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Lottery fight brewing in Massachusetts

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Posted: October 18, 2005, 11:25 am - IP Logged

1. The 50 yr old throws the ticket away and leaves, not knowing he's got a million dollars.

2. The 82 yr old man comes in to the store, finds the ticket, gets excited and tells the clerk what he's won.

3. The clerk gets on the phone to the 50 yr old regular customer and says, hey, you'd better get down here right away, this old man just took one of your tickets, and maybe you can give me a nice tip for telling you so!

I hope the judge can see through the smoke n mirror story of the clerk and 50 yr old.

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    Posted: October 18, 2005, 12:07 pm - IP Logged

    I'm not familar with the Massachusetts state lottery rules & regs, but here in Illinois a lottery ticket is considered a "bearer instrument". This means whoever is in possession of the ticket is the owner of said ticket, irregardless of how he/she came to be in possession of the ticket (barring an outright theft). That ticket became public domain when it came to rest in that garbage bin. Anyone could've pluck it out of there, you, me, Osama bin laden....Anyone!!

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      Posted: October 18, 2005, 2:02 pm - IP Logged

      that is full of crap. i hope he loses and the old man gets to keep the ticket. i remember some years ago in the midwest two 10 year old girls found a 10,000 scratch ticket. they gave it to their dad and they got to keep the money. if he was stupid enough to throw it out. i would not give him one red cent. not a penny. Rant

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        Posted: October 18, 2005, 2:25 pm - IP Logged

        I think something is going on with the clerk and the man 50 year old guy. Maybe they are scheming together to get the ticket back and will end up spliting the profits.

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          Posted: October 18, 2005, 9:27 pm - IP Logged

          i mean really who scratches a million dollar ticket and see that they won and put it on the side, he is just trying to collect what's not his, period.

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            Posted: October 18, 2005, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

            I'd suggest they settle out of court, where as the old fell'r says, Hey I'll let ya keep your teeth and your dignity, we can then call it a day. End of story!

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              Posted: October 18, 2005, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

              why should St. John have to share it?? Its his...the others are probably in cahoots.

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                Posted: October 19, 2005, 8:38 am - IP Logged

                If you won a million dollars, does that go into the winner's pile? For me it goes into the Super Winners' Pile, never let out of your sight pile, that's why I think this guy is full of crap. I wouldn't put a million dollar ticket in the same "winner pile" as a $10 winner, would you?

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                  Posted: October 19, 2005, 10:35 am - IP Logged

                  If you won a million dollars, does that go into the winner's pile? For me it goes into the Super Winners' Pile, never let out of your sight pile, that's why I think this guy is full of crap. I wouldn't put a million dollar ticket in the same "winner pile" as a $10 winner, would you?

                  No way, it wouldn't go into a pile at all. It would go in my *pocket*. It's St Johns ticket now!Thumbs Up

                   

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                    Posted: October 19, 2005, 10:46 am - IP Logged

                    My point exactly!!!! The deepest pocket on my person. Not in some pile. Might even tuck into my sock, not going to leave it on the counter like "oh well" just a winner, 1 Million, $10, $50 same thing. NO WAY.  Sticking that ticket down my draws.... LOL

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                      Posted: October 19, 2005, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

                      What if there is actual video surveillance that shows the guy who bought the "$600" worth of tickets, scratching them and then tossing a bunch of them in the trash and leaving. Then two minutes later, the tape would show this other guy going through the trash and retrieving the tickets.

                      I know that tickets are a bearer instrument and in my opinion the 82-year-old man should get to keep ALL of the $1 million. But, the way court systems are these days and who knows what kind of jury can be selected, it can go either way if the plaintiff can produce a video tape. You would be surprised what kind of language a lawyer can use or picture he can paint in these situations to sway a jury.

                      On another note, I've seen MANY discarded lottery scratch tickets where the person who tossed it only scratched the corners and sides of the ticket to reveal the 3-letter validation codes. If you play a certain game long enough, you'll get to know which portion of the ticket contains these letters. They don't understand that even if you see a losing 3-letter pattern it doesn't necessarily mean that your ticket is a loser. I mean in most cases, it probably is, but there is that slight chance that you might have just overlooked a big winning ticket. I've also seen situations where the person only scratches the 4-digit validation code and then walks up to the retailer to have it checked at the terminal. The retailer has to input these numbers after scanning it. This is foolish because there is nothing stopping the retailer from lying...or making a mistake when they manually type in those 4 digits. Can you imagine that? The ticket has 1532, which is the $1 million prize, and by mistake they key in 1533, which is a losing ticket.

                      Now I'm not sure how instant game tickets in Mass. are formatted and validated. They may or may not contain validation letters and/or numbers. I'm sure that there is some form of validation though. The point of the story is that if you purchase an instant game ticket it makes sense to scratch the ENTIRE playing surface and double check the outcome of the game. I've had situations where I've almost tossed a winning ticket because one of the winning matching numbers was in a far corner of the ticket and still covered by the metallic coating they use. I saw a 2, but it was actually a 22. Ask yourself, did you match your all your symbols or numbers to see if you've won a prize? It takes all the excitement away from me to just look for the validation codes/letters on the ticket and not "play" the game

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                        Posted: October 19, 2005, 3:16 pm - IP Logged

                        It would seem to me, the moral of the story is, if you find money, shut your mouth and walk away. How many times do you hear about some one being caught for a crime because some one else opened their mouth. Take the ticket to another city, smile, and walk away. Smarter than announcing that you found a million dollars in a trash can - does any one want a share?

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                          Posted: October 19, 2005, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

                          What in the hell was the clerk doing while the 80-year old had his head in the garbage? Did he think the 80-year old was collecting data for an experiment on the contents of convenience store garbage bins? This whole story smells worse than a sewage treatment plant on a hot day.

                           

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                            Posted: October 19, 2005, 4:28 pm - IP Logged

                            The octonagerian (sp?) should sue so he has a fighting chance to collect in lump sum. You remember Louise Outing from last year.

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                              Posted: October 19, 2005, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

                              Hit With Stick What I want to know is how in the hell can anybody put a million dollar scratch off ticket in a pile?  I don't get it.  He probably just scratched the code and threw it away. 

                              I can't see anybody giving him that money.  "Finders keepers, losers weepers"

                               

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