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Root Sum Counseling

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Posted: June 24, 2004, 6:11 pm - IP Logged

I have been spending the last 2 weeks in research mode----not buying any tickets, not using my old methods, basically trying out new things.

The conclusion I have come to is that the Root Sum is going to be my main filter.  But the problem is I cannot figure out how to filter it............I have taken midday to midday, evening to evening, midday to evening and evening to midday and there does not really seem to be a pattern there. I have done odd and even.....all kinds of things.  There simply must be a way.

I have done Blackapple's root sum finder using his pair finder and that does not work.  I have eliminated the last 7 root sums and that does not work. 

I think that it would be awesome if someone has that knowledge to get a couple of root sums with accuracy even at 75 percent and use that knowledge with "The Crunch" to come up with the final digits.

Hey, I am trying........and I found if you ask you might find out something new and I am always open to new ideas.  So any that you have would be appreciated and welcome.

Sandy

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    Posted: June 24, 2004, 6:14 pm - IP Logged

    Actually, now that I think about it....................that is a good new project for you, Mike K.......................something with a root sum filter with just that as the main focus of the program, no draw digits, just the root sum.

    Sandy


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      Posted: June 24, 2004, 6:14 pm - IP Logged

      Yes Sandy,

      Root Sums are an excellent method but how do we get there?

      In IL even those that have come in come back to quick to predict

       

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        Posted: June 24, 2004, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

        Hi Sandy

        If I remember correctly you said you had versabet 3/4.

        I always had a real big problem on figuring roots and sums when they were in a playable zone.
        About 4 weeks ago I created two new games in my versabet. One for roots and one for sums.
        I went back about 100 draws and entered the root and sums in their newly created game for them.
        For the roots I entered in the three digit game boxes. The root number drawn placed in the first box and box 2 and 3 the digit zero. From there I can look at the hit skip in the pair search and the combo search for the hit median of that root. In the root search I will have the hit percentile for each root in its skip zone.
        For the sums I entered the sums in the first two boxes. The sums below 10 I entered the 0 first then the sum digit below 10 like 080. I done the sums below 10 in this manner to find the hit median in exact pr position 1 and 2 more easily. Then I do my search the same as mentioned for the root.

        I have had a very good degree of accuracy doing them in this manner..
        Doing them in their own created game has given me a broader search area in the versabet search options.

        MAGA

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          Posted: June 24, 2004, 7:22 pm - IP Logged

          Revisiting Mink404ski's

           "Sums system for all States" post

           might be a place for research

            I usually have to wait for the right

           configuration of the digits & need a 7 day

            window. I will search the lotteries for an example.

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            Posted: June 24, 2004, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

            If Mink404ski's sums are reduced to root

            sums( Example: 11=2, 12=3,13=4) its most

              promising.The challenge is connecting

              these single roots with combos.Where

                there is a will,there is a way. I have not

              found it yet.

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              Posted: June 24, 2004, 11:19 pm - IP Logged

              Sandy,

              The "sums column" (just the ones digit of the sum) works very well in California, but not as well in the other states (Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida) that I track.  The Root Sums doesn't have any correlation that I can find. 

              Here is the "jump" chart for California.  By "jump" I mean the difference in the sum column from the previous draw.






              5=23


              +4=25


              +3=34


              +2=34


              +1=49


              0=30


              -1=44


              -2=39


              -3=34


              -4=46


              Total=358




              Other states are not that clear cut.  Notice Texas:






              5=


              19


              +4=


              19


              +3=


              18


              +2=


              23


              +1=


              26


              0=


              18


              -1=


              20


              -2=


              23


              -3=


              25


              -4=


              20




              Too close to call!!

              So, the root sums may work in some states and the sum columns in others. 

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                modesto
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                Posted: June 24, 2004, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

                I haven't had any luck either I like to use

                them best to get rid of combos more than predict.

                from time to time you'll see roots flip back and

                forth with different roots like root -4-6-8

                if 6 hit than 4 or 8 would back and forth.

                but it doesn't last long and you have to pay

                attention to the next one.versabet stuff

                sounds good but I like deleting more than

                predicting. try predicting what won't rather

                than what will...

                good luck chris

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                  Posted: June 25, 2004, 6:08 am - IP Logged

                  Thank you all.

                  Dude, I never understand your stuff but thank you, I will look at it again closer and see if I can.

                  John, thanks for the versabet tip.......no, I don't have Versabet 3/4...I have the original versabet.  It irked me that he wanted so much money for the upgrade and I am a stubborn cuss.

                  Thank you Blackapple....I will do a search on it for the threads.

                  Paintbrush, I appreciate the response.  That is exactly what I want from the root sum thing............to eliminate not to predict. Too many numbers in the root sum.....I just want to see if the numbers I have in mind are in the elimination column.......

                  Sandy

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                    Posted: June 25, 2004, 6:18 am - IP Logged

                    Here is the Mink404ski post Blackapple is talking about:

                    Hello Players,  I posted this about a year ago and it is still is a very effective way to pick you numbers. Give it a try.....

                    Mink404Ski

                     

                    This is for 3 Digit Number players in all states.  Take the winning numbers for at least the last 5 days and the sum each day.  Example numbers drawn  233=8; 345=12; 725=14; 615=12; 456=15...... Add the sums 8+12+14+12+15=61  which would average 12.2 ---- So you would play the numbers on 11-12-13 below.

                                        3 Digit Daily Numbers Matrix

                    sums   Actual Numbers to Play

                    27    999

                    26    899

                    25   799-889

                    24   699-789-888

                    23  599-689-788-779

                    22  499-589-679-688-778

                    21   399-489-579-588-669-678-777

                    20  299-389-479-488-569-578-668-677

                    19  199-289-379-388-469-478-559-568-577-667

                    18  099-189-279-288-369-378-459-468-477-558-567-666

                    17  089-179-188-269-278-359-368-377-449-458-467-557-566

                    16  079-088-169-178-259-268-277-349-358-367-448-457-466-556

                    15  069-078-159-168-177-249-258-267-339-348-357-366-447-456-555

                    14  059-068-077-149-158-167-239-248-257-266-338-347-356-446-455

                    13  049-058-067-139-148-157-166-229-238-247-256-337-346-355-445

                    12  039-048-057-066-129-138-147-156-228-237-246-255-336-345-444

                    11  029-038-047-056-119-128-137-146-155-227-236-245-335-344

                    10  019-028-037-046-055-118-127-136-145-226-235-244-334

                     9    009-018-027-036-045-117-126-135-144-225-234-333

                     8    008-017-026-035-044-116-125-134-224-233

                     7    007-016-025-034-115-124-133-223

                     6    006-015-024-033-114-123-222

                     5    005-014-023-113-122

                     4    004-013-022-112

                     3    003-012-111

                     2    002-011

                     1    001

                     0    000

                    Find the average **sum** for your 3 Digit game.  Then just find that number under the  sums heading.  If your correct one of the combinations across from it will be the winning number.

                    Example:  The average sum of your game is (13).  Then the best numbers to play are : 049-058-067-139-148-157-166-229-238-247-256-337-346-355

                    and 445.  You can save a few bucks by not playing the DOUBLES and TRIPLES if they aren't drawn very often in your game.    ENJOY!!!

                    Here is one from wsls:

                    Thanks for the sum system

                    I have seen a system relating to sums 12, 13, 14, 15

                    Take your last 3 months Pick 3 Drawings. (Example: December, November and October)

                    Look for a sum that has not hit or hit the least in the past 3 months and playonly the non-doubles boxed for the entire month of January.

                    Good Luck!!

                    wsls

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                    These are for sums not root sums but I am going to try and do something with it................

                     

                    Sandy

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                      I tried the sum average for California and it didn't work.  I tried the average of the last 5 for each draw for the past week and then the average of the last 10 for the past week.  The results were not even close, except for one that was 1 percentage point off.  I don't want to discourage someone from testing it in other states, but it doesn't work in California. 

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                        Posted: June 25, 2004, 9:31 pm - IP Logged

                        Sandy

                        Everything I told you. Didn't you learn any of that?

                        Which state do you play?