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Tennessee may cap lottery winnings at $600 for poor

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Perfecttiming2's avatar - redcross

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Posted: April 8, 2009, 6:47 pm - IP Logged

I Agree! with HaveABall...in fact, I'll take the Powerball plus 5 matching numbers tonight Alex for $100! (If you're not a fan of Tyler Perry's movies, you won't get it LOL )

Thinking objectively about this, it makes total sense what this congressman is proposing.  But in another view, I find it somewhat "Unamerican, and somewhat downright socialist, to cap the profit potential in our free enterprise system (yes that is occurring, but then again right now those companies subject to earnings caps are LOSING money...once they right the ship and pay back the government...let the good times continue to roll for those CEOs...though I do feel that they are jumping ship with many people's 401ks in tow as their job is to lead their respective companies to profitability...those who do the opposite should take the honorable stance that any ship captain or military general (back in the old days) would do and that is go down fighting...it seems they do the opposite now...they bail out with a load of loot and watch the doomed suckers in the plane that just ran out of fuel and no other parachutes go down in flames while they live...to either see another day or run off to play golf and travel the world in first class style!)  Yeah I know that was one hell of a Rant

But getting back on point... a more American way would be to require those winning over $20,000 (as HaveABall stated) to pay back any assistance they received.  In this way, a person winning such a windfall would not just view it as a time to go out and blow it (though many still will).  Instead, now that person could use part of it to put themselves through an accredited degree program in order to land a better paying job.  Or to relocate to somewhere where jobs are available in their current skill and occupation. Or start up a small business they had outlined would take, say $5,000 to start.  All of those things would likely lead to that person permanently removing themselves from taxpayer assisted programs.  But to cap their winnings at $600 when they may have had the winning ticket for a state lottery or, God forbid, the Powerball would guarantee that person would REMAIN on taxpayer assisted programs for many years to come.  Not a smart move in my opinion.  Sure I know that not everyone will do any of the three things I mentioned above, but then again, even those well educated make mistakes too!

Comeon Powerball...I am not receiving gubment handouts so let me win Powerball TONIGHT!  TO-NIGHT everything's gonna be AL-RIGHT!  This is my chance to...POWERBALL!

"I'll take the Powerball plus 5 matching numbers tonight Alex for $100! (If you're not a fan of Tyler Perry's movies, you won't get it LOL )".......

 

Hi OldSchoolPa!

I love that!......and I'm a big TP fan too!

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    Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

    I think some here apparently think that all Welfare/Food stamp recipients are deadbeats who are too lazy to get a job despite the fact there are many single, tax paying parents out there who have children and do in fact work, sometimes more than one job and still need assistance be it food stamps or Medi-cade. The real problem IS those who are just comfortable suckling at the government teat or actually have kids so they can get more money and continue to receive it or flat out abuse the system but to group all of them together is total ignorance. That said, the welfare system needs another major overhaul (though I would prefer elimination if done properly) but our government is too incompetent to do it properly and besides our wonderful politicians spend our tax dollars on worse things, such as trillions of dollars in bailouts that won't work and never have worked in the past.

    If someone is on government assistance, spends a dollar and hits a jackpot then by all means, they should pay it back but they sure as hell SHOULD get the remaining amount, not just a measly $600, that's just screwed up and flat out criminal.

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      Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

      This Campfield guy is such a jerk he has rental property in Knoxville that is slum housing and won't fix the problems so some college kids had to take him to court to get the stuff fixed. Stay out of peoples business Campfield and fix your slum housing!!!!!!

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        Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:19 pm - IP Logged

        Tennessee is just going to hell. Who are they to discourage people from engaging in a perfectly legal game? This is just communism in disguise. As long as people on welfare do not go asking for extra money before they are eligible for more they have the right to do whatever they wish with it.

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          Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:28 pm - IP Logged

          Tennessee is just going to hell. Who are they to discourage people from engaging in a perfectly legal game? This is just communism in disguise. As long as people on welfare do not go asking for extra money before they are eligible for more they have the right to do whatever they wish with it.

           Real communism has never been tried on a large scale... that was all fascism/oligarchy, but I've had a lot of fun on small comunes where everyone considers each other equal. Very peaceful... happy times.

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            Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

            Check out these requirements for welfare in Tn. They are mind boggling!

            Program Description
            Families First is Tennessee's welfare reform plan that replaced the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program. The temporary cash assistance program emphasizes work, training, and personal responsibility. As part of the Families First program, each participant must agree to follow a Personal Responsibility Plan (PRP). Unless a participant is exempt from the work requirement, he/she must also agree to develop, follow, and complete a work plan. The work plan is based on the individual's needs and skills.

            General Program Requirements
            In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Tennessee, under 19 years of age, not covered by health insurance (including Medicaid), a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, or pregnant, and you must have an annual household income before taxes of less than $36,425 if two people live in the household; $45,775 if three people live in the household; $55,125 if four people live in the household; $64,475 if five people live in the household; $73,825 if six people live in the household; $83,175 if seven people live in the household; $92,525 if eight people live in the household; and $101,875 if more than eight people live in the household. For larger households, add $9,350 for each additional person in the home. Depending on your income level, you may have to pay a premium for coverage. Please see this state's program information for details.

            If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

            You never know when you will get another hit.

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              Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:45 pm - IP Logged

               I've fallen under the limit for welfare for the past year or so but I won't take it. I seriously couldn't take the stink of it. This fascist system is out of control. I'll live or die a free man.

              She was made for the straitaways
              She grew up hatin' Chevrolets
              She's a rocket
              She was made to burn. ~Kathy Mattea

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                Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

                With limits like that almost half the people here are qualified for welfare. But, I don't see how they have those numbers and they actually do not give much assistance to the poor.  Maybe those are the numbers for the "rich" poor.  You know, the ones who lost their money in the stock market.

                If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                You never know when you will get another hit.


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                  Posted: April 8, 2009, 9:50 pm - IP Logged

                  Cussing FaceLet It All OutI am outrage at the fact that some of you people say that asistance shouldn't be given the poor and needy. where your compassion this maybe the land of milk and honey but we still have people sleeping on the street  and children that goes to bed hungryArgue The people should be OUTRAGE in Tenn.at this injustice bestowed upon them by lottery official. Yes if anyone on welfare as you put it wins the lottery they should get their money just like any one else. what the HELL wrong with you people agreeing with those rather unseenly characters.Evil UhhIn our state they do pay back any debts to the state.But people have found a way to get around that too.Who in the hell  make you guys lord and emperor.Madenough of the bull s_ _t!!!! Eliminate welfare I quess you stop giving it to the big businesses,cause they are the biggest receiver of welfare.Yes Nod So stop hating on a lucky soul!!!!Hurray!

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                    Posted: April 8, 2009, 11:18 pm - IP Logged

                    I wonder what kind of waste, fraud, abuse and corruption The Tennessee Legislature is up to when they have to resort to diversionary tactics like this to get the voters to fight amongst themselves while ignoring what is going on in Tennessee government.  Perhaps I am on the wrong track but look at how effective this was at getting people to fight amongst themselves while ignoring the Tenn government.  I'm glad I don't live in Tennessee but I am sure something else is probably going on up here too.

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                      Posted: April 8, 2009, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

                      People who win the lotto and are on welfare should pay back what they got from the Gov't but NOT everything they win!   The state seems to love to keep poor folks down and to make more people poorer.  How does this help anyone?  Say someone wins 100 grand and the state gives 600 to the winner. Do you think the state will use the money wisely? NO it will be squandered like all tax money.   Huge taxes on people who make wealth (earned or won) doesn't help poor people only makes more people poor.  If spreading the wealth and huge taxes works then why aren't Cuba, /N.Korea, and Venezula Socialist paradises?  Because socialism/Communism only helps a small minority gain power and NEVER spreads wealth only MISERY.   The hatred of people that earned money or won it is irrational.  How does it help you in your daily life if the Gov't taxed Millionaires 90% or more?  NONE!  Only now some people can feel they GOT BACK at the "Evil" rich people.    Rich people seem to be targets more than ever, if you win Powerball or MegaMillions take the money and run!!  Money=Freedom=Power to control your own life.  If you have financial freedom the Gov't can't control/run your life.   If you depend of the Gov't for a check or assistance they can also take it away.   There is a quote from the bible that goes "The Rich rules over the poor, the borrower is servent to the lender".  If the Gov't is free to decide who can get rich or poor we are all SLAVES of the state! Sorry for the  Rant......

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                        Posted: April 9, 2009, 12:54 am - IP Logged

                        I'm not pessimistic.  I think people on welfare are lazy.  My friend is a single father of 3 children and he has 2 part-time jobs; he's not on welfare and he's not lazy.

                        I get low pay but I'm not dumb enough to have kids yet.  I wait until I get a good steady job.  When you buy Liquor, Cigarettes and Lottery on welfare money, you're defeating the purpose of welfare money.   I was disgusted when I saw a mother today who yelled at her kids that she couldn't have a 99 cent candy bar and she hungry.  Instead, the mother got more beer for herself.  I'm completely disgusted by that.

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                          Posted: April 9, 2009, 5:44 am - IP Logged

                          Tennesseans can get around this by buying a subscription to the Massachusetts Lottery games. If corporations can get billions in welfare, even before the crises, what is wrong with the little guy getting a little, and it is very very little.  Rep. Stacey Campfield should get her knickers in a twist about the big boys, or have campaign donors bought both sides?

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                            I know a LOT of folks on welfare and they aren't driving SUV's anything else close to that.  Most of them I know ride the bus or walk.  They get a meager amount of cash from the state and the rest is made up in food stamps which DO NOT last for the whole month if they have over 2 children and heaven forbid if one of those children is a teenager.(eating machine).  They shop (if at all) at the local goodwill, flea markets, etc.   Their children are the ones who wear one outfit one week and the other outfit the  next week rotating like this for the whole year. They are the ones who don't have coats during the winter or hardly ever get new shoes. I feel that this is a waste of my taxpayer dollars to propose legislation such as this.  Everyone should know that if a person who is on public assistance wins, they have to pay back the state period.  This legislation was proposed by someone who needs to get a life and find out what the state REALLY needs like more factories, jobs, industries and more quality education. These bozos on the hill aren't doing anything but trying to justify their positions with all of these assinine pieces of legislation that mean nothing and will go NO where! They are wasting our tax dollars!!

                            your  right  ....more people  need  to  speak  out  against  the  Bullying   of  low  income  people  ;

                            Lets Crash  FOX  news  they  hammer  everything  the  poor  do...while  expressing   love  for  big  business   and  causing  division 

                            here  in  America  US Flag   ....when  banks  steal  and  throw  people  out  on  the   street  we  dont  punish  them  hen  they  make  over  $$600

                            or  600  million  ....people  dont  know  when  their   being  played  @  were  suckers  for  the  hype  ;

                            lets  beat  up  on  the   so  called  welfare  reciepients  while ;  THE  MEDICAL/HEALTH    AND  EDUCATION  INDUSTRY  USE  65  TRILLION  DOLLARS  OF  TAX  DOLLARS  EVERY  5  YEARS Agree with stupid   LETS  GET  REAL ....OBAMA   IS  NOT  PERFECT  BUT  HE  HAS  STARTED  A   FIRE  IN  AMERICA  TO   RE-INVENT  THE  WAY  WE  THINK    AND  THE  PEOPLE  NEED  TO  DECIDED  JUST  WHO  THEY  TRUST   BEFORE  WE  ARE   ALL  LIVING  IN  THE   PROJECTSWhite Bounce

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                              Posted: April 9, 2009, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

                              I'm considered the "working poor" with an addition to playing at least 1 quick pick twice a week.  God forbid I should get laid off and have to get unemployment & welfare.  If I do and continue to play my 2 dollars a week....and the government gives me 600 out of 20 million.....I WILL BE ON THE 6:00PM NEWS....and it won't be pretty!!!!!