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Official wants fraud probe of Tennessee Lottery

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four4me's avatar - gate1
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Posted: August 28, 2007, 5:13 pm - IP Logged

I am no computer programmer, but I guarantee you and everyone else, there were no tests done. If the RNG can't generate a double, then there so called test can't generate a double unless , a programmer over rode the code. If a programmer can change the code to generate a double. What's to stop that same programmer from generating a winning number and buying a 100 tickets, or a friend from buying a hundred tickets. They need to back track and see if a big group of winning tickets were purchased at the same time. This is worse than they are saying. They are acting like a cat in a litter box. A fox is in the hen house, Rjoh.

So what your saying basically they sold the system and fixed it so they could buy hundreds or more tickets every day it was broke so to speak and make a 100 fold profit without anyone being the wiser.  Great post.

I said something close to this in another post.

What's to stop Tenn from doing it any time they want.

Also the guy might also have a laptop which communicates with the RNG via wireless connection and he sends whatever number he wants to come out Yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaa! take the money and run......... 

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    Posted: August 28, 2007, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

    OH Rebacca Paul !! LOL  back track to the Georgia Lottery the 777 and don't forget the Flordia Lottery  LoL !!

    One day I will Hit BIG!!

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      Posted: August 28, 2007, 7:20 pm - IP Logged

      There's going to be a lot of p'ed off people that have thrown their losing tickets away that can't get a refund.

      Gonna win.Big Smile

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        Posted: August 28, 2007, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

        She also said the glitch and the publicity about it had not hurt sales of Cash 3 and Cash 4 tickets, which were somewhat higher last week. The lottery has increased the prize money for those games."

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        She would make one hell of a press secretary for some politicion now would'nt she...

        Boy, I feel sorry for the players knowing she's patching this up to the hilt....!

                                                     

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          Posted: August 29, 2007, 11:45 am - IP Logged

          I believe that statement was made to take the attention from who would benefit the most by having a rigged drawing.

          When Hargrove announced the Tennessee Lottery was going to computer drawings she sited "to maximize dollars for education" as one of the reasons. When players began pointing out a possible problem with the new computer drawings because no doubles were drawn, they were told that security had looked into it to insure integrity of its games "to maximize dollars for education".

          Even if we assume the explanations of the "U" and "R" keys as the truth, there is still that matter of those emails saying security ran test draws and doubles were drawn. Hargrove's statements prove that was a lie, but whether or not those emails were sent out by a summer intern or the official lottery spokesperson is irrelevant because the emails came from Hargrove's office. 

          Will the probe investigate that and call for Hargrove's resignation or will they whitewash it because we all know who benefits the most by having a rigged drawing?

          This is one of the most insightful posts I have read on the matter so far!  Let's look at the facts, ask some questions and see who benefits most from this:

          Q. Who made the decision to switch to an RNG?

          A. Rebecca Hargrove

          Q. Who assured us that the drawings would be secure?

          A. Rebecca Hargrove

          Q. Whose office sent out the e-mails telling people the RNG had been tested and doubles were drawn?

          A. Rebecca Hargrove

          Q. Whose office is heading up the investigation?

          A.  Rebecca Hargrove 

          Q. Who will get the credit when the state's education money is fully maximized?

          A. Rebecca Hargrove 

          Q. Who stands to benefit personally (in the form of bonus money) from the additional profit money?

          A. Rebecca Hargrove 

          It doesn't make sense that a programmer (or anyone else) would rig a game and eliminate doubles just top give themself an edge.  There are still a couple of hundred combinations to choose from and not really that much of advantage to someone trying to score big or score consistantly.  But it does make sense for someone in a position of authority to rig the game.  Not only can they justify their decision to the powers that be (and look good in the process) by saying look at how much more profit we made by switching to an RNG but they will also benefit personally from the additional bonus money.

          I read an article on line in The Tennesseean (I think) that listed Rebecca Hargrove's salary at $380,000.  Her personal bonus can be as much as 65% of her base salary.  In real dollars that's $247,000 (if that $380,000 is accurate)!

          Bottom line: 

          She had a motive...the means and the opportunity.  And her statements to date have been disingenous to say the least if not outright lies.  She needs to be looked at hard in this matter.  She shouldn't be investigating the matter.  Rather she should be the target of the investigation.

          Jim 


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            Posted: August 29, 2007, 12:32 pm - IP Logged

            Somebody has lit the fuse..........we'll see how long before the bomb goes off.

             

                                           

                          

             

             

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              Posted: August 29, 2007, 12:40 pm - IP Logged

              Somebody has lit the fuse..........we'll see how long before the bomb goes off.

              I Agree! there are people who didnt want the lottery to come at all so they make use this as a chance to try to get rid of it but they will start off by just agreeing with us players who want the RNG gone.

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                Posted: August 29, 2007, 3:23 pm - IP Logged

                Ripley said in a telephone interview Monday. "I have seen absolutely no evidence of fraud at this point.''

                Ripley's Believe It or Not? I say NOT.

                Ripley, if you see no evidence of fraud, you're blinder than Mr. Magoo.

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                  Posted: August 29, 2007, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

                  and 90 percent of these people who could get their money back with past tickets probably already threw the tickets away once they saw they lost.

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                    Posted: August 29, 2007, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

                    this lottery went from being one of the best to one of the worst.right up there with indy now.

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                      Posted: August 29, 2007, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                      this lottery went from being one of the best to one of the worst.right up there with indy now.

                      I Agree!  they have a long way to go to get another A rating from Todd. dropping the RNG is the only way

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                        Posted: August 29, 2007, 10:33 pm - IP Logged

                        How ironic.  I had just sent the lotto office a Congratulatory message on their ability to gain an "F" for game quality.  :)

                         

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                          Posted: August 30, 2007, 8:30 pm - IP Logged

                           What if... I read that people who program computer viruses sometimes put key combinations into the code to activate it... like ctrl-shift-b-r-o or whatnot. So that whenever someone types the right key combination the virus is activated.  Someone might also put an obscure key combination in to make a program work differently until another key combination is typed in to put the program back in normal mode. What if the code to put said hypothetical program back into normal mode was a keystroke off... the program would get stuck in abnormal mode. That would make any tests previous to the hidden keystroke activation show normal behavior. What if... hmmm... Nah

                           5000 dollars to test a program.. that's good money.

                           200,000 dollars for a faux random number generator... lol whatever.

                           Just put the balls back and be done with it.

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                            Posted: August 30, 2007, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

                            Now get this...unless I read something wrong...the same number...940 came up in Tennessee's Daily 3 midday and evening draws today!  The RNG picked 940 twice in 2 different draws, on one day in the same game!

                            Pffffffffffffffffffffbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbtttttttttttttttt!

                            That ought to get somebody's attention. 

                            Jim 


                            Money frees you from doing things you dislike.  Since I dislike doing nearly everything, money is handy.  - Groucho Marx