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Posted: August 3, 2005, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

how can a person tell which position line is the right one

when in reno playing the hotels free competition for 250 i had picked a machine i felt would win, however the hostess directed me to another and it was the winner, so i just take whatever life offers in that regard

 

First let me say Todd, you are right. Someone working at the place should not be able to see the list of the next QPS up for grabs. Actualy it really doesn't matter because the person viewing the numbers really doesn't know which one will come out, yet it seems unnerving to me. I can understand the uneasyness.

To answer Sagan's response....No one knows which line is the right one. Kudos to that, but I do strongly believe that the position that was dealt to you should be kept regardless of chivalry. Driving a taxi, a same situation has happened to me often. I'll let someone go ahead of me on the taxi line, only to find out they got a trip to Miami for $125.00 after gas. And I got a short ride for $9.00.

Anytime an agent accidently prints a ticket, that I didn't request,  I buy it. 

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    If I ever win a lottery, no one playing before or after me in the same line will feel cheated because I pick my own numbers.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: August 4, 2005, 7:16 pm - IP Logged

      pac  i am sure what you say is right for you however in my life the opposite has been dominant

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        Posted: August 4, 2005, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

        it might be fate too....


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          Posted: August 5, 2005, 9:42 am - IP Logged

          I Agree!

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            Everyone who says that the numbers constantly refresh are not necessarily correct.  You are all assuming that the RNG in the lottery machine is programmed a certain way.  The fact is that all lottery machines are NOT programmed the same, so the way you're making a blanket statement is not necessarily true.

            You're also making the assumption (like an episode of Star Trek) that if the other person went first then somehow the time continuum would be disturbed, and the clerk would not have generated the numbers at the precise millisecond that he did for the lady.

            You know what?  I think the guy was right, and he would have won if he went first.

            I agree with Todd.  It all depends on how the lottery machine is programmed.  Taking that into consideration, the gentleman "could" have won if he wasnt such a "nice guy."  I wonder if he had heard the song "Nice Guys Finish Last" by the band Greenday.

            Probably has no significance at all except to drive the final nail in the coffin of the already-ailing code of gentlemanly conduct.  Germain Greer, Bella Abzug and the Womens Lib movement of the last quarter-century created an environment where gentlemanly conduct was punishable by scorn and guilt.

            About the only conduct left forbidden to a gentleman is that they still can't draw to an inside straight.

            Jack

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              If you do not understand how the lottery machines operate than naturally you would think , if you let someone in front of you and they win big, it would have been you had you not done that, HOWEVER as several others have explained , the machines are all connected so there is only one chance in a hundred million that if you did not let someone in front of you that you would have pulled up the same numbers! So the "timing" of the machine is kind of like it's own lottery in itself! Chances are (1 in 100,000,000) he wouldn’t have gotten the same ticket.

              Another issue her is sharing. If I won all that loot and some man was kind enough to let me go ahead of him, the first thing I would do ( once I could ) is give him a big bunch of cash, and the person who works for minimum wage who sold me the ticket would be equally blessed. When I get a lottery ticket I always ask the person's name who is selling it to me if it is not on their shirt just in case!

              I do not think it is good to assume any ill thoughts or ulterior motives of the man who said "Hey, it could have been me!" That is a very normal reaction anyone would have in the same situation, even if it is not actually so, if you didn't understand how the machines work , (and most people do not) his was just a normal assumption.

              LOVEMEDO

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                Posted: August 11, 2005, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

                LOVEMEDO,

                I don't think you understand the difference between the lottery machines being connected in order to upload ticket selections vs. some kind of shared "number pool".

                I will try to make this as non-technical as possible:

                Most, if not all, lottery machines create their own Quick Picks

                There is no "central number generator" for all machines, and there is no "central pool of Quick Pick numbers".

                Each machine has its own independent Random Number Generator (RNG) that generates the Quick Picks.

                AFTER the Quick Pick is generated, the lottery machine uploads the numbers played to the central lottery mainframe.

                Here's the way it works, step-by-step, to generate a single ticket:

                1. Lottery clerk presses button(s) to generate a Quick Pick
                2. Lottery Machine generates the random numbers to play with its RNG
                3. The random numbers are sent (uploaded) to the lottery's mainframe
                4. The mainframe returns (downloads) an "OK" that the numbers were received, and assigns a ticket number
                5. The lottery machine prints the ticket containing all the information

                If someone plays their own numbers, then you just substitute "Clerk enters numbers into lottery machine" for Step 2.

                Hopefully that will clear things up.

                 

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                  LOVEMEDO,

                  I don't think you understand the difference between the lottery machines being connected in order to upload ticket selections vs. some kind of shared "number pool".

                  I will try to make this as non-technical as possible:

                  Most, if not all, lottery machines create their own Quick Picks

                  There is no "central number generator" for all machines, and there is no "central pool of Quick Pick numbers".

                  Each machine has its own independent Random Number Generator (RNG) that generates the Quick Picks.

                  AFTER the Quick Pick is generated, the lottery machine uploads the numbers played to the central lottery mainframe.

                  Here's the way it works, step-by-step, to generate a single ticket:

                  1. Lottery clerk presses button(s) to generate a Quick Pick
                  2. Lottery Machine generates the random numbers to play with its RNG
                  3. The random numbers are sent (uploaded) to the lottery's mainframe
                  4. The mainframe returns (downloads) an "OK" that the numbers were received, and assigns a ticket number
                  5. The lottery machine prints the ticket containing all the information

                  If someone plays their own numbers, then you just substitute "Clerk enters numbers into lottery machine" for Step 2.

                  Hopefully that will clear things up.

                  Exactly correct - with one addition. I read somewhere, that each "area: machine is pre-programmed not to RNG certain combinations during each sequence of winnings. This serves to maintain the odds-winner ratio.

                  Cheers

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                    Kindness always pays. Even if you lose the Lottery because of it ( which I don't think he did) , you get your reward in Heaven!

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                      LOVEMEDO,

                      I don't think you understand the difference between the lottery machines being connected in order to upload ticket selections vs. some kind of shared "number pool".

                      I will try to make this as non-technical as possible:

                      Most, if not all, lottery machines create their own Quick Picks

                      There is no "central number generator" for all machines, and there is no "central pool of Quick Pick numbers".

                      Each machine has its own independent Random Number Generator (RNG) that generates the Quick Picks.

                      AFTER the Quick Pick is generated, the lottery machine uploads the numbers played to the central lottery mainframe.

                      Here's the way it works, step-by-step, to generate a single ticket:

                      1. Lottery clerk presses button(s) to generate a Quick Pick
                      2. Lottery Machine generates the random numbers to play with its RNG
                      3. The random numbers are sent (uploaded) to the lottery's mainframe
                      4. The mainframe returns (downloads) an "OK" that the numbers were received, and assigns a ticket number
                      5. The lottery machine prints the ticket containing all the information

                      If someone plays their own numbers, then you just substitute "Clerk enters numbers into lottery machine" for Step 2.

                      Hopefully that will clear things up.

                       

                      Todd,

                      Ok at si very clear.. thanks, I guess that explains how more than one person can win the big pot!

                      Lovemedo

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                        Kindness always pays. Even if you lose the Lottery because of it ( which I don't think he did) , you get your reward in Heaven!

                        Whether the man lost the lottery because of it, or didn't, I think you've indulged in a severe overstatement.  Kindness, or at least, courtesy, is good policy.  A person tends to be better for it inside.  But I'd  say it generally has no relationship to payment of any sort, otherwise.  If anything, it probably comes nearer being a liability paid in time and energies expended.

                        On the other hand, it's something to be weighed and considered as an option, most occasions.  When a person's done that and made the choice to be kind to someone who absolutely is undeserving of kindness, managed to tolerate a fool joyfully, and follows it by being grateful for having done so despite the cost, it's worth it.

                        Otherwise the cost is probably too high.

                        I'm not expecting any payoffs in heaven.  I'll take mine watching some scumball hitch-hiker three days since his last meal scarf up a can of Dinty Moore stew I gave him while I try to ignore his odor and do my best not to wish I hadn't picked him up.

                        But I'm not letting any female women in line in front of me at the store.

                        Jack

                         

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                          hey jack - female women?  as oppossed to male women?  Crazy

                          love to nibble those micey feet.

                           

                                                       

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                            Jack,

                            Your a stitch..rewards are real.....as promised in the Bible. I think you're going to cash in, even if you dont let the ladies first!

                            lovemedo

                            Matthew 6

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                                1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

                                2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

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                              hey jack - female women?  as oppossed to male women?  Crazy

                              Nowadays, Emily, a person just can't tell anymore.  I don't imagine I'd give up my place for male women, either, except I don't like them standing behind me where I have to stretch my neck to keep an eye on them.

                              There's a town named Trinidad, just across the NM coastline into Colorado, where they're doing a land office business in turning men into women.  Seems an awfully lot of them drift downhill and end up in Albuquerque.

                              Got nothing against them, I suppose, but I don't like having them behind me in line.

                              Jack