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Georgia LotteryGeorgia Lottery: Thieves burn store, steal lottery tickets

Latest in string of lottery ticket thefts 

The boarded up windows at John Patel's convenience store hide the damage within.

"These people, I don't know what to think about them," Patel said of the people who set his business on fire. "They're mentally sick, I think. Why they did the fire, I don't understand."

Early Monday morning, two men broke into Patel's store on Dean Street in Rome, Georgia, stole at least 30 rolls of scratch off lottery tickets, then set a fire in an attempt to cover their tracks.

It was at least the eighth suspicious fire at north Georgia convenience stores this year. There have been nearly a dozen suspicious fires since 2005, three in Rome. Investigators say stolen lottery tickets seem to be a common theme.

In the Rome cases, that's lottery tickets are apparently all that were taken.

"They're not taking money," said Rome-Floyd County Fire Marshal Scott Silvey. "No cigarettes, no food, no beer, no wine, just lottery tickets, then they set the place on fire and leave."

This year, there have been suspicious fires at convenience stores in Floyd, Paulding, Douglas, Fulton, and Walker counties.

The last fire in Rome was only about five miles from John Patel's store. In that case, investigators were able to salvage surveillance video that shows a man dousing the store with lighter fluid, then setting the place on fire. He made off with several rolls of lottery tickets.

Investigators say the two men who broke into John Patel's place were in and out of the store in 19 seconds.

Patel says it will probably take him two or three months to reopen his store.

The Georgia Insurance Commissioner's office is offering a $10,000 reward for anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and conviction in any of these cases.

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Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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Posted: September 5, 2007, 10:27 am - IP Logged

"They're not taking money".

Their goal might not have been to take cash money, but the whole point of stealing lottery tickets is to get the money the tickets win. Hopefully these crooks don't get much out of it.

Gonna win.Big Smile

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    Posted: September 5, 2007, 10:43 am - IP Logged

    Gives new meaning to the instant games such as

    red hot 7's and blazing 8's..  Mad

     

                                   

                  

     

     

      jeffrey's avatar - moon
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      Posted: September 5, 2007, 10:46 am - IP Logged

      In Ohio, you have to activate the tickets. Stealing them is stupid.

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        Posted: September 5, 2007, 11:12 am - IP Logged

        In Ohio, you have to activate the tickets. Stealing them is stupid.

        If they stole them from the display case, they were already activated because they were for sale.

        But I totally agree, stealing them is stupid regardless.  Doh

         

                                       

                      

         

         

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          Posted: September 5, 2007, 11:51 am - IP Logged

          Am I the only one who'd be too paranoid to cash the winning tickets?  I'd be thinking they have the series of numbers that was stolen programmed into the verification system, and it automatically dials 911 when a stolen ticket is scanned.  Is there any way they could cash in a ticket for over $600 that has to be paid by the lottery office?  Surely they'd know they were stolen. 

            Raven62's avatar - binary
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            Posted: September 5, 2007, 12:03 pm - IP Logged

            Maybe they sell the Big Winners to a third party at a discount so they don't get caught cashing in the Winners.

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              Posted: September 5, 2007, 12:16 pm - IP Logged

              In some states, stores won't cash scratch-offs they didn't sell.  These thieves may have to wait until the store is reopened before cashing their winners.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: September 5, 2007, 5:46 pm - IP Logged

                Am I the only one who'd be too paranoid to cash the winning tickets?  I'd be thinking they have the series of numbers that was stolen programmed into the verification system, and it automatically dials 911 when a stolen ticket is scanned.  Is there any way they could cash in a ticket for over $600 that has to be paid by the lottery office?  Surely they'd know they were stolen. 

                There are all sorts of verifications in place, but people who are inclined to steal are not inclined to think that far, and what passes as "punishment" these days does not encourage them to find other means of "employment".

                In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

                  computerhead723's avatar - lightbulb
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                  Posted: September 6, 2007, 4:36 am - IP Logged

                  Latest in string of lottery ticket thefts 

                  The boarded up windows at John Patel's convenience store hide the damage within.

                  "These people, I don't know what to think about them," Patel said of the people who set his business on fire. "They're mentally sick, I think. Why they did the fire, I don't understand."

                  Early Monday morning, two men broke into Patel's store on Dean Street in Rome, Georgia, stole at least 30 rolls of scratch off lottery tickets, then set a fire in an attempt to cover their tracks.

                  It was at least the eighth suspicious fire at north Georgia convenience stores this year. There have been nearly a dozen suspicious fires since 2005, three in Rome. Investigators say stolen lottery tickets seem to be a common theme.

                  In the Rome cases, that's lottery tickets are apparently all that were taken.

                  "They're not taking money," said Rome-Floyd County Fire Marshal Scott Silvey. "No cigarettes, no food, no beer, no wine, just lottery tickets, then they set the place on fire and leave."

                  This year, there have been suspicious fires at convenience stores in Floyd, Paulding, Douglas, Fulton, and Walker counties.

                  The last fire in Rome was only about five miles from John Patel's store. In that case, investigators were able to salvage surveillance video that shows a man dousing the store with lighter fluid, then setting the place on fire. He made off with several rolls of lottery tickets.

                  Investigators say the two men who broke into John Patel's place were in and out of the store in 19 seconds.

                  Patel says it will probably take him two or three months to reopen his store.

                  The Georgia Insurance Commissioner's office is offering a $10,000 reward for anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and conviction in any of these cases.

                  don't  people  know  that  ticket  sales  with  the  Lottery  are  numbered  and  have  a  code  and  bar  code  which  can  identify  tckets  from  that  store  ???

                  I  realy  hate  thieves .....this  was  just  crule  and  unusal  punnishment  to  the  owner  of  that  store  and  his  loyal customers  who  played  the  lottery  there;Dupe Alert

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                    Posted: September 6, 2007, 7:48 am - IP Logged

                    "They're not taking money".

                    Their goal might not have been to take cash money, but the whole point of stealing lottery tickets is to get the money the tickets win. Hopefully these crooks don't get much out of it.

                    I doubt they'll get anything out of it execpt arrested.  The LC knows the numbers on all scratch-offs that are sold to any retailer. They'll set up a red flag/alarm in the computer system and as soon as anyone tries to cash a winning ticket from one of the stolen rolls, they will get the police in there.

                    This is just another example of how many criminals are stupid and don't think farther than the end of their nose.

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                      Badger's avatar - adu50016 NorthAmericanBadger.jpg
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                      Posted: September 6, 2007, 7:50 am - IP Logged

                      Am I the only one who'd be too paranoid to cash the winning tickets?  I'd be thinking they have the series of numbers that was stolen programmed into the verification system, and it automatically dials 911 when a stolen ticket is scanned.  Is there any way they could cash in a ticket for over $600 that has to be paid by the lottery office?  Surely they'd know they were stolen. 

                      Of course they'll know the ticket(s) were stolen.  The idiots that did it are/were probably on some drugs.  Of course, they could simply be really stupid.  Wouldn't be the first time.

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                        Posted: September 6, 2007, 11:01 am - IP Logged

                        Of course they'll know the ticket(s) were stolen.  The idiots that did it are/were probably on some drugs.  Of course, they could simply be really stupid.  Wouldn't be the first time.

                        They'd have to be really stupid to compound theft with arson.  Last I knew, arson was a very serious crime.  And for what?  What are they really covering up?  Maybe they're destroying the security video, but dang.  When they get caught, they'll figure out that wasn't such a smart move.

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                          Posted: September 6, 2007, 11:44 am - IP Logged

                          It's hard to figure out why people without morals do what they do.  I realize that drugs can alter one's thought process and behavior, but it's not a good excuse.  When a couple murders their child or someone burns down a store and I hear "they must be on drugs" I feel it's some kind of explanation for their bad behavior rather than saying that they were s-cum anyway who happened to take drugs too.  You can be a burglar, a rapist, a pedophile, a murderer or an arsonist and be straight & sober too. If I were on drugs I still wouldn't do these things. 

                          Maybe they sell the Big Winners to a third party at a discount so they don't get caught cashing in the Winners.

                          Raven, smart comment!  Is there anything illegal about buying a ticket from someone who isn't an authorized retailer?  They could be stealing $10 tickets and selling them for $1, etc.  Of course most people would realize they're stolen.

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                            Posted: September 8, 2007, 12:28 am - IP Logged

                            I smell smoke, and I don't think lottery tix smoke, if the lottery tix get burned up in the fire, then, the state get's involved in the fire investigation, lottery theft sounds like a good excuse to post a claim for some insurance mony, and that equate's to higher insurance premiums on everybody else. hum.

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