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Ohio Lottery planning end for Super Lotto game

Ohio LotteryOhio Lottery: Ohio Lottery planning end for Super Lotto game

It's a good bet that the Ohio Lottery's big-money jackpot game won't be around much longer.

The lottery is planning to replace Super Lotto Plus, which has existed in various Super Lotto forms since 1987, with another game designed to be different than the 12-state Mega Millions game played in Ohio.

The new game, to be called Lot 'O Play, will be available at online sales terminals starting Oct. 9, Tom Hayes, Ohio Lottery director, said Wednesday. Its minimum jackpot will be $1 million and can increase if there is no jackpot winner and depending on the amount of sales.

Sales in the state's jackpot game have been sagging. Super Lotto produced about $113 million in revenue in the fiscal year completed June 30, down from about $161 million in fiscal year 2003.

Mega Millions resulted in a $170 million jackpot July 22 that was won by a group in Ohio. Mega Millions typically officers a much larger jackpot that Super Lotto.

"It's not unusual for us to change a game or start a new one. Typically, every game has a life span, and you have what we call game fatigue. We thought it was a good time for a new game that looks and plays differently," Hayes said.

Lottery officials have been designing the bingo-style Lot 'O Play for about two years, said lottery spokeswoman Mardele Cohen.

Lottery experts say it's becoming common for states involved in big jackpot multistate games to revise their in-state jackpot games.

"The decision to go from an individual state lotto game to a multistate game is a natural evolution," said David Gale, director of the North American Association of State and Provincial Lotteries. "The way a lottery increases profits is to design games that appeal to the masses, to broaden the player base."

Maryland is revising its Classic Lotto game, to focus less on big jackpots, said Buddy Roogow, the Maryland Lottery director. Rather than compete with Mega Million, the idea is to offer a state game that offers more prizes, he said.

Gail Howard, an author in Las Vegas of several books about strategies for playing lotteries, said she questions the strategy of changing Ohio's lotto game.

"If you take away a favorite game, the players may not want to play the high-odds Mega Millions, and going to a bingo-type game is not a good idea," Howard said.

Ohio's Super Lotto game, like Mega Millions, requires players to select numbers out of a field. Lot 'O Play offers for a $2 play a field of 25 numbers within five horizontal and vertical rows.

The minimum wager will change from Super Lotto's $1, but the $2 play will buy 12 chances at a jackpot combination -- all numbers in any row across, down or diagonally. A player will be able to select numbers for the top row.

The odds for a jackpot hit will improve to about 1 in 6.3 million, from Super Lotto's 1 in 13.9 million. The new game offers other prizes of $1,000, $10 and $2 and also offers an instant win feature worth $10.

The Kicker option in Super Lotto, worth $100,000, will transfer to Mega Millions.

Shirleen Moore, 45, and Naimah O'Neal, 42, were among the lottery players Wednesday afternoon at Tower Lottery, a lottery and snacks store inside Cleveland's Terminal Tower. Both were surprised about the planned end of Super Lotto.

"It really won't make a difference, because I never won," Moore said. "I play Super Lotto and I play Mega Millions. I'll just play whatever they got."

O'Neal said: "I don't play all that often, so if they change it, it doesn't really matter to me. If it's more chances to win, that's a good thing."

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This was one of the concepts Ohio was surveying players about. I still would have liked to seen the Michigan/Ohio game take off. BTW Ohio just started to pay $1 for 3/6.

The Kicker should be retired. But this will mean another in-state MM quirk.

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    They should've just added this game to the current line-up as opposed to simply replacing Super Lotto. Sounds like an interesting twist on the Match 6 concept (which is patented by Scientific Games, therefore preventing GTech states from using it). Expect a lot of numbers in this game though, like a 5/55 or something like that.

    I'm also glad they're moving the Kicker to Mega Millions instead of letting it go down with it's ship. Losing 1 game is bad enough, but replacing 2 games with one really boils my gullet. Variety is the spice of life, and heaven knows we don't get enough variety out of that computer at 7-11.

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      Posted: August 18, 2005, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

      js:

      The survey said the bingo-style game would have 100 numbers.

      It will be interesting how players will react to a reduction in the starting jackpot, with a doubling of ticket price.

      Notice the $10 instant win prize. Will it be the same kind of gimmick as in PA Unlucky for Life?

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        Posted: August 18, 2005, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

        For similarities, take a look at KY's Tic Tac Cash. Same concept, different-sized playing field.

        But the article indicated that players would be able to select numbers in the top row alone - the other four rows would be quick picks only.

        There would have to be some filtering of the possibilities - after all, there are 552,446,474,061,128,648,601,600,000 different bingo cards possible. Even if the same 24 numbers were to be utilized as the only options on a bingo card and placed in their proper columns at random, there are 4,976,640,000 possibilities.

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          Sounds like the epitome of gimmicky games. But I'll definately go for it. And I wasn't aware of any survey from the OH Lottery beyond the one for the joint game with Michigan. I wonder what the odds for the $10 instant win costs though? If it's 1 in 20, the actual ticket would contribute only $1 to the prize pool. And through some calculation and speculation, should that be the case, the lower tiers would pay out 48% alone. CASHOnly, this game might pay out 60%.

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            Posted: August 18, 2005, 7:06 pm - IP Logged

            With all these "classic" lotto games being retired, why do Connecticut and NY keep their games going? (The CT game has a good payback, however).

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              With all these "classic" lotto games being retired, why do Connecticut and NY keep their games going? (The CT game has a good payback, however).

              Because they're smart. They know people want a pick 6 game.

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                Posted: August 18, 2005, 7:25 pm - IP Logged

                js:

                NY is a GTech state-I guess that means we won't get a Match-6 style game.

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                  Posted: August 18, 2005, 7:57 pm - IP Logged

                  Annunity or Cash payout? Guess we all know which.

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                    Posted: August 18, 2005, 7:59 pm - IP Logged

                    chewie:

                    There is no reasonable chance the new Ohio game will be annuity-only.

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                      Ohio has constantly improved their SuperLotto game by making it worst.  First is was two plays per dollar, starting jackpots of $4M, minimum rolls of $4M and 3of6 paid $3.  Then they added some numbers and changed it to $1 per play.  Then they limited the amount one ticket could win to $20M when they had bigger jackpots advertised.  People started to play less so they added the bonus ball, got rid of the limit that one ticket could win, offered a free QP for a 3of6 win and got rid of minimum $4M rollover and sales continued to decline.  They recently started to pay $1 for a 3of6 win.  I guess they ran out of ways to improve the game and decided to get rid of it.  The game may change but not the trend of charging more per play for a smaller jackpot.  This move should increase the sales of their Rolling Cash5 and MegaMillions tickets which means this new game will never survive as long the the SuperLotto games did.

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                        Posted: August 18, 2005, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                         

                        O.K. I'm speculating here, but here are the prizes and odds

                         

                        Numbers matched on a

                         vertical, horizontal, or

                        diagonal row. 

                        Prize
                        Odds per $2
                        Match 5
                        Jackpot
                        1 in 6,273,960
                        Match 4
                        $1,000
                        1 in 13,208
                        Match 3
                        $10
                        1 in 140
                        Match 2
                        $2
                        1 in 4

                        Overall odds are approximately 1 in 4.4

                        I could be wrong here though. 

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                          Jimmy , do you really think any State would offer 1:4 odds of winning at least $2 on a $2 ticket?

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                            Jimmy , do you really think any State would offer 1:4 odds of winning at least $2 on a $2 ticket?

                            Well, I was speculating. That sounded like it made the most sense given the article. This is what I was thinking. This thing is confusing.

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