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Tennessee may cap lottery winnings at $600 for poor

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Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:15 pm - IP Logged

Welfare/Food Stamps

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    Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:19 pm - IP Logged

    Isn't wellfare like an Insurance, you put in money so that whenever you are out of a job, you got something to fall on...wellfare does not last forever....

    i find it funny how someone say that we should eliminate welfare and look in the SITUTATION THAT THE USA IS IN....I sometimes wonder if people double think the stuff they say or they just mention it to be part of a group...

    No, what you are talking about is Unemployment insurance, you pay a tax each pay period so that if you are laid off you can collect benefits under certain conditions. The key here to note is that you "PAY" for this each pay period, therefore, it is not "Welfare".

    Welfare, anybody down and out can get a check, regardless of the fact that you did or did'nt have a job.

      mjwinsmith's avatar - moon

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      Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

      I don't have a problem with people who are down on their luck being on welfare.Anyone can can have a bad run of luck and find themselves on welfare.I DO have a problem with career welfare cheats,those folks who are 2nd & 3rd generation welfare recipiants.These people simply don't want to work and are content to lay around and collect a check and foodstamps from the government.I can't say that someone on welfare can afford to buy nice clothes and expensive suv's with 25 inch rims.They don't make anywhere near  that kind of money on welfare.Some welfare recipiants might buy cigs & booze with their checks,but again,they don't make that kind of money on the welfare roles.I don't have a problem with a person on welfare buying an occasional lottery ticket,but I suspect that most would have a hard time finding an extra dollar to spend on the lottery without depriving their children of food & clothing.Sure,you'll find some that will ignore their children's needs but I think most believe that their children come first.If they do buy a winning lottery ticket I believe that they should repay the welfare system before collecting any winnings.If after repaying the system there is money left it should go to the winner.And I don't believe that welfare should be eliminated because there will always be people in need.I do think that there should be limits on how much help the welfare system can help you with.

      Excellent point MaddMike51, the system was set up to give people a hand up or helping hand in bad times or situations, not a hand out or a free ride forever.

        Rocket 455's avatar - rocket
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        Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

        States are starting to go broke, that's why.

         I wonder how how much the derivatives crash contributed to states going broke. I know for a fact that a lot of hospitals and schools got caught up in it. The wife says the amount of people cashing unemployment checks is growing fast.. and jobs are shrinking with no end in sight. We've been had.

        She was made for the straitaways
        She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
        She's a rocket
        She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

          Rocket 455's avatar - rocket
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          Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:30 pm - IP Logged

          Welfare/Food Stamps

           Heh, ok. Thanks for your input TopCop.. Oh hey, here's a tip for you, there might be some fraud going on on wall street.

          She was made for the straitaways
          She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
          She's a rocket
          She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

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            Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:39 pm - IP Logged

            And here's one for you

            There's fraud that goes on Everyday in Everyway whether it's Welfare, Wall Street , Etc........I investigate it alland arrest them all  and you know what there AKA Criminals ...Heh Ok

              Rocket 455's avatar - rocket
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              Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:44 pm - IP Logged

              This is good stuff.  I'm tired of people who are on welfare and food stamps. I saw a bumper sticker the other day: "Work Harder, Millions on Welfare Depend on You!"

               

              I've seen people on welfare and food stamps have nicer clothes than me; have expensive suv's with 25 inch rims!!; all they buy is liquore and cigerettes.   I think the US should eliminate welfare.

               I certainly don't agree with people abusing a system and defrauding us out of our money. You should have reported the fraud. Personally I've never seen anyone on food stamps driving a cadilac or an SUV with "25 inch rims" (smaller tires are better people... think), but I'm sure it happens.

               Disabled vets, disabled workers, mentally ill, auto workers out of a job, single mothers, single fathers.. maried couples with medical bills they could never pay off... etc etc. etc. and 25 inch rims owners... are you going paint them all with one swipe of your brush?

              She was made for the straitaways
              She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
              She's a rocket
              She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

                Rocket 455's avatar - rocket
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                Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:45 pm - IP Logged

                And here's one for you

                There's fraud that goes on Everyday in Everyway whether it's Welfare, Wall Street , Etc........I investigate it alland arrest them all  and you know what there AKA Criminals ...Heh Ok

                 Yeah we've all seen the Maddoff charade. Thanks.

                She was made for the straitaways
                She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
                She's a rocket
                She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

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                  Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:53 pm - IP Logged

                  This is good stuff.  I'm tired of people who are on welfare and food stamps. I saw a bumper sticker the other day: "Work Harder, Millions on Welfare Depend on You!"

                   

                  I've seen people on welfare and food stamps have nicer clothes than me; have expensive suv's with 25 inch rims!!; all they buy is liquore and cigerettes.   I think the US should eliminate welfare.

                  Eliminate food stamps and welfare? So we should just let people starve and lose their housing? There are bad apples who are abusing the system, but there are good, decent people who are on welfare and need it. So you think we should punish everyone because of what the bad people are doing? Tell me, what will happen to those who truly need help? The ones who lost their jobs, the ones who have children to feed. Should we just let those people starve? What is your great plan to help those people in need, especially since the econonmy is bad right now and jobs are hard to find. Not everyone is abusing the system. If you see someone who is, why not report them.

                  "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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                    Posted: April 8, 2009, 4:58 pm - IP Logged

                     I certainly don't agree with people abusing a system and defrauding usout of our money. You should have reported the fraud. Personally I'venever seen anyone on food stamps driving a cadilac or an SUV with "25inch rims" (smaller tires are better people... think), but I'm sure ithappens.

                     

                     

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                    You come to my city , the City of Pittsburgh and I will take you for a short drive thru  ALL the projects and lower economic neighborhoods and show you these Cadillacs, SUV'S .The people in these area's are  on welfare, get food stamps,WIC, Free clothing. Free Medical Care, Catholic Charities, Sponge for free food and money from the local churches and guess what there rent bill is only $35.00, They get their Electric paid for on different crisis systems, along wiht their gas,  because HUD pays for it and to top it off if they can't afford the rent they go to local charities for rent money , security deposits whatever .They have any where from 2 to 4  full time paid security guards per shift  in these area's to keep the peace and  protect them  . They Get new appliances once a year if they go bad or get destroyed.

                    They scam the system , The Girlfriend collects all the welfare while they deal drugs and drive these SUV'S.

                     

                      I don't agree with abuse of the system or any system for that matter.

                      Rocket 455's avatar - rocket
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                      Posted: April 8, 2009, 5:01 pm - IP Logged

                       I certainly don't agree with people abusing a system and defrauding usout of our money. You should have reported the fraud. Personally I'venever seen anyone on food stamps driving a cadilac or an SUV with "25inch rims" (smaller tires are better people... think), but I'm sure ithappens.

                       

                       

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                      You come to my city , the City of Pittsburgh and I will take you for a short drive thru  ALL the projects and lower economic neighborhoods and show you these Cadillacs, SUV'S .The people in these area's are  on welfare, get food stamps,WIC, Free clothing. Free Medical Care, Catholic Charities, Sponge for free food and money from the local churches and guess what there rent bill is only $35.00, They get their Electric paid for on different crisis systems, along wiht their gas,  because HUD pays for it and to top it off if they can't afford the rent they go to local charities for rent money , security deposits whatever .They have any where from 2 to 4  full time paid security guards per shift  in these area's to keep the peace and  protect them  . They Get new appliances once a year if they go bad or get destroyed.

                      They scam the system , The Girlfriend collects all the welfare while they deal drugs and drive these SUV'S.

                       

                        I don't agree with abuse of the system or any system for that matter.

                       But your own laws and lack of enforcing laws created the very situation you despise. I'm afraid when you finally get it it will be too late. The poor are not your enemy.

                      She was made for the straitaways
                      She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
                      She's a rocket
                      She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

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                        Posted: April 8, 2009, 6:12 pm - IP Logged

                         I certainly don't agree with people abusing a system and defrauding usout of our money. You should have reported the fraud. Personally I'venever seen anyone on food stamps driving a cadilac or an SUV with "25inch rims" (smaller tires are better people... think), but I'm sure ithappens.

                         

                         

                        In Re:

                        You come to my city , the City of Pittsburgh and I will take you for a short drive thru  ALL the projects and lower economic neighborhoods and show you these Cadillacs, SUV'S .The people in these area's are  on welfare, get food stamps,WIC, Free clothing. Free Medical Care, Catholic Charities, Sponge for free food and money from the local churches and guess what there rent bill is only $35.00, They get their Electric paid for on different crisis systems, along wiht their gas,  because HUD pays for it and to top it off if they can't afford the rent they go to local charities for rent money , security deposits whatever .They have any where from 2 to 4  full time paid security guards per shift  in these area's to keep the peace and  protect them  . They Get new appliances once a year if they go bad or get destroyed.

                        They scam the system , The Girlfriend collects all the welfare while they deal drugs and drive these SUV'S.

                         

                          I don't agree with abuse of the system or any system for that matter.

                        Boy TOPCOP 38   YOU  SURE  BRING  BACK  THE  DAYS  OF  RACIAL  HATERED  ...WITH  YOUR  OPINIONS  ABOUT  WHO  LIVES  WHERE  AND  WHAT  THEY  DRIVE  .....I     lived  in  Pittsburg  and    I  had  a  lot  of  both  professional  and  personal  contact  with  the  so  called  projects ?!!

                        first  of  all  its  public  housing  availible  to  any  who  qualify  ......including  forign  nationals ;

                        and   did  you  ever  think  that   those  nice  cars  came  from   vistors  or  mabey  they  had  it  before  they  moved  in  the  housing  unit  not  to  mention  people  work  there   who  own   nice   cars ..............some   are  units  that  people  can  own   the  house /apt ... also .......

                        pproff  of  income  is   a  mandatory   condition   before  geting   a  unit  ,  not  everyone  is  selected.............Eek

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                           Or...  maybe poor people can work hard enough to just be able to afford a nice freaking car if they save for a year or two.

                           Wait.. that requires thought beyond corporate media propaganda and racist/classist prejudices.

                           Nevermind...

                          She was made for the straitaways
                          She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
                          She's a rocket
                          She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

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                            I know a LOT of folks on welfare and they aren't driving SUV's anything else close to that.  Most of them I know ride the bus or walk.  They get a meager amount of cash from the state and the rest is made up in food stamps which DO NOT last for the whole month if they have over 2 children and heaven forbid if one of those children is a teenager.(eating machine).  They shop (if at all) at the local goodwill, flea markets, etc.   Their children are the ones who wear one outfit one week and the other outfit the  next week rotating like this for the whole year. They are the ones who don't have coats during the winter or hardly ever get new shoes. I feel that this is a waste of my taxpayer dollars to propose legislation such as this.  Everyone should know that if a person who is on public assistance wins, they have to pay back the state period.  This legislation was proposed by someone who needs to get a life and find out what the state REALLY needs like more factories, jobs, industries and more quality education. These bozos on the hill aren't doing anything but trying to justify their positions with all of these assinine pieces of legislation that mean nothing and will go NO where! They are wasting our tax dollars!!

                            If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                            You never know when you will get another hit.

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                              I know a LOT of folks on welfare and they aren't driving SUV's anything else close to that.  Most of them I know ride the bus or walk.  They get a meager amount of cash from the state and the rest is made up in food stamps which DO NOT last for the whole month if they have over 2 children and heaven forbid if one of those children is a teenager.(eating machine).  They shop (if at all) at the local goodwill, flea markets, etc.   Their children are the ones who wear one outfit one week and the other outfit the  next week rotating like this for the whole year. They are the ones who don't have coats during the winter or hardly ever get new shoes. I feel that this is a waste of my taxpayer dollars to propose legislation such as this.  Everyone should know that if a person who is on public assistance wins, they have to pay back the state period.  This legislation was proposed by someone who needs to get a life and find out what the state REALLY needs like more factories, jobs, industries and more quality education. These bozos on the hill aren't doing anything but trying to justify their positions with all of these assinine pieces of legislation that mean nothing and will go NO where! They are wasting our tax dollars!!

                               Thank you Little.

                              She was made for the straitaways
                              She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
                              She's a rocket
                              She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea