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Using the CRUNCH - 220 Draws Method

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Posted: June 18, 2004, 11:04 pm - IP Logged

Hi MikeK,

Could you explain Priority 5, 4, 3 and 2?

Do the Priorities represent the number of times that combination appeared?

I don't understand the numbers in parenthesis.



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    November 25, 2003
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    Posted: June 18, 2004, 11:37 pm - IP Logged

    Win D,

    Almost understandable the translation. Dankeschoen and funny. It took me a while to get back online in the speed that I require for my business. The move to Las Vegas, even though not yet completely finished, took longer and was way more expensive than we anticipated.

    Here the bad story: Last week we found an apartment. Put half of the stuff in, Scanner, Printer, Keyboards, TV and so on and so on, went back to the Hotel/Casino for another Night of testing the Video/Slots 166% System that I am working on. Coming back the next morning, Apartment broken open, everything gone. Had a hard time getting the Rent money back, first Encounter with the Las Vegas PD, no chance for getting the equipment back. The Officer referred us to another Apartment complex - had to stay in the Hotel another four days - and finally moved this week.  Tough luck and way too expensive the whole thing.

    But I am finally online again. I hope it is safer here.


    To your questions...

    The Priority stands - as you realized correctly - for how often the numbers occur in the input field. The word Priority might not have been picked well, but I could not come up with something else at that time.

    Priority : 5

    The numbers the number before the parenthesis shows the first number in the input list and the ones inside the parenthesis are the other numbers the program found that have the same boxed number, top to bottom.

    In this case /+B/ creates a list of all 220 boxed numbers before the list starts.

    More to come later, Good Luck and thanks again,

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      Posted: June 19, 2004, 12:17 am - IP Logged

      mike, i think we need to know the tips Ron uses; anyone hitting that many times in a row must be doing something a little different don't you think?

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        Posted: June 19, 2004, 1:01 am - IP Logged

        I just checked the last 50 draws in California to see how many hits each draw had in the previous 220 draws.  Here are my results:

        0 = 16

        1 = 17

        2 = 8

        3 = 6

        4 = 1

        5 = 1

        6 = 0

        7 = 1

        Of course the pool of numbers is larger in the 0 and 1 hit groups.  I don't want to try to figure it out, but it would be interesting to see what percentage each of those are to the number in the group.  In other words, 3 hits in the last 220 draws is only 6 times, but how many possible numbers were there??? 

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          Posted: June 19, 2004, 9:24 am - IP Logged


          There are certainly some interesting ideas involved (and quite a few tickets!).

          The tickets show a few of yesterday's Missouri 984 hits.


          That is an interesting chart. I might be interesting to evaluate that further. I have to look into that. Singles (6-Way), Doubles (3-Way), and Triples (1-Way) might have to be separated to get a clean list.

          Good Luck!


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            Posted: June 19, 2004, 11:48 am - IP Logged

            Answering a PM Question.

            I was asked why the Crunch is not using the 10-column sum rather than 0 to 27.  I did not know about the 10-column sum, but found it in an older Win D post.

            Apparently you can reduce reduce the number further by using all sums and - correct me if I am wrong the conversion from 10-column sums to "normal" sums seems relatively easy and should look like this:

            10-column ("single") sum Conversion

            Single Sum






















            Good Luck!

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              Posted: June 20, 2004, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

              Impressively enough after Friday's winning tickets in Missouri here Saturday's Winning CRUNCH Ticket:

              GOOD LUCK!

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                Posted: June 20, 2004, 11:23 pm - IP Logged

                Hey Mike, ICU1 when using the CRUNCH, are you using past drawing history from midday and evening drawings or just from one of the drawings?

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                  Posted: June 20, 2004, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

                  About the 10-column ("single") sum Conversion.

                  It's just another alternative similar filter, like the 0 to 9 sum root chart, it does not replace the 0 to 27 sums, it just another alternative for those who prefer to use it, instead of the others, or you can use both, one for some past draw(s) and another for other(s), one chart does not replace the other, they complement each other, or at one particular time you might want to use one of them and at another time the other, it all depends on the particular situation, there are many pick 3 filters, but that does not mean that you have to use all of them at the same time, it all depends omon the particular situation, some times you need one and sometimes another(s).

                  The more filters the better, just know when to use what, and when not to use this or that.


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                    Posted: June 21, 2004, 12:04 am - IP Logged

                    Exactly Right, Lantern

                    I think I would call it something like "abbreviated sum". But then when you have the 0-27 filters you can of course create all of these 10-column things by using this converter.

                    Good Luck!

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                      Posted: June 21, 2004, 11:47 am - IP Logged

                      Mike K,

                      What's this talk about a new version of the Crunch?

                      Many of us are just getting this one down as far as usage goes.  Who would've thought you got robbed you are a busy beaver in terms of cranking out systems.

                      Any thoughts of creating the crunch for the pick 4, or the mastermind for the pick 4

                      I love the pick 4 games with its high payout and using your tools makes the payouts SWEET

                      Webmaster LeRoy

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                        Posted: June 21, 2004, 11:48 am - IP Logged

                        What "handle" does Ron post under?

                        We at the lottery post would love to hear his insight on the crunch and his tips.

                        Webmaster leRoy

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                          Posted: June 21, 2004, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

                          Hello, Mike,

                          Wow!  I really had no idea that my winning results and tickets would be posted all over the internet or on this web site.  Anyway, I guess that I should be flattered, and at the very least, I am quite impressed. 

                          It seems that many of your followers have a lot of questions about using The Crunch and how to best win with it.  I do think that you are indeed the expert here since you designed the system anyway. 

                          Now, as I was browsing through the archives and the website, I noticed that you had mentioned something about an updated version of The Crunch and also a similar product for the Pick 4 games.  Please keep me informed as to when it is to be released as I would most certainly like to check it out. 

                          And just for the record, I continue to win the Pick 3 in Missouri daily.  Lately, I have been getting a lot of straight hits so that is why it made more sense to me to start buying multiple tickets.  The games here in Missouri pay $598 for a $1Straight and $100 for a $1Box.  There is only one drawing per day, held every evening at about 7pm.  I never watch the results on television because I really don't want to know the results right away.  I always wait until late at night and get them off the internet. 

                          I can further say that using The Crunch has altered dramatically how I play the Pick 3.  Let's just say that to play without it, would be like going to play baseball without a bat.  You can't hit the ball if you don't have a bat.  THE CRUNCH IS THE BAT WHICH HITS THE BALL!

                          It is also interesting to note that I have to now buy tickets at several different places as I have attracted way too much attention to myself.  Part of it is my own fault.  You know that thing called "ego"?  Yeah, that's right, your ego likes center stage and sometimes is blinded by all of the attention.  Now, of course, I am more serious about business because  I truly believe that my winning ways were no fluke.  It did take me quite awhile to believe this, however.  Everything happens for a reason and all in due season. 

                          There are a couple of people here in Lottery Post Forum that I have been sharing with and I think that Mike knows who they are but I don't want to name them unless they want to do that themselves. 

                          There is one person that I do want to thank openly, however, and that is Libra Dave.  Why?  Because of his generosity and for helping me to get started in the Pick 3 games.  Before Libra Dave's insightful knowledge, I knew very little about the Pick 3 Lottery Games.  Everything else that I learned came from backtesting and voracious reading.  I saw that what most people were doing were ways to lose, not win.  So, from there it seemed more like an elimination process of what not to do.  The big thing with me, however, was CONSISTENCY.  I wanted consistency more than anything else.  I don't believe that one can be successful playing in this arena if you cannot hit the ball consistently. 

                          Okay, I talk way too much and really, I just wanted to say a few things since I saw all of this attention focused on me.  Good luck everyone!


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                            Posted: June 21, 2004, 12:20 pm - IP Logged


                            New CRUNCH and CRUNCH 4: There will be some internal Lottery Group announcements coming out shortly with the plans and versions of new releases and updates. Members do have a say in the priorities. Staty tuned for that!

                            I do not know whether Ron is on this forum. I do not think so, but I do not know. He is using the CRUNCH for more than a month now, and send me updates with winning tickets that are obviously CRUNCH numbers you can see that by comparing all numbers on the winning ticket.

                            Once I obtain further info, I will certainly offer it, in the newsletter or here.

                            Good Luck!

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                              Posted: June 23, 2004, 11:28 am - IP Logged


                              Thanks for your message and for stepping in.

                              I must have missed it while answering LeRoy's message. Many are eager to know more about your ways of selecting numbers using the CRUNCH. So feel free to elborate.

                              the CRUNCH allows very many approaches. It was designed to be open. There is always more than one way to get to the expected results.

                              I am posting my recent methods in different threads to show some of the functionality of the system and the methods I see as promising.

                              Good Luck to you, Ron. And thanks again for your comments, input and winning tickets!