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My library (opened last year) is built for the handicapped.

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    Posted: July 28, 2005, 9:40 am - IP Logged

    It's my understanding that damages, pain and suffering, are Not Taxable which explains the core motivation of much "activism." 

    Also keeps lawyers fat and happy because it's easier to throw money than fight it through.

    Good luck to everyone!

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      Posted: July 28, 2005, 9:46 am - IP Logged

      My library (opened last year) is built for the handicapped.

      Any good reading material in there?

      Jack


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        Posted: July 28, 2005, 9:47 am - IP Logged

        I go to the liberry to get on the internet.

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          Posted: July 28, 2005, 9:48 am - IP Logged

          Go to any where outside of the U.S. and the "handicap" are on their own. Wonder how they manage to exist on their own?

          I have a "handicap" sticker, and I use the same thought I had when I was 20 - if I can't get in, then I go some where else.

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            Posted: July 28, 2005, 10:28 am - IP Logged

            Go to any where outside of the U.S. and the "handicap" are on their own. Wonder how they manage to exist on their own?

            I have a "handicap" sticker, and I use the same thought I had when I was 20 - if I can't get in, then I go some where else.

            I tips my hat to you.  I've sometimes thought that approach would be the one I'd take if I'd been afflicted  in that way.  I think (hope) I'd figure if those people wanted my business they'd make their businesses accessible.  A lot would, and those who didn't just wouldn't get the money I had to spend.

            Best to you,

            Jack

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              I agree with you Jack about the conditional problems this issue has caused over the years. Access to public lands and such. Here in MD we have many buildings that were built 200 plus years ago around the water front many of which have steps to climb. many of which were built off the ground floor entrants because of tidal waves, high water and such many of these businesses have not had to comply with handicapped accesses because their building was not bound by any such rules when they were built. ( noted as historical buildings areas and such) So they don't have to accommodate the handicapped. An historical area to boot the activists surveyed the area logged a complaint and not one building above the ground level had to comply with any rules as long as they didn't rehab the property (add additional floors dining rooms and drinking areas) that were not part of the original landscape of the interior of the property.
              When a person buys a business signs a contract to comply with certain rules that person knows what they need or not do to comply with rules that are in place for everybody regardless of their handicaps.
              Noteworthy of the story people selling tickets for the Virginia state lottery.  A retailer-contract form on the Virginia Lottery Web site says all vendors must comply with the American and state disabilities acts.
              These people are operating in violation of the law. If it's ok for them to operate that way then it's ok for everybody that wants to break the law to do it too.
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                Posted: July 28, 2005, 11:11 am - IP Logged

                Go to any where outside of the U.S. and the "handicap" are on their own. Wonder how they manage to exist on their own?

                I have a "handicap" sticker, and I use the same thought I had when I was 20 - if I can't get in, then I go some where else.

                Chewie i have a pasport but have never been out of the country to know how much of your statement is correct or not. I'm not an activist but i have noted the many places within walking distance riding distance from my house that i couldn't get into because there was no way i could get in. I didn't panic and call the handi police i found another way also.

                An example of non compliance is the last place i worked didn't have any handicapped assess abilities to or from or inside the building. In fact they didn't even have a handi parking place. They knew i was facing an operation where i might be forced to use a wheel chair for a while. Rather than build a simple ramp on one of the many exterior entrance doors they chose to find a way to terminate my employment. Now anybody else might have called the EEOC or an attorney and filed several laws suits. I didn't do that crazy maybe but i was just one case of this happening i know there are probably several thousand places that on a daily basis let people go because they don't want to comply with state, federal, rules and laws.

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                  Posted: July 28, 2005, 11:44 am - IP Logged

                  When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                  If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                   

                   

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                    Posted: July 28, 2005, 12:03 pm - IP Logged

                    When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                    If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                     

                     

                    Nice bumper-sticker rhetoric.  Precisely the sort of inflamatory, simplistic, guilt-driven, sarcastic thinking that leads us further into the morass.  Bumper stickers try to pass themselves off as glib, clever, but they boil down to an excuse for people not thinking past the ends of their noses.

                    It's not many years since guys with their legs blown off defending this country in time of war were pushing themselves around the streets of every city of this nation, selling pencils, getting by any way they could.  The ones who got their conditions in other ways didn't have any safety net, and they were selling pencils, too.

                    I believe this society did right by taking measures to help those people, which it did.

                    It's all a matter of degree. 

                    But, I'd also mention in passing, that most of those people pushing themselves around on platforms with castors responded with anger when anyone tried to open doors for them.  Tried to give them a dollar bill instead of a nickle for a pencil.  They weren't beggars, weren't looking for sympathy, weren't looking for anyone to do anything special for them.

                    The concept of pride in personal responsibility, in a man goring his own oxen, wasn't yet an anathema.

                    Jack

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                      Posted: July 28, 2005, 12:12 pm - IP Logged

                      When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                      If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                       

                       

                      That's an ignorant statement.  God help you if you become handicapped. 

                       

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                        Posted: July 28, 2005, 12:49 pm - IP Logged

                        When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                        If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                         

                         

                        what an ignorant statement.  do you think they prefer being handicapped?

                        are you positive you'll never become handicapped.??

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                          Posted: July 28, 2005, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

                          When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                          If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                           

                           

                          what an ignorant statement.  do you think they prefer being handicapped?

                          are you positive you'll never become handicapped.??

                          Evidently I read the post incorrectly.  I saw it as sarcasm, whereas it was more transparent as pure ignorance by you and Todd. 

                          Sorry.

                          Jack 

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                            Posted: July 28, 2005, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

                            When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                            If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                             

                             

                            With a statement such as that, one can only assume you are either very young or have been blessed with a family that have never had handicap related issues.

                            Sad part is, I can probably recall a time my mentality was perhaps no more mature then what you are displaying with that comment. Believe me, until you spent time wheeling a family member around in a wheel chair, literally picking up a person who weighed more then twice myself from a wheel chair and putting them into the back seat of a SUV. And perhaps more so, wiping away the tears of a dear family member who cried each time because they could no longer do for themselves. This you do not for obligation of family, but for true sincerety of those you love. Maybe, just maybe, like myself, you will one day open your eyes to the world around you and realize that perhaps the person who is truly handicap...is none other then yourself.

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                              Posted: July 28, 2005, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

                              When are handicapped people just going to learn that they're not welcome anymore....

                              If God wanted them around he wouldn't have handicapped them, right?

                               

                               

                              Well i just don't know I've seen futuristic movies where if you have anything wrong with you (are not perfect in every way physically and mentally they will put you to death.) By this token if you fell of a ladder and broke both legs signora your doomed to be put to death. Or you fall asleep and have a full blown stroke and become paralyzed wake up and find yoursel being pushed to the death chamber.
                              Now tell me you don't have a problem with your statement.
                              Remember this we are not in control of our own bodys we have no clue as to what might affect us, you can go to sleep on night and wake up the next day with any one of a number of illnesses that will alter your life forever.
                              this is not a perfect society will never be a perfect society people on the planet get injured ever second of the day. Just as millions are born, millions must die. I agree that each and everyone of us should have every means at our disposal to insure that we receive the best treatment and care that can be given and all of us whom are healthy should be thank full that we are not severely handicapped.

                              However this thread is not about people being handicapped it's about a retailers not being compliant with lottery rules and regs. concerning access to and from the businesses.