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• solemntruth

  

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  There are some people on this board, who are trying to mind my E-store and they can't mind their own. In my E-store I render services to people, who may want to do business online. My business is to protect my clients joining First TN Powerball Group of Shelby County. I don't work for dog biscuits nor bones. What I charge in my E-store for my services is my business. You don't like what I charge, then go somewhere else to shop.

  I bet you a dollar to a donut these so called critics keep everyone out of their own business, but they want to run our prospective customers away.

  It cost me a lot of time, money and energy to design my E-Store. I hope to recoup my investments. I have joined community message boards to introduce myself to the community. I have attempted to avail sufficient contact information in my profile. So, before you go around spreading false gossip and rumors, talk to me first and obtain the facts.
• Colin F

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  SolemnTruth

  This is the solemn truth.
  

  I have no objection to anyone running an honest business and giving value for money service.

  You chose to advertise your wares for free in a forum where Lottery methods/systems/scams etc are looked at very critically.

  Because I believe in free enterprise, a fair go and a reasonable return for one's efforts I will not advertise anything in this forum where I receive a return before placing an advertisement in Todd's banner advert so he gets a bit of return (albeit most probably negative for this Forum). There are various ad's that go there which members may not agree with but leave alone because they are paid ad's and we don't wish to subvert a source of income to Todd because in terms of time and effort he is subsidizing the pleasure we get from this Forum.

  I understand you are a returned Veteran and you deserve respect for that. However, because of that you can't claim exemption from critical analysis and the normal mores of commerce.

  Colin 
• BobP

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by solemntruth on May 15, 2004
  

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  There are some people on this board, who are trying to mind my E-store and they can't mind their own. In my E-store I render services to people, who may want to do business online. My business is to protect my clients joining First TN Powerball Group of Shelby County. I don't work for dog biscuits nor bones. What I charge in my E-store for my services is my business. You don't like what I charge, then go somewhere else to shop.

  I bet you a dollar to a donut these so called critics keep everyone out of their own business, but they want to run our prospective customers away.

  It cost me a lot of time, money and energy to design my E-Store. I hope to recoup my investments. I have joined community message boards to introduce myself to the community. I have attempted to avail sufficient contact information in my profile. So, before you go around spreading false gossip and rumors, talk to me first and obtain the facts.

  
  

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  This is a lottery discussion board, we can discuss anything lottery related we please including your e-store, we don't need your permission.
  
  Frankly if that template designed site cost you any more then the cost of hosting I'd be surprised, doesn't even look like you had the confidence to purchase a domain name for it.
  
  The problem with your site is your lack of honesty regarding what it cost to play.  There is no clear break down of where the money goes. 
  
  There is no physical contact information and no contract detailing how a win will be handled.  People are supposed to send money off to you and hope you will do the right thing. 
  
  People here didn't just fall off the turnip truck you know.  If you can't do it right maybe you shouldn't have decided to wing it.  BobP

  From the faq at http://www.powerball.com/
  
  Powerball tickets are not currently available over the internet. Any internet lottery site that purports to sell Powerball tickets, or shares of Powerball tickets to purchasers are not authorized by the Multi-State Lottery Association or any state lottery. These sites are not regulated and are deemed by lotteries and state attorney generals as fraudulent and should not be trusted.

  
   
• RJOh

  

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  Solemnturth,

  First you try to start a discussion with a bogus opinion about tax deductions for membership fees in a Tennessee lottery tickets purchase scheme. Then you start a discussion on picking lottery numbers, and follow it with some fussy math to prove a player could buy a lottery ticket for 14¢ by paying $50 for 15 tickets as a member of a 12 man team. Some members questioned your claims and now you say their comments and questions were not helpful or interfered with your E-store. 

  This is the first time you've mentioned anything about any E-business, I thought you were posting your opinions for discussions.  All the posts I've read have been a response to what you had actually posted, not your home page.  If you feel someone has treated you unfairly or broken the rules posted by Todd (the webmaster) on the left of this page, there is a report bottom to the top right of each post to alert him to investigate.

  RJOh

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• keystonechas

  

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  I looked at solemntruth's posts and home page and frankly there's a foul smell in the air. This guy is the flim flam man  and a snake oil salesman all rolled into one. If Todd is anyway associated with this, I must admit I'm sadly disappointed.

  Chas
• dragon

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  Quote: Originally posted by solemntruth on May 15, 2004
  

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  There are some people on this board, who are trying to mind my E-store and they can't mind their own. In my E-store I render services to people, who may want to do business online. My business is to protect my clients joining First TN Powerball Group of Shelby County. I don't work for dog biscuits nor bones. What I charge in my E-store for my services is my business. You don't like what I charge, then go somewhere else to shop.

  I bet you a dollar to a donut these so called critics keep everyone out of their own business, but they want to run our prospective customers away.

  It cost me a lot of time, money and energy to design my E-Store. I hope to recoup my investments. I have joined community message boards to introduce myself to the community. I have attempted to avail sufficient contact information in my profile. So, before you go around spreading false gossip and rumors, talk to me first and obtain the facts.

  
  

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  Sorry, but the nature of a forum is active discussion. Sometimes people respond in unexpected ways. People are critical of commercial ulterior motives. When you post in a public forum, you had better be prepared for the heat. Everyone else here is entitled to his or her own opinion, just like you are. Sometimes that gets uncomfortable. This crowd here has established a set of norms and expectations, and deviating from  those gets firestorms of reactions. But that's no different than any other community, live or virtual.
• solemntruth

  

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  Please accept my apology. I failed to make myself clear. I simply wanted to let our community know that I have developed a Plan of Action for lottery players to receive 180 chances to match 4 or more Whiteball numbers alone, or in conjunction with the Powerball number. Since, I didn't say it like I should have said it, then it made it sound as if I had concocted some type of gimmick.

  I am only human. As you mentioned, this is a lottery discussion. I believe my topic is relevant. Forgive me, I am truly sorry. Let's start over.
• Winner2Be

  

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• Todd

  

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  May 16, 2004, 11:27 pm

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  Quote: Originally posted by keystonechas on May 16, 2004
  

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  I looked at solemntruth's posts and home page and frankly there's a foul smell in the air. This guy is the flim flam man  and a snake oil salesman all rolled into one. If Todd is anyway associated with this, I must admit I'm sadly disappointed.

  Chas

  
  

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  Sad that you would associate me with something you don't like.  Why not accuse someone else?  Why me?

  I hope Chas is not involved with it, because I would be very sadly disappointed if he were.  (See my point?)
  

   

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• keystonechas

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Todd on May 16, 2004
  

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  Quote: Originally posted by keystonechas on May 16, 2004
  

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  I looked at solemntruth's posts and home page and frankly there's a foul smell in the air. This guy is the flim flam man  and a snake oil salesman all rolled into one. If Todd is anyway associated with this, I must admit I'm sadly disappointed.

  Chas

  
  

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  Sad that you would associate me with something you don't like.  Why not accuse someone else?  Why me?

  I hope Chas is not involved with it, because I would be very sadly disappointed if he were.  (See my point?)
  

  
  

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  No I don't see your point.

  Why you Todd?

  I have'nt seen you make any public comment that you're against this scam artist posting a link to Lottery Post on his home page so we must assume you endorse it?

  Chas
  
• emilyg

  

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  i most certainly don't assume that.

  love to nibble those micey feet.

   

                               
• BobP

  

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  Hmmm, let's all take a step back and a couple of deep breaths.
  
  The impression Todd might have anything to do with Solemntruth's web site just because it links back to Lotterypost is an error, perhaps in part due to the post suggesting Solemntruth take out an ad on Lotterypost if he wanted to advertise and another suggesting Solemntruth appeal his complaints to Todd.
  
  I suppose we all like to see Todd come down on the scammers without having to click the [Report!] button.  Lack of action isn't proof of approval as we know how busy Todd is.
  
  Ok, so here goes: 
  
  Todd:  There appears to be something scammy with the web site Solemntruth is stealth advertising for.  Visit the site and you will find it created in a way potential customers have no way of finding out who he is, how the money will be spent or where it is going (lotto luck collecting).  The site is hosted in a way that blocks all information about it.  Much of the information is wrong, such as claimming a lottery pool is tax deductable or that a 4# win can be guaranteed with the amount being supposedly spent.
  
  At first I thought these things might be left out by a guy winging it in the hopes of paying for things later, like a business license out of profits, but the more I look at the site the more I realize how much thought must have gone into being able to take people's money and vanish without a trace.  BobP
• RJOh

  

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  Some of the members here are starting to sound like some of the members at the old Maybelle site just before the webmasters said "To Hell with it all" and closed the site down. If anyone doesn't like the way Todd runs his site, maybe it time they started their own.

  RJOh 

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• dragon

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  Anyone can put any link to any site on any web site.

  Just because there is a link to Lottery Post doesn't mean Lottery Post had any say in it.

  So why would anybody suspect that there is an endorsement of any sort involved?

  I am sure  by now solemntruth's head is spinning, scam or not.
• Colin F

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  Quote: Originally posted by keystonechas on May 16, 2004
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  I looked at solemntruth's posts and home page and frankly there's a foul smell in the air. This guy is the flim flam man  and a snake oil salesman all rolled into one. If Todd is anyway associated with this, I must admit I'm sadly disappointed.

  Chas

  
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  KeyStoneChas

  I restrained myself from replying to this Post until Todd responded, but would now like to say I was astonished that you made such a connection and insult. By his own statements and there are a few Todd has a fervent zeal for exposing scams. 

  Posted: February 13, 2004 at 2:04pm - IP Logged

  Of course they paid you the measly $5.50!  It probably took you a bunch of times even to win that $5.50.  How much did you spend?  And since they never buy the lottery tickets, how much do you think they got off of you?

  One of the best things you can do now is to realize that you've been ripped off for some time now, and move on.

  What if you get lucky and actually hit the jackpot, and they have no ticket to give you?  How will you feel then?

  One of the main reasons behind participating on a forum like this is to learn from others who have experience.  Hopefully I've been able to impart my experience and knowledge in this area so that you won't get ripped off.  I would humbly say that I am one of the most experienced people here in the area of lottery ticket services, so this isn't just chit-chat.

   

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  I think I've been around this site long enough to get a familiarity with some of the members areas of expertise. Without mentioning names there is amongst
  the members specialists in Lotto Systems, Probability, Wheeling, Excel, Access etc. Where else can you find a more intelligent bunch of people to bounce your ideas off? And who makes it all possible? Todd - through his subsidization with time, effort, utilization of capital and most probably income from his profitable business interests.

  Having been in business for close to 30 years I see in this Forum a tremendous investment or utilization of capital, time and effort without a lot of return to the point of making me feel guilty. To me it's like a Club without any member's fees and where one member is providing all the Assets and Administration. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

  Now having been falsely accused of dishonesty recently I can tell you that while one can shrug off the accusation as being more a reflection on the accuser I would have to say if I was in Todd's shoes and using my vernacular that I would be thinking -  after all I've done for these buggers this is the thanks I get - stuff 'em.

  Let's hope I'm wrong.

  Colin