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Once again, U.S. tries to shut down Internet gambling

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Posted: February 20, 2006, 12:30 pm - IP Logged

<< Similar legislation has been introduced over the years, but has been thwarted consistently by notorious gambling lobbyist Jack Abramoff. >>

I see I'm not the only one who singled out that line. Abramoff is notorious for his bribery, not his lobbying, and he didn't thwart anything. He can hand out money and lobby until the end of the world, and the laws will still be the result of what our legisators do. It isn't lobbying that's the problem. It's legislators who do what's in their best interest instead of what they really believe is in our best interests. Of course a lot of them really do believe that preventing you from gambling is in your best interests.

Laws against bribery may be helpful, but what would really be useful would be an enforcebale law against legislators working for their benefit instead of ours.

Isn't it strange that legislatures always have to write laws protecting them from bribes?  Why can't they just say NO?  Then on the otherside, the laws they write always manage to have a loophole big enough to drive a Brinks Truck through.  Amazing how they always over look something like that.  I have NO problem with Jack Abramoff, I have a problem with the rich politicians accepting the bribes.  In the commercial business world, the company executive go to jail, not the briber.  Obviously, there is an advantage to be the law writer!

Ya'll, I've gotta go.  I am just cracking up over these stories and posts this a.m.  Why can't they just say NO?  I Agree!Good question!  So simple!  They have not found anyone they can get kickbacks from making a profits from an all out media blitz.  When they do!....

There is MM, ya'll...And on to the next big jackpot.  In time...what is due will come forth!  Believe it...NOTHING can or will stop it.  AMEN!

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    Won't someone think of the children?After all,it's the children who are going online to spend their hard earned money at off-shore gambling sights.We have to protect them.Can't you people see that?It's all about he children!Hey Timmy,can I borrow your credit card?

    Slap their little butts until they can't take it any more.  Amazing how fast the little brats learn. Nice equals reward. Bad equals slapped butt.  More parental control would lead to less crime.  Little Timmy is only precious to you.  While screaming in a supermarket line, he is a spoiled little brat and a sign of lousy parenting!

    Cheers

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      Yes NodI think that even if they do write laws to stop online gambling, it will start back up again in another manifestation, like the laws governing pay day lending. 

      I don't think it will fly.  The banks, credit card companies, Western Union and the like are making too much money.

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        I think what ever my habbits and hobbies are, I am entitled to them.  I think whatever I decide to purchase from gaming, subscription services, to buying fine wine on my birthday is my business. 

        Our Government Gotta have their hand in everything with the acception of taking care of things like, homelessness and hunger in America, just to name a couple, instead, they'd rather bother the gamblers.Thumbs DownThumbs DownThumbs Down

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          Posted: February 20, 2006, 1:16 pm - IP Logged

          Slap their little butts until they can't take it any more. 

          I Agree!

          ...But there come those laws again!  Government wants to blame parents and then doesn't let parents discipline.  They throw the parents in jail if they try!  The Government should stay the heck out of families.  Domestic violence is nothing but a moneymaker.  If a kid has so much as a tiny "paper cut" but it came from discipline...guess where you end up.

          And it doesn't matter who you vote for, they will all screw you.  You can't even control the price of a postage stamp!  Much less important laws.

           

          (Chewie, don't know how you ever managed to accomplish what you did.  Showing up everyday doesn't guarantee a win - think you just got lucky. But I applaud you.).

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            Yes NodI think that even if they do write laws to stop online gambling, it will start back up again in another manifestation, like the laws governing pay day lending. 

            I don't think it will fly.  The banks, credit card companies, Western Union and the like are making too much money.

            I Agree!  EXACTLY  I Agree! 

            You can't stop what people want, you can just make it more expensive and less healthy.  Prostitution. On-line Porn.  Drugs.  Alcohal.  It never works, and they never stop pushing their agenda.  All it does is make the do-gooders feel better, and the underground richer. Plus, it makes criminals out of normal every day Americans.

            Cheers

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              Too stringent laws would be over ruled by the WTO. Many caribean countries have gambling as the only real revenue left. I don't know how much voting even helps. We have a plutocracy going on now. In seattle some tried to remove a very incompetent Ron Sims but dead people and other illegal/nonexant voters kept him in office. If the local press and people don't care that their vote means anything than what other choices do you have.

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                Posted: February 20, 2006, 1:34 pm - IP Logged

                Slap their little butts until they can't take it any more. 

                I Agree!

                ...But there come those laws again!  Government wants to blame parents and then doesn't let parents discipline.  They throw the parents in jail if they try!  The Government should stay the heck out of families.  Domestic violence is nothing but a moneymaker.  If a kid has so much as a tiny "paper cut" but it came from discipline...guess where you end up. 

                And it doesn't matter who you vote for, they will all screw you.  You can't even control the price of a postage stamp!  Much less important laws.

                 

                (Chewie, don't know how you ever managed to accomplish what you did.  Showing up everyday doesn't guarantee a win - think you just got lucky. But I applaud you.).

                My dad slapped my butt, I slapped my daughters butt, and she slaps her kids butt.  The familiy tradition is to never strike in anger, never to strike any where other then the butt, and control the slap.  Three slaps, to a kid, cause as much heartache as fifty.  Walk away, then discipline.  Sometimes I sat in the middle of the dining room floor for an hour while he calmed down.  But he never hit me in anger.  I am not talking about beatings, I am talking about slaps on the rear.  After the first few slaps on the butt, all I needed was the "look" from my dad.  It scared me more then Frankenstien!  Once I got older, there was no need to it.  I knew the options.  I taught my daughter the same principle.

                Cheers

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                  Posted: February 20, 2006, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

                  Too stringent laws would be over ruled by the WTO. Many caribean countries have gambling as the only real revenue left. I don't know how much voting even helps. We have a plutocracy going on now. In seattle some tried to remove a very incompetent Ron Sims but dead people and other illegal/nonexant voters kept him in office. If the local press and people don't care that their vote means anything than what other choices do you have.

                  US laws cannot be overruled by the WTO.  No body in the whole world can create US laws, except for the US legislature.

                   

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                    Chewie

                    I slapped my daughters butt, and she slaps her kids butt. 

                    The only reason that works...is because the kids didn't call the cops.  The net is full of examples. 

                    Here is one quote from someone that should know:
                    With "Zero Tolerance" arrest policies and "No Drop" prosecutions, the number of arrests for petty family arguments has skyrocketed. A former prosecuting attorney explains the phenomena:

                    "Christopher Pagan, who was until recently a prosecutor in Hamilton County, Ohio, estimates that due to a 1994 state law requiring police on a domestic call either to make an arrest or to file a report explaining why a no arrest was made, "domestics " went from 10 percent to 40 percent of his docket. But, he suggests, that doesn't mean actual abusers were coming to his attention more often. "We started getting a lot of push-and-shoves," says Pagan, "or even yelling matches. " In the past, police officers would intervene and separate the parties to let them cool off. Now those cases end up in criminal courts. It's exacerbating tensions between the parties, and it's turning law-abiding middle class citizens into criminals."

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                      The only reason that works...is because the kids didn't call the cops.  The net is full of examples. 

                      Me?  Call the cops on my parents?  Better I should chop off my toes with a dull knife.  My earliest memory was my parents proving  that the family was all that mattered.  Support the family, and it will support you.  Neighbors, they move away, the family doesn't.  Churches will close down and move to where the money is better.  The family will feed you when you are hungry.  Without the family, there is no security.  You always sleep better at home.  I read an article where two guys turned their father in for robbing banks.  I would never to that.  He is (was) my father.  He sacrificed everything to feed me.  Nothing was too proud for him to make sure I had clothes.  He skipped lunches so I could go to the movies on Saturdays. He worked a 12 hour day, then studied math, so he could help me graduate from grade school.  I should forget that for a gold star on my personnel file?

                      Again, please let me win Tuesday, and get me away from all these liberal doo-gooders!

                      Cheers

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                        Too stringent laws would be over ruled by the WTO. Many caribean countries have gambling as the only real revenue left. I don't know how much voting even helps. We have a plutocracy going on now. In seattle some tried to remove a very incompetent Ron Sims but dead people and other illegal/nonexant voters kept him in office. If the local press and people don't care that their vote means anything than what other choices do you have.

                        US laws cannot be overruled by the WTO.  No body in the whole world can create US laws, except for the US legislature.

                        Hate to say it but the WTO overrules national laws all the time. At least any law related to international trade. That was part of signing on to the WTO. They can't stop the law but can impose tariffs and other sanctions if the laws aren't changed. That's why Bush had to end the steel tariffs in place to try to protect US steel companies. The WTO ruled them illegal and was about to impose sanctions against other US goods.

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                          Please, by all means, quote me the law that the WTO "overruled".  A tarriff (fee) is not a law, if that's what you're implying.

                           

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                            Please, by all means, quote me the law that the WTO "overruled".  A tarriff (fee) is not a law, if that's what you're implying.

                            Wait until Hillary-Ann or John-Boy become President.  The U.N. will approve all of our laws.  The WTO will have the power to shut down our newspapers, and guns will be banned.  Suddan killed fewer people then the U.S. Military did, thus banning the military will save lives and save money.  We won't need a military any way, every citizen will be equal worldwide, so there will be no need for protection.  Dictators will go off the tropical islands, and peace will dominate the world.  Now all we have to do is convince the Arabs to follow the rules of humanity.

                            Cheers

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                              Call the cops on my parents?  Better I should chop off my toes with a dull knife.  My earliest memory was my parents proving that the family was all that mattered.

                              I'm in 100% agreement with that.   I never call the police for any argument.

                              Unfortunately, too many people today do.  Get the Government out of family issues!  That's what I am saying, let families be in charge.

                              That's my last statement in regards to children and gambling/lottery/other "evils."