702 803

              Of course way more numbers which can definitely be reduced to a certain extent, no doubles, etc. Still the system also contains  a ranking system, it is apparent that the winning number 328 was fairly high up there.

              To play around with the System ZID for a while. It can be downloaded also as a fully working demo at

              http://www.tciworld.com/SYSTEMZID/download.htm

               Thanks for your time reading all this info.

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                Posted: July 1, 2003, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

                Everett, you did not tell me t

                If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                You never know when you will get another hit.

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                  Posted: July 1, 2003, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

                  Littleoldlady,

                  Sorry about that. But then, I did not want to offer a selection of 60 numbers either. The sum of 644 is 14 though.

                  Good Luck,

                  ME

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                    Posted: July 2, 2003, 7:57 am - IP Logged

                    You know I use vtracs...in vtracs the sum is 12.  It also had the 401 for last night which was the due sum of 8.  I am beginning to think that if I use my chart and this little program, I can eliminate a lot of the garbage and gets more hits....By the way, today's due sums in vtracs are 5 and 8(midday)....I am also going to try to back test this program in vtracs to see if it can do it.

                    If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                    You never know when you will get another hit.

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                      Posted: July 2, 2003, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

                      THE SUM OF 5 CAME IN VTRAC 131....YES, IT WAS THERE.  Yes, I blew it again..forgot the 070 in vtrac 131..played all of the rest.  yes, I think I am on the right track...just got to not mess up when making out tickets...that is my downfall.  By the way, it was in there straight.

                      If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                      You never know when you will get another hit.

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                        hello is there any number for florida and illinois? I am in the Bahamas thank you

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                          Posted: July 11, 2003, 9:16 pm - IP Logged

                          I just downloaded Fire & Ice. Havent had the oppurtunity to try  it yet , but already am impressed by its simplicity. Hope it turns out a few hits  for me & SC!!

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                            Posted: July 18, 2003, 4:59 pm - IP Logged

                            hi, not knowing anyting abo

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                              Posted: July 18, 2003, 5:21 pm - IP Logged

                              danterri2 - what state do you play? download the free demo on fire and ice and i strongly suggest you download the zid system demo. emily

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