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THE BUG

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Aug 21, 2004, 9:33 am

how many predictors out there are like me -pen and paper--a computer can't pickup the clues like your own eyes can-
JAP69

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Aug 21, 2004, 9:53 am

I originally started with pencil and paper and it still is my first choice for the clues. I can find more winners by pencil and paper than by software. Its a visual intuition thing for me.
I use software for research on the different parts of the game. Saves a lot of pencil and paper work on the data upkeep. The data is all sorted for me quickly.I have gotten to where I can see it in the software data now also.

Numbers are where you find them.

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THE BUG

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:01 am

jap we've shared for along time now-know you're good on paper--interesting that you can use your software to your advantage too--maybe what it takes is a good understanding of pen and paper to really get the most advantage out of the software---is there one you would recommend for others
JAP69

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:07 am

I would also like to add that when I first started with pencil and paper I had about 3 sheets to look at. I did not track pairs, sums, roots or a lot of other stuff. I put together numbers as I seen them on the sheet with no consideration of data.
Done it in the three game as well as the four game. Found as many if not more hits with those sheets. Kept it simple.

Numbers are where you find them.

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THE BUG

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:13 am

i also have created my own sheets--sometimes i even forget how i created them--but time and time again they work-as the Bush bean commercial goes i've only shared them with one other person and she's not talking--or aleast she better not lol
i'm forever trying different approaches -some work some i drop -some i go back to later
my newest is where the 67 came from and the 33 pair too-guess it's gonna stay on the top of the list for awhile
JAP69

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Aug 21, 2004, 10:31 am

Quote: Originally posted by THE BUG on August 21, 2004

jap we've shared for along time now-know you're good on paper--interesting that you can use your software to your advantage too--maybe what it takes is a good understanding of pen and paper to really get the most advantage out of the software---is there one you would recommend for others

When I first got the software It took me some time to be able to recognize what worked for me. I use the research software to look at data and not to pick the numbers for me.
Many have seen my worksheet here. That is put together with the data from the software.
What I have learned to recognize in the software are the pairs on the most part. Reapeat pairs are hard to find in the software but I can find them on my pencil and paper sheet.
My priority in the software is that I track the drawn numbers box order. That is lowest to highest digit like 012. When I do this I can track the pairs by exact position and I can see when they reach a certain point they are playable and add the third digit or digits to the pair.Then I will go to my paper and pencil to look for the straight position.
versabet three-four is what I use

Numbers are where you find them.

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JAP69

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:23 am

Having had a cigarettee and coffee and thinking about my pencil and paper and the software is this.
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My priority in the software is that I track the drawn numbers box order. That is lowest to highest digit like 012. When I do this I can track the pairs by exact position and I can see when they reach a certain point they are playable and add the third digit or digits to the pair.Then I will go to my paper and pencil to look for the straight position.
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Tracking the pairs by exact order coincides with the way I track the drawn numbers box order by pencil and paper. This must be where my pencil and paper carried over to the software to be able to use both to an advantage.

Numbers are where you find them.

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tntea

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:43 am

Could you two share your pencil and paper method with the forum.. or with me?
I would appreciate it greatly.. TNTea
Saleo Paleo

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Aug 21, 2004, 12:11 pm

Pen & Paper and my Eyes are all I normally use,but occasionaly i use software, but very seldom, I had rather use my vision to do my work ,I use my own system and the sums and roots,Have looked at the crunch but it is not for me personally.

Saleo Paleo
JAP69

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Aug 21, 2004, 1:20 pm

tracking box order you just stack your draw
result in columns. Each column having the lowest
digit in the number.
To create new plays look for reapeats of pairs
in the column and reapeat pairs from one column
to another. Learn to mix pairs from one column
to another. When you mix pairs from one column
to another always keep position one your lowest
digit in a column.

_________________south carolina box order__
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045__127__256__358__477__579__688__789_
088__138__267__368__449__578__689__778_
015__129__239__389__456__557__699____
088__119__247__368__466__578__667___
004__123_______379__478__558__667____
029__125__267__378__467__569_______
067__137__247__379__488__599_______
068__137__236__336__489__578_______
057__146__288__368__445__557_______
019__169__238__356__448__588_______
059__169__248__346_______557_______
067__179__229__349_______558_______
013__134__248__349_______________
078__168__223__347____________
057__155__259__368_______________
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001__129_______________________
079__159_______________
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This is a view of my software with exact pair position box order 1 & 2
as you see by current skips prs 01 and 07 look ready. add the higher digits
to the third position for your box play and search for an exact position
Pair Report for SC3 COMBOS.DMG: 100 Straight Pairs / Positions 1 and 2 08-21-2004 1254 Records
Hit Hit Current Skip Most
PAIR Hits Avg Median Skips Avg Out Due
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0 0 33 38.0 26 46 35.6 128
0 1 59 21.3 15 60 19.2 100 Yes
0 2 56 22.4 18 9 21.2 87
0 3 47 26.7 24 3 25.6 102
0 4 37 33.9 26 1 32.9 102
0 5 37 33.9 29 8 32.7 96
0 6 21 59.7 32 20 57.8 186
0 7 15 83.6 57 70 77.9 240
0 8 16 78.4 48 84 72.1 336
0 9 3 418.0 1139 0 417.0 1138
1 0 0 1254 1254
1 1 34 36.9 22 126 32.2 126 Yes
1 2 71 17.7 15 5 16.6 62
1 3 40 31.4 21 81 28.3 102 Yes
1 4 37 33.9 19 6 32.7 132
1 5 30 41.8 25 17 40.2 133
1 6 28 44.8 29 77 41.0 169
1 7 27 46.4 41 59 43.3 127
1 8 6 209.0 146 319 154.8 389
1 9 2 627.0 544 166 543.0 1045
2 0 0 1254 1254
2 1 0 1254 1254
2 2 31 40.5 37 35 38.3 126 Yes
2 3 58 21.6 15 87 19.1 87 Yes
2 4 50 25.1 18 10 23.9 118
2 5 29 43.2 39 31 41.2 124
2 6 30 41.8 30 24 40.0 172
2 7 14 89.6 53 180 75.7 186 Yes
2 8 9 139.3 139 94 127.9 207
2 9 3 418.0 433 371 293.3 432
3 0 0 1254 1254
3 1 0 1254 1254
3 2 0 1254 1254
3 3 23 54.5 57 22 52.6 144
3 4 47 26.7 19 44 24.7 76
3 5 30 41.8 32 7 40.6 175
3 6 26 48.2 35 65 44.7 154
3 7 17 73.8 50 42 70.3 262
3 8 7 179.1 220 119 161.1 367
3 9 5 250.8 179 350 179.8 350
4 0 0 1254 1254
4 1 0 1254 1254
4 2 0 1254 1254
4 3 0 1254 1254
4 4 24 52.2 38 19 50.5 183
4 5 35 35.8 20 106 31.8 154 Yes
4 6 27 46.4 27 53 43.5 201
4 7 19 66.0 56 57 62.0 250
4 8 14 89.6 88 41 85.6 217
4 9 5 250.8 158 171 215.6 436
5 0 0 1254 1254
5 1 0 1254 1254
5 2 0 1254 1254
5 3 0 1254 1254
5 4 0 1254 1254
5 5 25 50.2 34 2 49.1 172
5 6 22 57.0 30 52 53.6 193
5 7 16 78.4 63 34 75.2 303
5 8 9 139.3 91 18 136.3 363
5 9 4 313.5 264 38 303.0 651
6 0 0 1254 1254
6 1 0 1254 1254
6 2 0 1254 1254
6 3 0 1254 1254
6 4 0 1254 1254
6 5 0 1254 1254
6 6 13 96.5 47 15 94.3 320
6 7 19 66.0 49 148 57.2 197 Yes
6 8 11 114.0 76 39 109.5 443
6 9 3 418.0 890 32 406.3 889
7 0 0 1254 1254
7 1 0 1254 1254
7 2 0 1254 1254
7 3 0 1254 1254
7 4 0 1254 1254
7 5 0 1254 1254
7 6 0 1254 1254
7 7 11 114.0 105 71 106.5 233
7 8 9 139.3 75 88 128.6 377
7 9 2 627.0 396 461 395.5 698
8 0 0 1254 1254
8 1 0 1254 1254
8 2 0 1254 1254
8 3 0 1254 1254
8 4 0 1254 1254
8 5 0 1254 1254
8 6 0 1254 1254
8 7 0 1254 1254
8 8 3 418.0 539 403 282.7 538
8 9 4 313.5 265 43 301.8 668
9 0 0 1254 1254
9 1 0 1254 1254
9 2 0 1254 1254
9 3 0 1254 1254
9 4 0 1254 1254
9 5 0 1254 1254
9 6 0 1254 1254
9 7 0 1254 1254
9 8 0 1254 1254
9 9 1 1254.0 1254 899 354.0 899

Numbers are where you find them.

Str8 hunter.
tntea

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Aug 21, 2004, 1:54 pm

Thank you for sharing.. looks complicated.. but I can see where it is providing you with lots of data to consider..

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