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Winner of New York's biggest lottery jackpot sold himself the ticket

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JackpotWanna's avatar - squiz

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Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

Wow! He is only 22!!!!!  Party 

 

"There is no limit to how much Alsaidi could eventually take. If he lives to be more than 100, his winnings will be nearly $40 million, before taxes."

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    Posted: January 22, 2008, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

    Wow! He is only 22!!!!!  Party 

     

    "There is no limit to how much Alsaidi could eventually take. If he lives to be more than 100, his winnings will be nearly $40 million, before taxes."

    He is a very lucky guy. I would love to win $10,000 a week for life. Yes Nod 

    "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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      Posted: January 22, 2008, 5:46 pm - IP Logged

      He is a very lucky guy. I would love to win $10,000 a week for life. Yes Nod 

      I Agree! I would love to win $1,000 a week for life! 

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        Posted: January 22, 2008, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

        I Agree! I would love to win $1,000 a week for life! 

        Yeah I would take that also. I'm not picky. LOL

        "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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          Posted: January 24, 2008, 2:29 pm - IP Logged

          Once again we have a retailer or some employee of an establishment where lottery tickets are sold who has "picked" a jackpot winner. I don't know about everyone else, but I keep hearing too many of these stories lately. I personally think it should be prohibited for anyone who works in a store that sells lottery scratch game tickets (regardless of whether they are a manager, clerk, etc.) to be able to buy these tickets from that location. This should apply whether they are on or off duty too.

          I have played these games on occasion over the past several years and in that time I have come to realize and observe that some retailers like to "keep track" on the winners and losers in some rolls. I know it's not discussed much or ever admitted, but I'm sure it happens.

          This is especially true with the more expensive ($10-$20) scratch tickets, where the turnaround is much slower than the cheaper ($1-$2-$5) tickets. For example, if you are behind the counter and notice that 5 tickets from a certain $10-$20 roll were bought by a previous customer only to be losers, your chances of getting a winner on the next one are much better. However, someone who just walks in off the street would not know that. 

          I always get an uneasy feeling whenever I walk into a store and I spot the clerk scratching tickets behind the counter. It just doesn't look good and I end up not buying from the place whenever I see that happening.

          It should be the same as when some organization is holding a contest, sweepstakes or whatever. There is usually some list of rules or fine print somewhere that usually states that employees of that company (or even family members in most cases) are not eligible to participate.

          It's just trying to keep things fair (on the same playing field) and not offer any unfair advantages, no matter how large or small they appear to be.

          I must comment on the this story and I too am not in favor of retailers being able to play the NY State Lottery. Here is why:

          Most people are not aware that to speed up the cashing process of tickets (this is according to the NYS Lottery commision) no part of the front of any NY Instant Lottery ticket needs to be exposed. They calim to have built in security measures to keep dishonest retailers from cheating the system. They also claim that they can not reveal what type of system they use.

          All the retailer has to do is take any unscratched ticket and scan the barcode on the back. The four digit number on the front no longer needs to be exposed. This means that if a retailer checks a ticket and it is a loser he leaves it for a unsuspecting customer to purchase. The retailers have shown me that this is true. Ask any retailer to check an unscratched ticket you have puchased. This is a poor system that has many holes. Just to make sure you fully understand what I am saying I will repeat this process. NO PART OF THE FRONT PORTION OF ANY INSTANT NY LOTTERY TICKET NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED. THIS INFO IS FROM THE NYS LOTTERY COMISSION. I WROTE TO THEM AND THAT WAS THEIR REPLY. THEY SAID I WAS CORRECT THAT THE FOUR DIGIT CODE ON THE FRONT DOES NOT NEED TO BE EXPOSED....THIS NEW METHOD OF ONLY NEEDING THE BARCODE ON THE BACK IS TO SPEED UP THE CASHING PROCESS. THIS MEANS ANY RETAILER HAS THE ABILITY TO CHECK TICKETS. i DONT CARE IF THEY HAVE SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE TO PREVENT THE RETAILERS FROM CHEATING. THEY STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.

          If anyone wants to check this out...ask any retailer or write to the NYS Lottery yourselves.

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            Posted: January 24, 2008, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

            I must comment on the this story and I too am not in favor of retailers being able to play the NY State Lottery. Here is why:

            Most people are not aware that to speed up the cashing process of tickets (this is according to the NYS Lottery commision) no part of the front of any NY Instant Lottery ticket needs to be exposed. They calim to have built in security measures to keep dishonest retailers from cheating the system. They also claim that they can not reveal what type of system they use.

            All the retailer has to do is take any unscratched ticket and scan the barcode on the back. The four digit number on the front no longer needs to be exposed. This means that if a retailer checks a ticket and it is a loser he leaves it for a unsuspecting customer to purchase. The retailers have shown me that this is true. Ask any retailer to check an unscratched ticket you have puchased. This is a poor system that has many holes. Just to make sure you fully understand what I am saying I will repeat this process. NO PART OF THE FRONT PORTION OF ANY INSTANT NY LOTTERY TICKET NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED. THIS INFO IS FROM THE NYS LOTTERY COMISSION. I WROTE TO THEM AND THAT WAS THEIR REPLY. THEY SAID I WAS CORRECT THAT THE FOUR DIGIT CODE ON THE FRONT DOES NOT NEED TO BE EXPOSED....THIS NEW METHOD OF ONLY NEEDING THE BARCODE ON THE BACK IS TO SPEED UP THE CASHING PROCESS. THIS MEANS ANY RETAILER HAS THE ABILITY TO CHECK TICKETS. i DONT CARE IF THEY HAVE SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE TO PREVENT THE RETAILERS FROM CHEATING. THEY STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.

            If anyone wants to check this out...ask any retailer or write to the NYS Lottery yourselves.

            If true, that would be pretty bad security.

             

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              Posted: January 25, 2008, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

              I must comment on the this story and I too am not in favor of retailers being able to play the NY State Lottery. Here is why:

              Most people are not aware that to speed up the cashing process of tickets (this is according to the NYS Lottery commision) no part of the front of any NY Instant Lottery ticket needs to be exposed. They calim to have built in security measures to keep dishonest retailers from cheating the system. They also claim that they can not reveal what type of system they use.

              All the retailer has to do is take any unscratched ticket and scan the barcode on the back. The four digit number on the front no longer needs to be exposed. This means that if a retailer checks a ticket and it is a loser he leaves it for a unsuspecting customer to purchase. The retailers have shown me that this is true. Ask any retailer to check an unscratched ticket you have puchased. This is a poor system that has many holes. Just to make sure you fully understand what I am saying I will repeat this process. NO PART OF THE FRONT PORTION OF ANY INSTANT NY LOTTERY TICKET NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED. THIS INFO IS FROM THE NYS LOTTERY COMISSION. I WROTE TO THEM AND THAT WAS THEIR REPLY. THEY SAID I WAS CORRECT THAT THE FOUR DIGIT CODE ON THE FRONT DOES NOT NEED TO BE EXPOSED....THIS NEW METHOD OF ONLY NEEDING THE BARCODE ON THE BACK IS TO SPEED UP THE CASHING PROCESS. THIS MEANS ANY RETAILER HAS THE ABILITY TO CHECK TICKETS. i DONT CARE IF THEY HAVE SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE TO PREVENT THE RETAILERS FROM CHEATING. THEY STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE.

              If anyone wants to check this out...ask any retailer or write to the NYS Lottery yourselves.

              You are 100% right and I have noticed this too. This issue should really be brought to the attention of more people because I'm pretty sure they are not aware of it.

              For example, I have noticed the following: If I'm playing $1-$2 scratch games and get some of the lower-tier prizes ($1, $2, $4), when I bring those tickets to be cashed to a retailer, all they do is scan the bar code in the back of the ticket and it tells them that it's a winner and for that amount.

              Now I've noticed that let's say I have a more higher-tier prize ($10, $20, $50, 100$+), when they scan the back of that ticket, there is some audible beep from the machine, which then prompts the clerk to type in the 4-digit code from the front that was previously covered.

              However, I have noticed that when some people give tickets to a retailer to have them verified (just in case, but usually losers), the retailer just scans the back of those ticekts and can immediately tell that person that it's a loser and not a winner.

              So what's stopping a retailer (perhaps after hours) from scanning the backs of unscratched tickets in a roll to determine which are losers, lower-tier prize winners, or higher-tier prize winners??

              I know that all rolls are intact and you can't really just pick any ticket from the middle of the roll without breaking the # sequence of tickets, but you would sure be able to know (if you really wanted) that ticket #36 is a winner for example in one roll and keep your eye out for it.

              I think the bottom line here is for the average lottery player to steer clear of scratch-offs. They are just teasers and designed to take your money very quickly. Whatever winnings that are won are usually lower-tier anyway and you'd be lucky just to break even. At least with draw games you can have some forms of better strategies and play your favorite numbers.

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                Posted: January 26, 2008, 12:14 am - IP Logged

                From talking to a few lottery retailers I have learned that if they scan too many tickets that are losers the machine somehow lets the lottery headquarters know that something is fishy. I would consider 1 ticket scanned dishonestly TOO MANY! Lets say I walk in and purchase that previously scanned ticket, I am a sure loser and the retailer knows it. This is no way to run a lottery. These stores opperate 24 hrs a day and it is usually 1 person alone in the store. Even if they check 1 ticket a day they are still selling a guaranteed losing ticket to somebody. I try to buy my tickets from stores that I know are always busy and not open 24 hrs. I cant help but wonder if I am being ripped off or not. Anybody with a brain would think the same thing if they saw that the machine can tell if it is a winning ticket but just scanning the reverse side. I dont know how many more people will read the messages relating to this story but I will try to post it as often as possible. I am knew to this board and not sure how things run around here so if repeatng stories on here is a NO-NO then I am sure someone will let me know.

                 Good Luck to All......It seems we need it more than ever

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                  Posted: January 26, 2008, 7:51 am - IP Logged

                  wow

                  that shouds like a pretty good game. I wish we had a game like that.

                  2nd that WOW>>>>>

                  THAT'$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ A LOTTO $ALAMI  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                  Much butter than that 6/42 WIN for LIFE "KRAP" in some states!

                  LOL

                  PSYKOMO 

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                    Posted: January 26, 2008, 8:08 am - IP Logged

                    From talking to a few lottery retailers I have learned that if they scan too many tickets that are losers the machine somehow lets the lottery headquarters know that something is fishy. I would consider 1 ticket scanned dishonestly TOO MANY! Lets say I walk in and purchase that previously scanned ticket, I am a sure loser and the retailer knows it. This is no way to run a lottery. These stores opperate 24 hrs a day and it is usually 1 person alone in the store. Even if they check 1 ticket a day they are still selling a guaranteed losing ticket to somebody. I try to buy my tickets from stores that I know are always busy and not open 24 hrs. I cant help but wonder if I am being ripped off or not. Anybody with a brain would think the same thing if they saw that the machine can tell if it is a winning ticket but just scanning the reverse side. I dont know how many more people will read the messages relating to this story but I will try to post it as often as possible. I am knew to this board and not sure how things run around here so if repeatng stories on here is a NO-NO then I am sure someone will let me know.

                     Good Luck to All......It seems we need it more than ever

                    G@@D>>>>>INFO pontil:

                    I think UR within UR........RIGHT's with this post & I "LIKE-IT" !!!!!!!

                    Something does sound FISHEY about retailer's buy'n UP ticket's ??

                    Lot of them seem to be BIG WINNER's for one reason or other  ???

                    YOU>>>>>> REPORTED WELL, "I'm STICKIN to YOUR STORY" !!!!!!

                    LOL

                    PSYKOMO 

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                      Posted: January 26, 2008, 8:09 am - IP Logged

                      Not saying they shouldnt be eligible to win. They just shouldn't be able to purchase the tickets from the store where they work.

                      Taking into account the arguements given here, that does seem appropriate.  I hope they make that official then.

                      I always thought if the retailers scanned the tickets to see if they were winners, there was some way the lottery headquarters could tell if it had been sold first or not.  That seems a better option.  Maybe they should fix it to where they can't scan the ticket unless it has been scanned to sell first.

                      What do you think?  Sounds better, huh?  Then no one could have an unfair advantage, except those clerks paying attention.  Which, in my opinion takes effort in a busy store.  So if they are willing to spend their time doing that, it isn't any different than some other strategy we come up with to pick 3's and pick 4's, mega millions and powerball.  We observe and strategize.  Does that mean we have an unfair advantage?  Still, no skin off my back if they change it to where clerks/retail owners can't buy them at the store they work at. 

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