Doomsday fears spark lawsuit over collider

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By Alan Boyle
Science editor
MSNBC
updated 11:23 a.m. ET, Fri., March. 28, 2008
The builders of the world's biggest particle collider are being sued in federal court over fears that the experiment might create globe-gobbling black holes or never-before-seen strains of matter that would destroy the planet.

Representatives at Fermilab in Illinois and at Europe's CERN laboratory, two of the defendants in the case, say there's no chance that thelarge Hadron collider would cause such cosmic catastrophes. Nevertheless, they're bracing to defend themselves in the courtroom as well as the court of public opinion.

The Large Hadron Collider, or LHC, is due for startup later this year at CERN's headquarters on the French-Swiss border. It's expected to tackle some of thedeepest questions in science: Is the  foundation of mondern physics right or wrong? What existed during the very first moment of the universe's existence? Why do  some particles have the mass while others don't? What is the nature of dark matter? Are there extra dimensions of space out there that we haven't yet detected?

Some folks outside the scientific mainstream have asked darker questions as well: Could the collider create mini-black holes that last long enough and get big enough to turn into a matter-sucking maelstrom? Could exotic particles known as magnetic monopoles throw atomic nuclei out of whack? Could quarks recombine into "strangelets" that would turn the whole Earth into one big lump of exotic matter?

Former nuclear safety officer Walter Wagner has been raising such questions for years - first about an earlier-generation "big bang machine" known as the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider, and more recently about the LHC.

Last Friday, Wagner and another critic of the LHC's safety measures, Luis Sancho, filed a lawsuit in Hawaii's U.S. District Court. The suit calls on the U.S. Department of Energy, Fermilab, the National Science Foundation and CERN to ease up on their LHC preparations for several months while the collider's safety was reassessed.

"We're going to need a minimum of four months to review whatever they're putting out," Wagner told me on Monday. The suit seeks a temporary restraining order that would put the LHC on hold, pending the release and review of an updated CERN safety assessment. It also calls on the U.S. government to do a full environmental review addressing the LHC project, including the debate over the doomsday scenario.

On Monday, District Judge Helen Gillmor assigned the case to a magistrate judge, Kevin S.C. Chang, for an initial conference on June 16. Wagner said he planned to ask for a more immediate hearing on the request for a restraining order - that is, once he has served the federal government with the court papers.

The case is currently being handled by the U.S. attorney's office in Hawaii, where Wagner and Sancho both live,`but that may not necessarily be where the legal proceedings end up. The Justice Department's Environmental and Natural Resources Division, based in Washington, is also being brought in on the case, assistant U.S. attorney Derrick Watson told me in an e-mail Wednesday.

In Washington, Justice Department spokesman Andrew Ames noted that the court papers had not yet been received. "We don't have any comment," he told me Thursday. "We'll comment in court when it's appropriate."

Debating doomsday
The defense attorneys would likely dwell on the regulatory and procedural questions rather than the worries over a cosmic catastrophe. Those worries have been around for years, and most physicists have scoffed at them for almost as long. The doomsday scenarios raised by Sancho and Wagner include:

  • Runaway black holes: Some physicists say the LHC could create microscopic black holes that would hang around for just a tiny fraction of a second and then decay. Sancho and Wagner worry that millions of black holes might somehow persist and coalesce into a compact gravitational mass that would draw in other matter and grow bigger. That's pure science fiction, said Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist at the City College of New York. "These black holes don't live very long, and they have microscopic energy, and so they are harmless," he told me.

  • Strangelets: Smashing protons together at high enough energies could create new combinations of quarks, the particles that protons are made of. Sancho and Wagner worry that a nasty combination known as a stable, negatively charged strangelet could theoretically turn everything it touches into strangelets as well. Kaku compared this to the ancient myth of the Midas touch. "We see no evidence of this bizarre theory," he said. "Once in a while, we trot it out to scare the pants off people. But it's not serious."

  • Magnetic monopoles: One theory suggests that high-energy particle collisions might give rise to massive particles that have only one magnetic pole - only north, or only south, but not the north-south magnetism that dominates nature. Sancho and Wagner worry that such particles could be created in the LHC and start a runaway reaction that converts atoms into other forms of matter. But physicists have seen no evidence of such reactions, which should have occurred already as the result of more energetic cosmic-ray collisions in Earth's upper atmosphere.

The cosmic-ray argument has been applied to the black-hole and strangelet scenarios as well. If such dangerous things can be created, why haven't they already eaten up Earth, along with other planets, stars or whole galaxies in the billions of years since the universe arose? To answer that question, Sancho and Wagner pose a counterargument: Perhaps cosmic-ray collisions really are creating tiny black holes or strangelets, but those little bits of doomsday zip by too fast to cause any trouble. In the LHC, they say, the bad stuff could hang around long enough to be captured by Earth's gravity and set off a catastrophe.

In response, particle physicists are developing counter-counterarguments -  based on their theoretical work as well as data from astronomical observations and experiments at the Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider. For instance, the physicists would say that enough of the doomsday particles still should have been captured by neutron stars or cosmic gas clouds to have an impact. No such impact has ever been seen. Therefore, no doomsday.

CERN spokesman James Gillies told me that a 2003 assessment of the doomsday scenarios was being updated with the new information. Release of that updated report - the one that Sancho and Wagner apparently have been waiting for - is "imminent," Gillies told me.

Questions about the doomsday scenarios may well come up at CERN on April 6, during a public open house at the LHC. Some researchers have gotten the word to be prepared to talk about microscopic black holes and strangelets if asked.

Reality check
Saying something is absolutely impossible doesn't always come easy. Some scientists find it difficult to state categorically that such-and-such a theoretical catastrophe has no chance of happening, and Fermilab spokeswoman Judy Jackson told me that the doomsayers have "cynically distorted" that natural reluctance to rule out even the most outlandish theoretical possibilities.

The doomsaying can continue as long as scientists hold out even a tiny sliver of uncertainty. Jackson cited the example of Paul Dixon, a psychology professor at the University of Hawaii at Hilo who has been saying for more than a decade that experiments at Fermilab's Tevatron accelerator are in danger of touching off an artificial supernova. Dixon is still going strong: He submitted an affidavit in support of the LHC lawsuit filed by Sancho and Wagner.

The current lawsuit could well be decided not by scientific arguments but rather by narrower regulatory issues. On that point, Jackson said that Fermilab has followed U.S. environmental regulations, just as CERN has followed European regulations. "Of course there are plenty of environmental laws and regulations, and they have all been followed to the letter," she said.

However, Jackson said CERN shouldn't be held to U.S. requirements when it comes to operating the LHC - even if the collider happens to be using magnets built by Fermilab. "Just because we built them doesn't mean we have any say over French environmental regulations," she said.

For his part, Wagner said he hoped Fermilab and the other defendants in the lawsuit would take another look at the doomsday scenarios - and speculated that a restraining order might not even be necessary. He noted that the startup schedule for the LHC has been repeatedly delayed, which would give more time for further safety assessments. (CERN's schedule currently calls for first collisions by the end of August, and the word is that the collider may not reach its full power of 14 trillion electron-volts until next year.)

Wagner suggested that cosmic-ray observations by the Pierre Auger Observatory and the yet-to-be-launched Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope, or GLAST, could shed new light on the debate. "The way I look at it, this should be a basis to look for more funding to find a solution to the problems we raised," he told me.

An extended version of this report appears as a Cosmic Log posting on msnbc.com.

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Comments

Avatar JAP69 -
#1
I read that article a few days ago.
Mess with the unknown they could be asking for it.
Like that movie I seen where they were drilling for magma and they got more than they were looking for.
Avatar jarasan -
#2
As I pointed out several weeks ago in my LP blog, that is why they call them the God particle(s).
http://blogs.lotterypost.com/jarasan/2008/03/the-god-particle.htm
Dealing beyond and with the unknown boundaries of physics, I wonder if the doomsday cult living in the mud berm in Russia are worried about this, they predict the end will be sometime between mid April and late May so it must be something else. At school in the late eighties, we were just beginning to accept the idea of black holes and controlled fusion (TocomacK). I think miniature blackholes are quite possible and exist. Two of my friends sons are PH'd physicists, one theoretical the other astro., I have had the opportunity to read one of their dissertations, the theoretical one, needless to say, there is a degree of uncertainty, and better safe than sorry, God don't play around.
Avatar pumpi76 -
#3
This is why we need a planet like Mars to do this experiments...I read similar stories before...Sorry but Earth is the most precious planet AND THE ONLY PLANET in the universe, we can't afford to destroy it....The only moment if it was me, that i will use such a collider is if i was 1,000 years away from Earth destruction or from Earth getting gobbled by the Sun...That's the only time i will use such a collider, after all what scientist don't see is that physics have done incredible advancement in the last 300 years, i mean accelaratted growth, come on we have at least 1 million years to start running again, so i don't know what's the hurry...Such experiments should cease....And if funny because i like particles accelarators and i am in favor of them....But you know everytime i see the picture of a huge particular accelarator i think of a gigantic stock market or lottery stock market system...But again if this people say they are smarts as they say they are, they will know this things....
Avatar pumpi76 -
#4
A black hole is nothing to be playing with...Remember black holes only get BIGGER...I don't care if is harmless...
Avatar pumpi76 -
#5
what they need to do is find ways to terraform Mars...What am i saying? I am saying Physics has plenty of time, they are way too ahead of their time...What they need to do is create more "Space/Cosmos/Universe" movies, because space movies are unheard of....
Avatar pumpi76 -
#6
i think people should be more affraid of a black hole than they should be afraid of a lose lion, getting shot, an atomic bomb...A black hole destroys MASSES of planets, i'll like to know what bullet or misile can do that....Is for their own good..
Avatar pumpi76 -
#7
one thing is wanting to find the fountain of Youth, another is wanting to create a black hole in your backyard...
Avatar pumpi76 -
#8
I'll like to know where is green PEACE when you need them...Again stuff they should really be paying attention, they don't...
Avatar time*treat -
#9
Since they won't be powering this thing up until next year, at earliest, better go ahead and keep sending in those credit card payments... :-)
Avatar pumpi76 -
#10
I'll like to know where are the Natzies...
Avatar pumpi76 -
#11
What they should be doing is instead of sponsoring such research they should take the money and sponsor research into artificial intelligence and computers and supercomputers and ways they can make them smarter and android research and unmanned spacecraft this way androids will be able to go to mars or through a worm hole and gather intelligence (by the way if you didn't know a worm hole is different from a black hole), or transport our DNA or i don't know how...That's where they should be pouring their money, for acelarators have plenty of time, PLENTY OF TIME, they almost have an enternity....And instead of spending BILLION on an accelarator, they should create a GLOBAL STOCK EXCHANGE OR GLOBAL LOTTERY STOCK EXCHANGE OR A SYSTEM THAT WILL HAVE WINNERS AND LOSERS, and they should buy themselves plenty of supercomputers and test hypothesis and think craps up...For those smart scientist...A thought/mind is a terrible thing to waste...They should be thinking hypothesis up more and more and sort of play with the supercomputer, i mean if they REALLY are SCIENCE NERDS/SCIENTIST...
Avatar Rick G -
#12
Fermilab employees are being let go and are having to take unpaid furloughs in order to keep their jobs because the government can't find the money for homegrown physics research. Instead the budget is going towards homegrown terrorist prevention.

Should we be spending our money on microscopes or spears?
Avatar pumpi76 -
#13
With the money spend on particle accelarators they should do 2 things: First, they need to invent some kind of bomb that will make mountains succumb, it will be a great step for humanity too, again that’s where the money of "particles accelarators" should go....I see people demolish/succumb buildings yet no one can succumb mountains, such a thing will be so great, it will mean progress...
And something else that is very important is as important as discovering dark matter...On all planet that you discover (think of you as in the movie supernova) you will HAVE TO LEARN how to MANIPULATE the weather...This is what the particule accelarator ought to do...Instead of spending billions on particules accelarators, they should spend billions in ways to try and manipulate the weather...MANIPULATING THE WEATHER IS AS GOOD AS DISCOVERING SOME UNKNOWN PARTICLE...AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH WEATHER ON ANY PLANET THAT YOU TRAVEL TO...AGAIN I JUST SCORED AGAINST YOU AND BIG TIME...SO DO YOU SEE THAT AFRICA IS LIKE A LESSON FROM GOD, IS AS HE WAS TELLING YOU, IF YOU WANT TO CONQUER OTHER PLANETS AND CROSS THE STARS YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO CONQUER WHAT’S ON YOU BACKYARD...IMAGINE IF AFRICA WASN’T THE WAY IT IS, AND YOU WENT TO ANOTHER PLANET AND WAS FACE WITH SUCH SITUATION, HOW WILL YOU HAVE SETTLED ON ANY PLANET? YOU COULDN’T BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE...
The weather is as vital part to an astronaut and astronaut crusader as it is politics to a country...The weather is also a vital part of terraforming...
Again you should not try and play with the word "black hole" such a word shouldn't even be mention as a joke...Black hole is like the word "God" it should be respected...

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