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• WIN D

  

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   I don't get it. Roots are not evenly matched.

   Only 10 Root 0's

          13 root 1's

          23 root 8's .....??????  How can ya tell if 8's are hot....or Zero's are due? I don't get it.

   Anybody got a Root Sum chart to paste.....? Thanks

  

   

   

  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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• Blackapple

  

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  Could you rephrase your question

  and give examples please?
• Clipper

  

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  WIN D = The only Root Sums I am familiar with dont have a Root Sum 0 except for the 000 combination.  Everything else is either Root Sum 1 through Root Sum 9. 

  Something that has a Total Sum of 19 can be reduced to 10 which can be subsequently reduced to 1.  Therefore anything that has a Total Sum of 10 or 19 will have the Root Sum 1 or the only other combination 001.    Anything that has a Total Sum of 2-11 or 20 will have a Root Sum 2.

  For Root Sum 3 has to be 3-12-21, Root Sum 4 will be 4-13-22; Root Sum 5 will be 5-14-23, Root Sum 6 will be 6-15-24; Root Sum 7 will be anything that has Total Sum 7-16-25;  Root Sum 8 will be 8-17-26 and Root Sum 9 will be 9-18-27.

  I Also use another method I call Root Sum by taking the 5 Even digits and pairing them together for 02-04-06-08-24-26-28-46-48-68 or the 5 Odd digits and pairing them for 13-15-17-18-35-37-39-57-59-79.  The I take the Sum of the 2 digit pairs as the "root" of a combination I expect to be either 2 E/1O or 2 O/1E.

  I have a Root Sum Chart for the first method mentioned, however, it wont copy/paste into the forum as it's also color coded.
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  Blackapple can you explain, give an example or thread on how to come up with the numbers for the sum flow chart. 

  our latest numbers 171(d),717(n),745(d),964(n),910(d),086(n)

  Thanks. 
• WIN D

  

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   Thanks folks.

    OK... Root Zero's  199 379 388 469 478  559 568 577 667 000 = 10 root zero's

    Most of those are under Sum 9 ....000 is only exception Sum (0)

    We still have off balance totals for most all of them like the 23 root 8's ....so I don't get how you can use them .....as far as hot cold etc. Thanks 

  

   

   

  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                         Win d    
• WIN D

  

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   OK ...... I see some folks call the short Sums chart " Root sums" 

    The 10 column Sums chart...0 through 9 (not the big chart of Sums( 0 through 27)

    I use the 10 column Sum chart cause it's even and balanced....easy.

    But.... I see some folks say root meaning the total of the number 123=6 root.  

      The way I see it ..... We have the 1. Big Sums Chart ( 0-27)

                                                            2. The 10 column Sums chart (0-9)

                                                            3. then Roots..... which is just adding the total of the number. Ex. 234=root 9 Sum #9.

   777=(Big Chart) Sum 21  Root #3   .......or 10 column chart sum#1 and with a root of #3 

   But....... no matter what chart we use, the number of roots is un even. 

  

   

   

  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                         Win d    
• Clipper

  

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  WIN D = All those combinations given that have Sum Total 19 I consider Root Sum 1....not 0.

  I track the Root Sum's by the Root Sum that plays....0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9.  Then I try to figure out if the next Root Sum will be higher or lower then the last, Odd or Even.  I've also found that the Root Sum tracking works a little like the 10 digit tracking in that the Root Sum that happens often has happened within the last 4 games. 

  You probably cant figure on this happening for an extended period of time as you can the digital tracking so it probably reaches out and picks up a Root Sum that hasnt played in 5 or more games before returning to a pattern of something that happened in the most recent 4 games.
• Clipper

  

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  I use both the Sums 0-27 and the Root Sums 0-9 in tracking however it's only  been recent that I've been using the 0-9 tracking. 

  Mainly I have relied on the 0-27 because I break those Sums down into 3 categories: Singles (0-10), Teens (11-20) and Twenties (21-27).  I number the catergories and track those digits (1-2-3) and most of the time it is Teens that play so I can eliminate combinations in the Singles & Twenties to consider.
• WIN D

  

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   Thanks for staying with me on this.

   OK.... how many Root 2's are there?  I count 24 right?

      I count 26 root 4's  and 23 Root 7's  and 27 root 6's

    Am I doin this right? 

  

   

   

  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                         Win d    
• NBey6

  

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  				Sum/Root Table
  1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9
  001	002	003	004	005	006	007	008	009
  019	011	012	013	014	015	016	017	018
  028	029	039	022	023	024	025	026	027
  037	038	048	031	041	033	034	035	036
  046	047	057	049	050	069	079	044	045
  055	056	048	058	059	078	088	089	099
  118	119	057	067	068	114	115	116	117
  127	128	066	112	077	123	124	125	126
  136	137	111	139	113	159	133	134	135
  145	146	129	148	122	168	169	179	144
  199	155	138	157	149	177	178	188	189
  235	227	147	166	158	222	223	224	225
  244	236	156	229	167	249	259	233	234
  262	245	228	238	239	258	268	269	279
  289	299	237	247	248	267	277	278	288
  334	335	246	256	257	339	349	359	333
  379	344	255	337	266	348	358	368	369
  388	389	336	346	338	357	367	377	378
  469	479	345	355	347	366	448	449	459
  478	488	399	445	356	447	457	458	468
  559	569	444	499	446	456	466	467	477
  568	578	489	589	455	555	556	557	558
  577	668	579	679	599	699	799	566	567
  667	677	588	688	689	789	889	899	666
  		669	778	779	888			999
  		678		788
  		777

  
  
  
• WIN D

  

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  NBey6  Thank Goodness. Thank you ....Thank you very Much.  Hah...no Root 10 column. I thought I was going crazzzy.  That was the problem. No way to make it an even distribution of numbers.

   Very Good ...... the first time I have ever seen a "Root Chart" posted!  

   Please post this Chart up on the :  "Systems Forum"  This is great for everybody to see and refer to from now on.

    Thanks again for posting... thanks everyone. 

  

   

   

  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                         Win d    
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• Clipper

  

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  Thanks NBey = That's the Root Chart I have but it's color coded and wouldnt copy/paste into Message box.
• Blackapple

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Clipper on June 05, 2004
  

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  WIN D = All those combinations given that have Sum Total 19 I consider Root Sum 1....not 0.

  I track the Root Sum's by the Root Sum that plays....0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9.  Then I try to figure out if the next Root Sum will be higher or lower then the last, Odd or Even.  I've also found that the Root Sum tracking works a little like the 10 digit tracking in that the Root Sum that happens often has happened within the last 4 games. 

  You probably cant figure on this happening for an extended period of time as you can the digital tracking so it probably reaches out and picks up a Root Sum that hasnt played in 5 or more games before returning to a pattern of something that happened in the most recent 4 games.

  
  

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    An classic example of this is possible

    for the VA.nite lottery.The roots 3-5-7

      are the results after I did a workout

    starting from 826 on 6/5

    Here the sum of 826=16 is 7

    Could 7 just back around?

     

  
   
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  Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on June 05, 2004
  

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  NBey6  Thank Goodness. Thank you ....Thank you very Much.  Hah...no Root 10 column. I thought I was going crazzzy.  That was the problem. No way to make it an even distribution of numbers.

   Very Good ...... the first time I have ever seen a "Root Chart" posted!  

   Please post this Chart up on the :  "Systems Forum"  This is great for everybody to see and refer to from now on.

    Thanks again for posting... thanks everyone. 

  
  

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  It is the same chart I have posted a few times.  I made it up in Excel and I include the 0 (000)!! 

  The only state that I track the root sums in is California.  I have not seen any correlation using that.  The sum jumps do work well in California but not all states.