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• andyczop

  

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  How many of you, who are using The Crunch, are making a profit?

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• CASH Only

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  Nestle's Crunch?
• fast eddie

  

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  Is crunch that system that gives you a zillion combinations to play with different priority levels and still only gives you a winner less than half the time?

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• RJOh

  

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  If you are crunching numbers for a pick3 or pick4 game, you should only be working with 1,000 or 10,000 combinations.  I don't know of any lottery that have a zillion possible combinations, which lottery are you working with?

  RJOh

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• fast eddie

  

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  Ok, I may have over stated it a bit, it gives you 999 combinations for pick three and 9,999 for pick four and still you only get a winner half the time. RJoh are you using this sytem?

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• RJOh

  

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  No Eddie, I don't play the pick3 or pick4 games.  In the pick5 and jackpot games that I do play, I limit my picks by picking numbers and combinations with in parameters such as ranges , sums , gaps, previous matches, matches with in the group and etc.  Since I end up with only the amount and kinds of combinations I want, there is no need to eliminate any of them.

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   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• LANTERN

  

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  Looks like maybe up to now only Paymenow was and maybe still is making a profit with it, as for me, "NO", but I am still working on it and with it, I keep on trying new ways of using it, having some knowledge of how the game works helps, but my knowledge of the pick 3 is still limited.

  The Crunch can't give you winning numbers by itself, you must have a winning system that you use with it, in other words, you must make it give you the winning number by selecting the proper filters in the proper way(s), there are many possible ways of using the Crunch, not all of them will give you the winning number, not often enough anyway.

  The Crunch is not a "MAGIC" program and can't do anything by itself.

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• reikihealer

  

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  Just a note about some of the results I have seen using Wild Wheel & Crunch together for singles. In Georgia, it produces several winners each week, consistently. I have not seen or tested a week yet that did not have at least one straight winning number, sometimes 2 and I have seen 3 straight winners in one week. I previously posted that my input data for the Wild Wheel is the last 6 draws starting with Sunday evening's draw. I input those results into the Crunch and add the last 167 draws. I use the results for the coming week, midday & evening, Monday thru the next Sunday night. The winners usually come from priority two and three and sometimes priority one. Even though I have tried to narrow the playing field using roots & sums, I think it still produces a LOT of numbers.
  
  I think it is best used to compare with other workouts or predictions that you might see posted on this board. I have started testing Wild Wheel and Crunch using the 333 draws method for doubles. I need to test a lot more but so far I have seen winners, including straight and it produces far fewer numbers to work with. I thank the users of those systems here that sent me pm's and gave me a couple of tips. It helped narrow that playing field. I have only actually played twice. The first time I spent $7.00 and won $80.00. Of course I got brave and spent $48.00 and lost. Decided that I needed to learn more and continue to try to narrow that field. Another note about the Crunch2. I am able to use it but have not had any better results than using the other two systems. I was overwhelmed by the number of filters and not knowing exactly how to use them. All in all, I would also like to add that I have had fun working with the systems and seeing the winners come from the results. As long as that remains fun, entertaining and harmless I will keep trying. If I ever discover any great methods using those systems, I will certainly share tham. Sharing is the only way that I have ever learned and it is appreciated. Forgive me if this has been too long and boring. Just my ideas.
• LANTERN

  

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  There are 120 single boxed combinations and 90 double boxed combinations, when you input the numbers from the WildWheel in to the Crunch you are already putting many or most of those combos in to it and the last 167 draws of your pick 3 game should also have most or all of those 120 single boxed combinations, so of course between the very many combos from the WildWheel and those from the last 167 draws the winning number will have to be there boxed or straight if you are lucky 1 or more times, if the WildWheel did not give you the boxed or straight combo then the last 167 draws will, so the combo can appear from 1 to 3 times boxed or boxed and straight, but how do you know which of those 200+ combos is the winning one? Are you going to play all 200+ combos for every draw?

  To get the winning number boxed you don't need the WildWheel and or the last 167 draws, you just need the 120 single boxed combos, but again if you want to make a profit you can't play all 120 of them and then there are also 90 boxed doubles to add to the 120 boxed singles making a total of 210 boxed combos to play and where is the profit in that?

  The trick is to know which few of all those many to play and if you know which then why would you need the many or all of them?

  I sure don't know how to pick just a few out of 200+ combos, so the WildWheel + 167 last draws does not work for me, instead I am trying to use the Crunch 2 in other ways.

  Still learning and or trying to learn.

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  That many combos?