Pros and Cons or is someone wearing a Tin Foil Hat?

Published: May 14, 2021, 9:05 pm

There is a lottery news article about Ohio and Kentucky Lotteries giving incentives to get a Covid-19 vaccination. Read some pros and cons on the two shot regiment Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, but very little about the one shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

Some of the cons are "a poison with a microchip in it and is used to depopulate us for the new world order agenda according to the guidestone in Georgia."

"A lot of people have died and gotten injured from it."

"Microsoft founder Bill Gates is such a devil worshipping n pedophile monster who thinks the world is overpopulated wants to help us with his satanic patented injections !"

From the bottom up, can't find any proof or evidence of Bill Gates worshipping a devil or being a pedophile. Agree with the middle statement, but 1000 deaths out of 100 million vaccinated isn't exactly what I'd call "a lot" considering there are almost 600,000 total deaths. Not lessening the 1000 deaths but the vaccine was created to prevent millions of deaths.

The "modern ten commandments" on the Georgia guide stone are interesting and backs up Gates if really thinks the World is overpopulated.

Another question was ""Why are they pushing so hard for a vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting or giving covid-19?", but shouldn't we ask for scientific proof that the vaccine "doesn't prevent" or should we just believe the words of unknown social media posters?

Many of us got a smallpox vaccination that infected us with the mild cowpox virus to build an immunity against the deadly smallpox. And the covid-19 vaccines are designed so our immune systems create antibodies needed to protect us from getting infected or at worse a relatively mild version. Smallpox was one of most deadly diseases known to man and the only human disease to have been eradicated by vaccination.

Getting vaccinated should be personal decisions regardless what the no-name self-proclaimed Internet "experts" say.

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noise-gate - May 15, 2021, 9:51 pm

Found this interesting...
Parental refusal of vaccines is a growing a concern for the increased occurrence of vaccine preventable diseases in children. A number of studies have looked into the reasons that parents refuse, delay, or are hesitant to vaccinate their child(ren). These reasons vary widely between parents, but they can be encompassed in 4 overarching categories. The 4 categories are religious reasons, personal beliefs or philosophical reasons, safety concerns, and a desire for more information from healthcare providers. Parental concerns about vaccines in each category lead to a wide spectrum of decisions varying from parents completely refusing all vaccinations to only delaying vaccinations so that they are more spread out. A large subset of parents admits to having concerns and questions about childhood vaccinations. For this reason, it can be helpful for pharmacists and other healthcare providers to understand the cited reasons for hesitancy so they are better prepared to educate their patients' families. Education is a key player in equipping parents with the necessary information so that they can make responsible immunization decisions for their children.

PMC.
US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health

Stack47 - May 16, 2021, 12:26 am

The last number I saw was around 270 million vaccinated Americans. Just a guess, but about 71 million voters won't get vaccinated.

Stack47 - May 17, 2021, 3:34 pm

It's one thing to not get vaccinated, but I just don't see the point of trying to convince people not to based on something they read on the Internet. Most people just take the advice of their family doctor.

Maybe posting on multi-media websites is intended to convince people to do something or the other. It's like posting 18 reasons people shouldn't get vaccinated when there are 586,000 + reasons to get vaccinated.

rcbbuckeye - May 18, 2021, 12:08 pm

Just looked it up....42,060 people died from auto accidents in 2020.
Should everybody stop driving because it can be dangerous?

Stack47 - May 19, 2021, 5:36 pm

I believe the figure you found is from the National Safety Council, but Car and Driver Magazine put the number at 16,650 deaths and 1.42 per million hours driven. Saw 37,000 on another source.

But using the NSC number, there still is a huge difference between 587,000 and 42,000 deaths and the root causes and likelihood must be examined before making the decision your asking for. The percentage of fatalities to accidents is 0.7%. According to the NSC, laws banning the use of cell phones while driving will decrease the number of accidents and fatalities. That and all the NSC driving recommendations are basically common sense.

If there were almost 600,000 vehicle fatalities each year, I'm pretty sure states and cities would closely examine who should be allowed to drive. Driving in and near cities with larger populations, we'll see more drivers breaking existing traffic laws but less fatalities on city streets. Rural areas probably have more fatalities per accident just because of higher speed limits.

Last year witness a head-on collusion about a mile from my home. Someone driving North, apparently in a hurry crossed the double yellow line to pass a car just as another car was pulling out a driveway turning South.

There is a law against crossing a double yellow line, regardless of the outcome, but even knowing that or anything else could happen won't stop me from driving.

I'm neither encouraging nor discouraging anyone from getting vaccinated, just remarking on a comment in a LP news article. Maybe you can explain how driving a car knowing fatality statistics relates to catching Covid-19 and/or getting vaccinated?

rcbbuckeye - May 20, 2021, 4:45 pm

I didn't make my point very well. Point being people aren't afraid of driving despite the hazards (people doing what you described). I find it crazy that with almost 600,000 deaths people still think the vaccine is dangerous, has microchips, etc. I have friends that won't get vaccinated.
I mentioned on another blog or post that a person can find just about anything on the internet that fits their beliefs if they look hard enough. But they can't sift through the nonsense. I think that's a big reason why the country is in the state it's in.

Stack47 - May 21, 2021, 12:29 am

"I think that's a big reason why the country is in the state it's in."

Watched the last quarter of the Laker Warrior game Wednesday and saw LeBron get smacked in the face. During the NBA playoffs, it's called a "hard foul", shoot your free throws, and play on. Because the refs decided to review the play, today social media was saying James was faking an injury so the refs would change it to a "fragrant" foul. It had no effect on the outcome, but lots of people had to say something on social media.

The point is it doesn't matter what actually happened because someone will spin it to make it look like something else. Like when someone says they put tiny micro chips into the vaccine, bet the farm many people will believe them.

What is the point of anyone with zero medical credibility encouraging or discouraging getting vaccinated on social media other than trying to get five minutes of fame?

Read with all three of the vaccines there is risk to people taking blood thinners, but after checking the facts and asking my doctor, the only risk is to bleeding and bruising at the injection site. That's what my doctor said about my risk but someone will probably say I'm encouraging people on blood thinners to get vaccinated.

Pros and Cons or is someone wearing a Tin Foil Hat?

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